James Tanner: Checking in on the Coyotes Contract Gambles

I new it!

Song sucks😁

Song sucks😁
- rrentz

that song is awesome man, I don't know what music you like, but damn!

that song is awesome man, I don't know what music you like, but damn!
- James_Tanner

Meh. It reinforces my understanding that this entire genre (I don't even know, what is it? Hip Hop or Rap?) is far inferior to those in which people actually produce the music themselves by playing instruments. I could screw around on my computer and make beats. MIGHT make me an artist, but it doesn't make me a musician. IMO.
There may be some soul in the lyrics, but there is zero in the music.

Meh. It reinforces my understanding that this entire genre (I don't even know, what is it? Hip Hop or Rap?) is far inferior to those in which people actually produce the music themselves by playing instruments. I could screw around on my computer and make beats. MIGHT make me an artist, but it doesn't make me a musician. IMO.
There may be some soul in the lyrics, but there is zero in the music.
- Tonybere

You messing around on the computer and saying you can make beats isn't the same as a musician making beats. It would be the equivalent of someone who doesn't play the drums bashing away and saying they're doing the same as a actual drummer.

The computer is the instrument, the musician part comes from mastering it to produce music. The learning curve might be a little different than a traditional instrument but the end results are the same, music.

Meh. It reinforces my understanding that this entire genre (I don't even know, what is it? Hip Hop or Rap?) is far inferior to those in which people actually produce the music themselves by playing instruments. I could screw around on my computer and make beats. MIGHT make me an artist, but it doesn't make me a musician. IMO.
There may be some soul in the lyrics, but there is zero in the music.
- Tonybere

Meh. It reinforces my understanding that this entire genre (I don't even know, what is it? Hip Hop or Rap?) is far inferior to those in which people actually produce the music themselves by playing instruments. I could screw around on my computer and make beats. MIGHT make me an artist, but it doesn't make me a musician. IMO.
There may be some soul in the lyrics, but there is zero in the music.
- Tonybere

I did not know there were any people born in the 1800s still alive.

You messing around on the computer and saying you can make beats isn't the same as a musician making beats. It would be the equivalent of someone who doesn't play the drums bashing away and saying they're doing the same as a actual drummer.

The computer is the instrument, the musician part comes from mastering it to produce music. The learning curve might be a little different than a traditional instrument but the end results are the same, music.
- 13sundin13

A lot of the big earlier producers spend hours upon hours upon hours looking for the right samples on LPs. It's a little different now though.

You messing around on the computer and saying you can make beats isn't the same as a musician making beats. It would be the equivalent of someone who doesn't play the drums bashing away and saying they're doing the same as a actual drummer.

The computer is the instrument, the musician part comes from mastering it to produce music. The learning curve might be a little different than a traditional instrument but the end results are the same, music.
- 13sundin13

I get that it's the same as producing sound from a traditional instrument. But, if there's no soul, to me it ain't music. I listened to that whole track. NO soul.

- Blackstrom2

I did clearly state IN MY OPINION, so your judgement can go away.

Meh. It reinforces my understanding that this entire genre (I don't even know, what is it? Hip Hop or Rap?) is far inferior to those in which people actually produce the music themselves by playing instruments. I could screw around on my computer and make beats. MIGHT make me an artist, but it doesn't make me a musician. IMO.
There may be some soul in the lyrics, but there is zero in the music.
- Tonybere

That wouldn't make you an artist either, it would make you a computer operator. It's not hard to program a beat. All you need to do is have a software program, specify beats per minute and quantize the samples.

Combining that beat with other instruments or sounds would require artistry.

I get that it's the same as producing sound from a traditional instrument. But, if there's no soul, to me it ain't music. I listened to that whole track. NO soul.
- Tonybere

"No soul" is subjective and while I disagree, it makes sense because everyone is different. What you were saying it that it is inferior to music created by people who play traditional instruments which didn't make sense, for the reason I stated.

"No soul" is subjective and while I disagree, it makes sense because everyone is different. What you were saying it that it is inferior to music created by people who play traditional instruments which didn't make sense, for the reason I stated.
- 13sundin13

Alright, I'll take that. I guess we see once again why making any generalizing statement is wrong.
I, personally, do not care for that music as it feels to lack soul, in my opinion.


Happy Father's day weekend to all applicable!

Meh. It reinforces my understanding that this entire genre (I don't even know, what is it? Hip Hop or Rap?) is far inferior to those in which people actually produce the music themselves by playing instruments. I could screw around on my computer and make beats. MIGHT make me an artist, but it doesn't make me a musician. IMO.
There may be some soul in the lyrics, but there is zero in the music.
- Tonybere

Song sucks 😁

Hey James, given your stance on elite players and roster construction I came across a poll the other day that I thought I’d get your take on.

Would you rather have mcdavid or for roughly the same combined cap hit mackinnon and scheifele?

Alright, I'll take that. I guess we see once again why making any generalizing statement is wrong.
I, personally, do not care for that music as it feels to lack soul, in my opinion.


Happy Father's day weekend to all applicable!
- Tonybere

Chayka’s a loser.

Hey James, given your stance on elite players and roster construction I came across a poll the other day that I thought I’d get your take on.

Would you rather have mcdavid or for roughly the same combined cap hit mackinnon and scheifele?
- RedC21

McDavid for sure

McDavid for sure
- James_Tanner

What’s you’re reasoning for that choice? I understand your argument for the top 100 players vs the rest. I’m gunna say scheifele is probably somewhere in the top 50, mcdavid at 1st and mackinnon at worst is 5th, this all depending on who you ask.

It’s not like we’re talking a significant step down from mcdavid to mackinnon so wouldn’t it be worth it to add an extra elite impact player.

For context mcdavid’s line right now is him with a mix of average wingers. Take a step down to mackinnon and replace one of those guys in your lineup with scheifele it would be more dangerous I would think.

5v5 all stats from the hockey bible natural stat trick

Cf%52 Sf%52 xgf%51 scf%52 hdcf%51

Cf%50 sf%49 xgf%50 scf%51 hdcf%51

3 years of data, no goals as they are lucky and random

Who’s the better player?

What’s you’re reasoning for that choice? I understand your argument for the top 100 players vs the rest. I’m gunna say scheifele is probably somewhere in the top 50, mcdavid at 1st and mackinnon at worst is 5th, this all depending on who you ask.

It’s not like we’re talking a significant step down from mcdavid to mackinnon so wouldn’t it be worth it to add an extra elite impact player.

For context mcdavid’s line right now is him with a mix of average wingers. Take a step down to mackinnon and replace one of those guys in your lineup with scheifele it would be more dangerous I would think.
- RedC21

My reasoning is that McDavid is the best player in the NHL, maybe one of two of the best players to enter the league since 1991. He can match up against anyone and you have an edge.

I am honestly not sure what the "correct" choice is here, but its an interesting game theory problem. I am thinking in the NHL there isn't enough of a difference between players overall to ever make it worth passing on the best player.

My reasoning is that McDavid is the best player in the NHL, maybe one of two of the best players to enter the league since 1991. He can match up against anyone and you have an edge.

I am honestly not sure what the "correct" choice is here, but its an interesting game theory problem. I am thinking in the NHL there isn't enough of a difference between players overall to ever make it worth passing on the best player.
- James_Tanner

I agree with you on mcdavid, he also has a more proven track record than mackinnon when it comes to production. But to the other side of the argument is there enough of a difference between mcdavid and mackinnon worth passing up on adding another elite impact player.

There really isn’t a wrong answer here. In the immediate I go with mackinnon/scheifele, long term I go with mcdavid due to the fact that mackinnon will require a raise over the next few years anyways.

It’s been said that that’s part of the reason they didn’t land Panarin in the off-season because they would only offer him a 4 year deal so that it would expire the same time as mackinnon.