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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

May 29 @ 10:25 AM ET
Todd Cordell: Report: New Jersey Devils eying four or five in coaching search
rmccart
Joined: 03.08.2013

May 29 @ 10:31 AM ET
Gallant
then Boudreau
no to nas
no to lav
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 29 @ 10:34 AM ET

This team needs an established and successful NHL coach.

Exactly how that happens until ownership solved the GM problem they created is a question but it must be resolved.

Frankly, firing Shero may or may not have been a stupid move but not replacing him is just further indictment that our owners are ruining this team. I mean we are last in payroll, stink, have an interim GM and Head Coach and apparently are not resolving any of these issues in a timely manner. It's embarrassing.

Gallant is the best choice.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 29 @ 10:56 AM ET
Cool breakdown of the coaches. The only argument that I would make is that it appears that Gallant has the short shelf life as opposed to Laviolette. Gallant has been fired in the third year of every team he has coached. Laviolette has lasted at least four at each of his stops and has made the Cup final with every team he has coached (with one win).

I don't profess to know what NJ needs as far as a coach goes, but that particular argument doesn't seem to hold up.
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

May 29 @ 10:59 AM ET
Cool breakdown of the coaches. The only argument that I would make is that it appears that Gallant has the short shelf life as opposed to Laviolette. Gallant has been fired in the third year of every team he has coached. Laviolette has lasted at least four at each of his stops and has made the Cup final with every team he has coached (with one win).

I don't profess to know what NJ needs as far as a coach goes, but that particular argument doesn't seem to hold up.

- Chunk


Well, Vegas was still performing well in the standings (and even better analytically) when they moved on from him. A lot of the players were pissed, too. I remember Jonathan Marchessault speaking out and saying he was far from alone but that they'd move on like they're paid to do.

Laviolette has much more of an in your face style that seems to leave a sour taste in plenty of mouths.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 29 @ 11:11 AM ET
Well, Vegas was still performing well in the standings (and even better analytically) when they moved on from him. A lot of the players were pissed, too. I remember Jonathan Marchessault speaking out and saying he was far from alone but that they'd move on like they're paid to do.

Laviolette has much more of an in your face style that seems to leave a sour taste in plenty of mouths.

- Todd.Cordell


That's weird. Were there any further details regarding why Vegas let him go?

Sorry for invading here. I just always get interested to see how and why teams pursue certain coaches over others. Needless to say, I was not impressed with the Blackhawks method. Not that I didn't think Q needed to go, that Colliton won't be a good coach someday, but the fact that they just pulled the band-aid off mid season and didn't even go with the interim tag to make him prove it a little.
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

May 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
That's weird. Were there any further details regarding why Vegas let him go?

Sorry for invading here. I just always get interested to see how and why teams pursue certain coaches over others. Needless to say, I was not impressed with the Blackhawks method. Not that I didn't think Q needed to go, that Colliton won't be a good coach someday, but the fact that they just pulled the band-aid off mid season and didn't even go with the interim tag to make him prove it a little.

- Chunk


honestly, if Malcolm Subban didn't struggle so much I think he'd have a job right now
CardiffGiant
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 04.05.2018

May 29 @ 11:29 AM ET
I agree with Bruce Boudreau. All he does is turn non-playoff teams around and get them in the playoffs. He's had really bad luck in the playoffs, but so do other coaches. Barry Trotz had the worst luck until he won a Cup with the Caps.

Right now the Devils need a coach who consistently gets them in the playoffs. When they become contenders and they flame out in the playoffs, bring in a coach like Laviolette.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 29 @ 11:37 AM ET
I agree with Bruce Boudreau. All he does is turn non-playoff teams around and get them in the playoffs. He's had really bad luck in the playoffs, but so do other coaches. Barry Trotz had the worst luck until he won a Cup with the Caps.

Right now the Devils need a coach who consistently gets them in the playoffs. When they become contenders and they flame out in the playoffs, bring in a coach like Laviolette.

- CardiffGiant



I miss having bad luck in the playoffs. It hurts but it's better then being a non-completive team....

Clearly I don't know what really went on but every time Gallant has been fired it has seemed like he got totally Richarded.
Devils622
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.31.2006

May 29 @ 11:41 AM ET
Friedman says "The wrinkle here is that Fitzgerald did the initial interviews, and will any of them want him as their boss should they be choice?" I've heard only passive things about Fitzgerald. Why wouldn't coaches want to work for him?
Devils622
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.31.2006

May 29 @ 11:42 AM ET
This team needs an established and successful NHL coach.

Exactly how that happens until ownership solved the GM problem they created is a question but it must be resolved.

Frankly, firing Shero may or may not have been a stupid move but not replacing him is just further indictment that our owners are ruining this team. I mean we are last in payroll, stink, have an interim GM and Head Coach and apparently are not resolving any of these issues in a timely manner. It's embarrassing.

Gallant is the best choice.

- Queenie_5_hole



Can't agree more.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 29 @ 11:48 AM ET
Cool breakdown of the coaches. The only argument that I would make is that it appears that Gallant has the short shelf life as opposed to Laviolette. Gallant has been fired in the third year of every team he has coached. Laviolette has lasted at least four at each of his stops and has made the Cup final with every team he has coached (with one win).

I don't profess to know what NJ needs as far as a coach goes, but that particular argument doesn't seem to hold up.

- Chunk


Laviolette is a one trick pony that likes to play a high pressure 3 man press forecheck. If you don't have the horses, and right now NJ doesn't, you don't want him as your coach. Give him the talent and he can produce.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 29 @ 11:50 AM ET
BB makes every team instantly better... Lord how I wish we never got rid of him and went back to the Carlyle... In a list of Bad Murray moves... That one is far and away the worst ever.
farooge
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.25.2006

May 29 @ 12:41 PM ET
I've got Boudreau > Gallant > Laviolette with a big preference for Boudreau. I completely agree with your assessment of Lavy.
LAkings96
Los Angeles Kings
Location: La Verne, CA
Joined: 12.15.2012

May 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
Who ever gets hired should hire Stevens as an assistant and let him run the defense and PK. He was a great assistant for the Kings and was known more of a players coach. I think he would be a solid assistant for either GG, Pete or BB.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

May 29 @ 2:28 PM ET
Todd, I don't know if its fair to characterize Lavy as a veterans coach. Giroux, Voracheck, Forsberg, Fiala all had breakout seasons under him. Yeah he was dealing with more veteran rosters in general, but he didn't seem to have a problem integrating young players into the lineup. And maybe the team needs someone with a more in your face style. The worst part of opening the season the way we did was no one seemed bothered by it. Not saying Lavy is my first choice, but I'd still be happy if he ends up as the next coach.
RussH1964
New Jersey Devils
Location: Manville, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2017

May 29 @ 3:03 PM ET
In looking at Laviolettte,Gallant & Bouedreau the resume I like that stands out the most is Laviolette so just based on experience and the fact he actually won the Stanley Cup once as well he would be my top interview. As far as his in the face method and whether it would be a good match I guess you never know how that could pan out but maybe this team needs 100% accountabilty with their coach. I love Gallant and would certainly not mind but agree with others that 3 year curse hanging on him is a little hard to figure out especially remembering the manner in which he was fired by Florida. Im sure Vegas players loved him but then again why was he let go?On Boudreau for all the years he has coached there has been only 1 deep run into playoffs and alot of one and dones....Nas has done a decent job dont get me wrong but I think its clear this organization needs an experienced guy to lead this wave of talented players into the future. On Stevens if his first name was Scott ok but John...no thanks!
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

May 29 @ 3:31 PM ET
Friedman says "The wrinkle here is that Fitzgerald did the initial interviews, and will any of them want him as their boss should they be choice?" I've heard only passive things about Fitzgerald. Why wouldn't coaches want to work for him?
- Devils622

I interpret that as follows. Does the new signed coach feel comfortable with an interim GM who could get fired tomorrow and the new GM want to bring in "their guy" to coach or the new coach hates the new GM hire. The hang-up is the interim title.
Devils622
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.31.2006

May 29 @ 3:53 PM ET
I interpret that as follows. Does the new signed coach feel comfortable with an interim GM who could get fired tomorrow and the new GM want to bring in "their guy" to coach or the new coach hates the new GM hire. The hang-up is the interim title.
- redmonsters



I had a feeling that is what he meant but something got lost in translation. NJ needs to decide on a GM (I like Fitzgerald) before interviewing coaches. I hope the owners knows what they are doing.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

May 29 @ 3:59 PM ET
Stevens is an absolute dud. Idk why we could even look at him. He's an assistant and I think it stays there. Lav is a decent coach, but I agree, not for our sof.... kind-hearted young players. Mayyybe they need a Lav? I'm not sure. Gallant is the guy and the owners NEED to throw the kitchen sink at him and hope it hits him hard enough to choose us over other teams- which I don't even remember what teams would be looking at a coach?? Chicago?

is Bruce really my #2? over Lav? I just think Boudreau would be hilarious. He's so over the top it cracks me up. Plus, as has been mentioned, he helps turn teams around.. tho I feel they eventually get sick of him and how he is.
I often set myself up to be disappointed when I get set on something that I think is the most obvious best move for the team. I'm trying to look at other coaches so I can feel not as upset and blame-game when Gallant isn't signed.
OfManNotMachine
New Jersey Devils
Location: PA
Joined: 05.29.2020

May 29 @ 5:43 PM ET
Bruce Boudreau is a complete and utter joke.
He failed with a high end talent Capitals team, and has had failure everywhere else he went. He literally admitted IN THE MIDDLE OF A PLAYOFF SERIES after a game that he lost that he was being out coached and had NO ANSWER for it! What kinda of message do you think that sent to his players? Having great winning records during the season doesn't mean much when you flame out in the first round of the playoffs everytime

I lost all respect for that guy as a coach, how he even got a job in the NHL after that is beyond me.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

May 29 @ 7:00 PM ET
Bruce Boudreau is a complete and utter joke.
He failed with a high end talent Capitals team, and has had failure everywhere else he went. He literally admitted IN THE MIDDLE OF A PLAYOFF SERIES after a game that he lost that he was being out coached and had NO ANSWER for it! What kinda of message do you think that sent to his players? Having great winning records during the season doesn't mean much when you flame out in the first round of the playoffs everytime

I lost all respect for that guy as a coach, how he even got a job in the NHL after that is beyond me.

- OfManNotMachine


dang what game was that?
cu45161
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.26.2016

May 30 @ 3:16 PM ET
Sean Day on waivers cant be worse then muller than again.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 30 @ 4:49 PM ET
Todd, I don't know if its fair to characterize Lavy as a veterans coach. Giroux, Voracheck, Forsberg, Fiala all had breakout seasons under him. Yeah he was dealing with more veteran rosters in general, but he didn't seem to have a problem integrating young players into the lineup. And maybe the team needs someone with a more in your face style. The worst part of opening the season the way we did was no one seemed bothered by it. Not saying Lavy is my first choice, but I'd still be happy if he ends up as the next coach.
- rmdevil313

This is a good take
OfManNotMachine
New Jersey Devils
Location: PA
Joined: 05.29.2020

May 30 @ 6:00 PM ET
dang what game was that?
- MartysBetter88


It happened when he was with the Ducks. I'll look on YouTube and see if I can find press conference later today when I have time.

They got destroyed in a game and he said something along the lines of I have no answer for how we are being outplayed and being out coached. My jaw hit the floor. I would have fired that guy as soon as that press conference was over. Was it true? Sure probably... But as a coach you don't go out there and admit that!

All the regular season success in the world doesn't mean much if you can't get outta the first round of the playoffs.
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