Depending who's available the 2 players im thinking about would start right away

You could slot both with Jack if needed
- gerbe75pts

No.

Just like Nylander, just like mitts, just like etc etc, they will be ready right away.

I'd damn neaar put my money up that whomever the Sabres pick 8th is not in the NHL this year.

Alex Tuch or Josh Anderson
- Buff36

And how are we acquiring them.

Sounds like rearranging desk chairs on teh titanic to me.

Trade Reinhart to get a center.

Need a 65-70 pt winger now. Because if trading Sam I need a inger that produces at that rate or better than Sam.

Trade a d-man + for a winger.

Need a d-man now. That is better or equal to teh D-man you just traded.

And how are we acquiring them.

Sounds like rearranging desk chairs on teh titanic to me.

Trade Reinhart to get a center.

Need a 65-70 pt winger now. Because if trading Sam I need a inger that produces at that rate or better than Sam.

Trade a d-man + for a winger.

Need a d-man now. That is better or equal to teh D-man you just traded.
- ImThatGuy

You can get the same production out of Tuch as you do Rhino for probably 1.5 to 2mill cheaper, If Rhino can get you that C why not, and go sign Dillon or DeMelo, probably be better options then Risto or Montour anyways.

You can get the same production out of Tuch as you do Rhino for probably 1.5 to 2mill cheaper, If Rhino can get you that C why not, and go sign Dillon or DeMelo, probably be better options then Risto or Montour anyways.
- Buff36

No, free agent is coming here unless it is a massive overpay.

Especially with the narrative being painted about the Peguals currently.

You can get the same production out of Tuch as you do Rhino for probably 1.5 to 2mill cheaper, If Rhino can get you that C why not, and go sign Dillon or DeMelo, probably be better options then Risto or Montour anyways.
- Buff36

one of risto or montour needs to be traded for help up front.

No, free agent is coming here unless it is a massive overpay.

Especially with the narrative being painted about the Peguals currently.
- ImThatGuy

sadly i agree

I think the team we have now is soft, slow and flawed. To get pieces we need, we need to trade pieces that will hurt us (Rob Adam to pay Paul) so I don’t see ys fixing this disaster. Eichel is gonna demand a trade next year. Radical but trade him this year and build a complete team. Now is the year to do it

Eichel, Skinner, Thompson to ANH for Zegras, #6, Henrique (they will need to shed salary) and Sam Steele

Reinhart for #10

Draft Raymond, Rossi and Lundell with our picks. Will have a top 3 pick next year. Most of the new core won’t be on team this year when we suck again. Trade Risto to Seattle with future picks to take Henrique and Okposo.

Sets us up for a future dynasty

Raymond/Cozens/Rossi
Mitts/Zegras/Kahun
Davidsson/Lundell/Aspland
Pekar/Larsson/Steele

Dahlin/Joker
Johnson/Montour
2021 1st/miller

UPL in goal

This myth has been busted already.
- TheSabresTaco

Why wouldnt sam be controlling his own line?

It's not a myth. Analytics from this past season, or from playing with ror?

No, free agent is coming here unless it is a massive overpay.

Especially with the narrative being painted about the Peguals currently.
- ImThatGuy

We don't know that, could be true and a problem but we will have to see. Even if you gave DeMelo 3.5 to 4 which will be a big pay raise for him, he still a better option than Risto and Montour.

I think the team we have now is soft, slow and flawed. To get pieces we need, we need to trade pieces that will hurt us (Rob Adam to pay Paul) so I don’t see ys fixing this disaster. Eichel is gonna demand a trade next year. Radical but trade him this year and build a complete team. Now is the year to do it

Eichel, Skinner, Thompson to ANH for Zegras, #6, Henrique (they will need to shed salary) and Sam Steele

Reinhart for #10

Draft Raymond, Rossi and Lundell with our picks. Will have a top 3 pick next year. Most of the new core won’t be on team this year when we suck again. Trade Risto to Seattle with future picks to take Henrique and Okposo.

Sets us up for a future dynasty

Raymond/Cozens/Rossi
Mitts/Zegras/Kahun
Davidsson/Lundell/Aspland
Pekar/Larsson/Steele

Dahlin/Joker
Johnson/Montour
2021 1st/miller

UPL in goal
- Fattony1187

Respectfully no.

Eichel plus for a 1st. a prospect , a cap dump center and a guy with 12 nhl goals.

Sounds familiar: 1st, tage, berglund and sobotka (53 career goals)

And how are we acquiring them.

Sounds like rearranging desk chairs on teh titanic to me.

Trade Reinhart to get a center.

Need a 65-70 pt winger now. Because if trading Sam I need a inger that produces at that rate or better than Sam.

Trade a d-man + for a winger.

Need a d-man now. That is better or equal to teh D-man you just traded.
- ImThatGuy

You do realize they literally have 4 #2RhD's, right?

Risto, Montour, Miller and Joker are all relatively redundant.
Each has different qualities, different strengths and weaknesses..but literally 4 guys for 2 slots on the 2nd & 3rd pairing. They have 2 extra, maybe 3 if Birgen could hold down the 3rd pairing.

Trading 2, even 3 would NOT be a problem.
They would still need a 1RhD even if they retained all 4.

And how are we acquiring them.

Sounds like rearranging desk chairs on teh titanic to me.

Trade Reinhart to get a center.

Need a 65-70 pt winger now. Because if trading Sam I need a inger that produces at that rate or better than Sam.

Trade a d-man + for a winger.

Need a d-man now. That is better or equal to teh D-man you just traded.
- ImThatGuy

They could trade one of Montour or Risto without losing anything. Those two are redundant. Between the one remaining plus Joker and Miller, they're fine. I think think they could even lose Miller too and play Borgen.

Making a trade package of at least one of those 2 d men (and maybe 2) plus some assorted depth picks/prospects would get them something. How good that something would be is TBD, of course. But I don't think they'd really miss the d men they traded.

Montour gets you more in terms of trade value, but trading Risto offers more cap flexibility.

My proposal would be to keep Risto (i know) and parlay some combination of Montour, Miller, Mittelstadt, picks (not 8oa unless it was a 1st round swap) and D prospects for a guy like Monahan or Cirelli.

Montour, Mitts, 1st round swap for one of those 2. I think thats a fairly attractive trade package, especially with a stagnant cap

Respectfully no.

Eichel plus for a 1st. a prospect , a cap dump center and a guy with 12 nhl goals.

Sounds familiar: 1st, tage, berglund and sobotka (53 career goals)
- Boss34

Think #6 and Zegras are a step up from pick #30 and Thompson

Just see us being Like the Islanders with Tavares for the next 6 years. Might make the playoffs once or twice with our roster as constructed then Eichel will he leaving at end of his contract if he doesn’t demand a trade sooner.

Adding a mediocre #2 Center like some propose or waiting 2-3 years for prospects to turn into something when Eichel is ready now is a disaster waiting to happen. We blew Eichel.

Murray overpaid for some trades hurting prospect pool and draft position

Botterill compounded that by then trading our roster assets for peanuts amplifying Murray’s bad moves. Miss on a couple picks by both GMs and we have a deeply flawed roster and minimal future if we don’t do something radical

Think #6 and Zegras are a step up from pick #30 and Thompson

Just see us being Like the Islanders with Tavares for the next 6 years. Might make the playoffs once or twice with our roster as constructed then Eichel will he leaving at end of his contract if he doesn’t demand a trade sooner.

Adding a mediocre #2 Center like some propose or waiting 2-3 years for prospects to turn into something when Eichel is ready now is a disaster waiting to happen. We blew Eichel.

Murray overpaid for some trades hurting prospect pool and draft position

Botterill compounded that by then trading our roster assets for peanuts amplifying Murray’s bad moves. Miss on a couple picks by both GMs and we have a deeply flawed roster and minimal future if we don’t do something radical
- Fattony1187

Making a reactionary trade of a franchise center due to the ineptitude of the two previous regimes is not the way out, imo. You will never see a positive return on Eichel. The line between success and failure in the NHL is very thin, especially when your franchise has two foundational pieces in Eichel and Dahlin. With a few shrewd moves, this is a playoff team and beyond. Depending on how good/aggressive adams is, we could see results as soon as next year

Think #6 and Zegras are a step up from pick #30 and Thompson

Just see us being Like the Islanders with Tavares for the next 6 years. Might make the playoffs once or twice with our roster as constructed then Eichel will he leaving at end of his contract if he doesn’t demand a trade sooner.

Adding a mediocre #2 Center like some propose or waiting 2-3 years for prospects to turn into something when Eichel is ready now is a disaster waiting to happen. We blew Eichel.

Murray overpaid for some trades hurting prospect pool and draft position

Botterill compounded that by then trading our roster assets for peanuts amplifying Murray’s bad moves. Miss on a couple picks by both GMs and we have a deeply flawed roster and minimal future if we don’t do something radical
- Fattony1187

I'm only moving eichel for another superstar.

We own him for 6 years, he knows that and is probably disgruntled.

If there's one guy who unquestionably goes and plays hard , its eichel. He will continue to play hard.

Sitting out eventually is a possibility, but the ball's still in the Sabres court. Maybe you tank again that year? 🤔

Think #6 and Zegras are a step up from pick #30 and Thompson

Just see us being Like the Islanders with Tavares for the next 6 years. Might make the playoffs once or twice with our roster as constructed then Eichel will he leaving at end of his contract if he doesn’t demand a trade sooner.

Adding a mediocre #2 Center like some propose or waiting 2-3 years for prospects to turn into something when Eichel is ready now is a disaster waiting to happen. We blew Eichel.

Murray overpaid for some trades hurting prospect pool and draft position

Botterill compounded that by then trading our roster assets for peanuts amplifying Murray’s bad moves. Miss on a couple picks by both GMs and we have a deeply flawed roster and minimal future if we don’t do something radical
- Fattony1187

I'm only moving eichel for another superstar.

We own him for 6 years, he knows that and is probably disgruntled.

If there's one guy who unquestionably goes and plays hard , its eichel. He will continue to play hard.

Sitting out eventually is a possibility, but the ball's still in the Sabres court. Maybe you tank again that year? 🤔

Oh so like everything the Sabres have tried before.

Jack finally has a winger who he plays well with and can put up damn near 70 points.

Sign him to a 7 year 45 Mil deal and be done with it.
- ImThatGuy

Why should you give a winger that when he's just passenger ? So lets say you have to break them up and he is just a waste then

I think the team we have now is soft, slow and flawed. To get pieces we need, we need to trade pieces that will hurt us (Rob Adam to pay Paul) so I don’t see ys fixing this disaster. Eichel is gonna demand a trade next year. Radical but trade him this year and build a complete team. Now is the year to do it

Eichel, Skinner, Thompson to ANH for Zegras, #6, Henrique (they will need to shed salary) and Sam Steele

Reinhart for #10

Draft Raymond, Rossi and Lundell with our picks. Will have a top 3 pick next year. Most of the new core won’t be on team this year when we suck again. Trade Risto to Seattle with future picks to take Henrique and Okposo.

Sets us up for a future dynasty

Raymond/Cozens/Rossi
Mitts/Zegras/Kahun
Davidsson/Lundell/Aspland
Pekar/Larsson/Steele

Dahlin/Joker
Johnson/Montour
2021 1st/miller

UPL in goal
- Fattony1187

That might be the worst trade offer I've seen for jack ..

Why should you give a winger that when he's just passenger ? So lets say you have to break them up and he is just a waste then
- gerbe75pts

Reinhart should absolutely be on the trade block if he can be part of a package to land a 2C

King's making a trade offer for Eichel:

https://www.nhltraderumor...-trade-offer-for.html?m=1


The Kings have reportedly been in touch with the Buffalo Sabres to see if there is any interest moving captain, Jack Eichel.
The Kings could offer the #2 pick, along with top-prospect and former first-rounder, Gabriel Vilardi, and also include someone like Jeff Carter to help make the money work.

- SuperCat

And Turcotte
And 2021 unprotected 1st
And Cal Petersen

They can keep Carter unless they need the Cap room

Reinhart should absolutely be on the trade block if he can be part of a package to land a 2C
- jcragcrumple

Rightfully so. .. i don't care if Sam is BFFL with Jack lets get into the playoffs

I’m with you. All the rumors out there are garbage trades for Jack. No f way. With the right players and coaching he is arguably the best player in the league. How painful would it be to watch hiM win a hart trophy with another team
- lulags

Not as bad as watching ROR win the Cup & playoff mvp
But that’s just me

I agree, Tuch and Anderson would be a better choice, but Granlund wouldn't be a bad consultation prize with the right deal.
- Buff36

What’s your “right deal” look like though?

I’d want something like 5mil for 3yrs
Too risky if he wants more $$$ or a longer deal
Idk that I’m even comfortable with 3yrs?

That might be the worst trade offer I've seen for jack ..
- gerbe75pts

Hope is Zegras and Rossi are stars and you just shedded the worst contract in NHL in the trade. Add another piece on their end if needed. Don’t think your gonna get another established superstar in trade or else why is team doing that.

Just don’t have confidence in the roster as is for the next year, our contracts are horrible and our impact prospects won’t be impacts for 2-3 years. Jack will demand a trade

Rightfully so. .. i don't care if Sam is BFFL with Jack lets get into the playoffs
- gerbe75pts

If your keeping Eichel, Sam needs to be the piece leaving to get a center imo.