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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

May 22 @ 9:45 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Likely playoff format has the Penguins playing... Likely playoff format has the Penguins playing...
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

May 22 @ 10:14 AM ET
How the pups doing without any ice time? It's killing me...and I'm an adult.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 22 @ 10:54 AM ET
Two questions:

1. If the Penguins win the Cup this year, is it legit win?

2. If the Pens lose out to Montreal in the play-in round, is the Stanley Cup winner legit?
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

May 22 @ 10:55 AM ET
Will the draft format be made in conjunction with this decision?
Za Warudo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.20.2019

May 22 @ 10:59 AM ET
Well, we’ve got to be sure that the players are safe from the disease that 99.99% of healthy people under 50 recover from....
simethos
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.02.2007

May 22 @ 11:07 AM ET
Well, we’ve got to be sure that the players are safe from the disease that 99.99% of healthy people under 50 recover from....


Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 22 @ 11:26 AM ET
Two questions:

1. If the Penguins win the Cup this year, is it legit win?

2. If the Pens lose out to Montreal in the play-in round, is the Stanley Cup winner legit?

- jmatchett383


There should be no question of legitimacy. We've seen half seasons and they played roughly 70 this year.

The "excuses" people will throw around is the rust. Logic would say all teams will have rust, which they will, but some can storm out of the gate and some can't. I brought this up in the last thread, but every season there's a handful of a mediocre teams that race to the top of the standings only to start collapsing come the 1/4 mark of the season and vice-versa with stronger teams.

If there is a season there will probably be some tough pills to swallow as far as upsets go.
Za Warudo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.20.2019

May 22 @ 11:26 AM ET

- simethos


Don’t you have a church to be burning down somewhere?
simethos
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.02.2007

May 22 @ 11:33 AM ET
Don’t you have a church to be burning down somewhere?
- Za Warudo


Hey man, you're the one making unnecessary comments. I just rolled my eyes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 22 @ 11:39 AM ET
Don’t you have a church to be burning down somewhere?
- Za Warudo


99.99% of people under 50 don't burn down churches.

And recovery is one thing. Having an entire team/multiple teams physically unable to play due to sickness is another. Also, many teams have coaches, trainers, physicians, and equipment managers, etc. That are well beyond 50.
cnatch
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 07.02.2018

May 22 @ 12:26 PM ET
Well, we’ve got to be sure that the players are safe from the disease that 99.99% of healthy people under 50 recover from....
- Za Warudo


You are human garbage. Delete yourself.

abcpens10
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.21.2018

May 22 @ 1:46 PM ET
The format works for me, with the exception of not re-seeding after the preliminary round. You can put all the East teams in 1 place and re-seed. I guess if they are going to put half the west teams in a eastern hub, it wouldn't work, but that just seems to over-complicate things.

Also, if they are talking different formats, just seed teams by league standings Point %. Penguins vs Flyers Stanley Cup Final, Oilers vs Flames Stanley Cup, Let's Go!!!
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

May 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
The format works for me, with the exception of not re-seeding after the preliminary round. You can put all the East teams in 1 place and re-seed. I guess if they are going to put half the west teams in a eastern hub, it wouldn't work, but that just seems to over-complicate things.

Also, if they are talking different formats, just seed teams by league standings Point %. Penguins vs Flyers Stanley Cup Final, Oilers vs Flames Stanley Cup, Let's Go!!!

- abcpens10

Yeah I don't love the reseeding either, mainly because I wanted to only worry about one of Tampa and Boston.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

May 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
Two questions:

1. If the Penguins win the Cup this year, is it legit win?

2. If the Pens lose out to Montreal in the play-in round, is the Stanley Cup winner legit?

- jmatchett383



1. Yes

2. Yes


How about if Philly wins the cup?... They have a great chance if this goes ahead.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 22 @ 4:26 PM ET
1. Yes

2. Yes


How about if Philly wins the cup?... They have a great chance if this goes ahead.

- MattStrat


No matter who wins, they'll have to beat 3 teams in a best-of-7 series. Back in the Original 6 days, they only had to win 2. So to me, while it's not the usual format, it's still a legit win.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

May 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
No matter who wins, they'll have to beat 3 teams in a best-of-7 series. Back in the Original 6 days, they only had to win 2. So to me, while it's not the usual format, it's still a legit win.
- jmatchett383

Isn't it 4 teams plus the teams in play-in have to beat a 5th opponent? Or do I have that wrong?

For a play-off tournament, it maybe a different team comes out on top than would, but whoever gets through it will have earned it. Even more so if it's not one of the teams with a buy.
Ben_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.12.2008

May 22 @ 5:09 PM ET
There should be no question of legitimacy. We've seen half seasons and they played roughly 70 this year.

The "excuses" people will throw around is the rust. Logic would say all teams will have rust, which they will, but some can storm out of the gate and some can't. I brought this up in the last thread, but every season there's a handful of a mediocre teams that race to the top of the standings only to start collapsing come the 1/4 mark of the season and vice-versa with stronger teams.

If there is a season there will probably be some tough pills to swallow as far as upsets go.

- Rinosaur


I think the Swedes players will have an advantage.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

May 22 @ 7:02 PM ET
No matter who wins, they'll have to beat 3 teams in a best-of-7 series. Back in the Original 6 days, they only had to win 2. So to me, while it's not the usual format, it's still a legit win.
- jmatchett383


Great point... Further enforces my belief that this, if it happens, will be a legit cup win.
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

May 22 @ 7:27 PM ET
Winning 5 series to win the cup(if the team is below top 4) clearly makes this as legitimate or.more than any half season played in the past. This will be the hardest fought for Stanley Cup ever. Rust, alternate format, no fans, unusual living situations(which includes family issues for.some, diet and training issues). There is no.question that a team awarded a championship this year will have earned it and we should consider ourselves fortunate to witness this.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 22 @ 8:49 PM ET
Hey dude. hope youre well. I'm like three phones gone since I last really was around these parts. Hope yourself and the family have been holding up okay, relatively speaking. I do still have the same number though if you want to drop me a line.


to answer your question in the most difficult way possible. 90 percent legitimate to each. Ha!
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 22 @ 9:10 PM ET
Two questions:

1. If the Penguins win the Cup this year, is it legit win?

2. If the Pens lose out to Montreal in the play-in round, is the Stanley Cup winner legit?

- jmatchett383


1: Yes

2: No
Yonk1216
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Scranton, PA
Joined: 02.24.2011

May 22 @ 10:39 PM ET
How does giving the top 4 teams a "bye" but making them play each other for 3 games give them any advantage whatsoever??

I can't imagine playing against the physicality Boston and Washington and then the speed and scoring depth of TB before potentially getting the Pens in round 2 is very appetizing for a Flyers fan.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

May 23 @ 8:15 AM ET
How does giving the top 4 teams a "bye" but making them play each other for 3 games give them any advantage whatsoever??

I can't imagine playing against the physicality Boston and Washington and then the speed and scoring depth of TB before potentially getting the Pens in round 2 is very appetizing for a Flyers fan.

- Yonk1216


Great point..but something could also be said for tuning your game against that kinda competition too...
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 23 @ 8:55 AM ET
Nice to have a reason to get back on here!

Anyways, if you want to get down to brass tacks about the format itself, I don’t think it’s the best overall. I think the play in round should of been for the wild card spots, so the four teams currently occupying the wild card spots and the next four in. Then it’s business as usual. I don’t like the fact that we’re not in a wild card spot and still have to play a play in. But the league decided to prioritize inclusivity to account for the jockeying that happens down the stretch, so this is what it is. Although if we must have a 24 team playoff I would have preferred the NBA format of conference seeding with 1 playing 12 and so on.

But all that is just semantics. We’re (probably) getting hockey back, and that’s all that matters!
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 23 @ 11:37 AM ET
How does giving the top 4 teams a "bye" but making them play each other for 3 games give them any advantage whatsoever??

I can't imagine playing against the physicality Boston and Washington and then the speed and scoring depth of TB before potentially getting the Pens in round 2 is very appetizing for a Flyers fan.


I’m actually good with it. In fact, I prefer it.

Let’s say the Pens win and we face them. They now at least have their skates back under them a little. They’re not warmed back up all the way, but still much more than we are. Philly will have still been on a whole 2-3 month wait. They’ll be stone cold coming out of the gates!

Now the seeding rounds will at the very least allow you to knock a little rust off. You don’t have to worry too much on the result. You can just focus on playing hockey again.

Think how often decent teams drop one or two in their openers. We cannot afford that if our first games are against the Penguins (nor anyone else) when you’re just tossed straight in to a tournament.

I’d want everyone to start playing at the same time, otherwise it wouldn’t surprise me in the least that round 2 was chock full of upsets.

The Pens will have the most to gain out of Round 1 byes if we had to sit on our hands for an extra few days. We would have the least to gain.

Think about it. We would have been 4th ANYWAYS without the home ice playoff series in rounds 1. We can ONLY go up.