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Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

May 18 @ 1:53 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Predicting Ryan Pulock's contract
Hell_Bent
New York Islanders
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NY
Joined: 05.06.2019

May 18 @ 8:21 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Predicting Ryan Pulock's contract
- Ben Shelley



6yrs @ $5.5m per


anything more is NOT worth it
Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

May 18 @ 9:35 PM ET
6yrs @ $5.5m per


anything more is NOT worth it

- Hell_Bent


While I'd love to see that, I don't think the Isles are getting that deal. I could see that price on a four-year deal but I think a six-year deal is definitely past the $6M mark.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 19 @ 6:21 AM ET
While I'd love to see that, I don't think the Isles are getting that deal. I could see that price on a four-year deal but I think a six-year deal is definitely past the $6M mark.
- Ben Shelley


How about we negotiate and take 5.5 for 5 years.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 19 @ 8:26 AM ET
6yrs @ $5.5m per


anything more is NOT worth it

- Hell_Bent

He is one of if not our best defenseman. If we get him signed for 5.5 for 6yrs that’s a great deal for us. Not sure how you can say anything more than that is not worth it? Don’t agree but I hope you’re right I would be pretty happy with 5.5.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 19 @ 10:14 AM ET
He is one of if not our best defenseman. If we get him signed for 5.5 for 6yrs that’s a great deal for us. Not sure how you can say anything more than that is not worth it? Don’t agree but I hope you’re right I would be pretty happy with 5.5.
- Cptmjl

Nope, not even worth double-Komarov
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

May 19 @ 12:16 PM ET
There's no pictures of him in Jets sheets so he can go back home to Manitoba, right?

I kid, but I can see 7 years @ 6.5
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 19 @ 12:18 PM ET
There's no pictures of him in Jets sheets so he can go back home to Manitoba, right?

I kid, but I can see 7 years @ 6.5

- ChonDerry

I think we're safe on this one

https://twitter.com/rpulo...status/352483191547895809
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 19 @ 12:54 PM ET
Nope, not even worth double-Komarov
- eichiefs9

Double-Komarov to me is frightening.
Hell_Bent
New York Islanders
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NY
Joined: 05.06.2019

May 19 @ 1:18 PM ET
He is one of if not our best defenseman. If we get him signed for 5.5 for 6yrs that’s a great deal for us. Not sure how you can say anything more than that is not worth it? Don’t agree but I hope you’re right I would be pretty happy with 5.5.
- Cptmjl



This may be unpopular opinion but just bc he's our best defenseman, doesnt mean he needs to be paid as a top dman. I like Pulock a lot, but in a salary cap era, have to be sure on who to pay at what price.

Its just my opinion

to clarify a bit more, I just dont think Pulock would be a top 2 dman on another team in NHL, more like a 3-4 on most
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 19 @ 3:04 PM ET
This may be unpopular opinion but just bc he's our best defenseman, doesnt mean he needs to be paid as a top dman. I like Pulock a lot, but in a salary cap era, have to be sure on who to pay at what price.

Its just my opinion

to clarify a bit more, I just dont think Pulock would be a top 2 dman on another team in NHL, more like a 3-4 on most

- Hell_Bent

I’m all about paying these guys as little as possible but I disagree with how he compares to other players around the NHL. I also don’t agree where he would rank on other teams on the NHL. There are quite a few teams he would be their best defenseman. Are there better D men in the league? Yeah there are but with that said young, mobile, defenseman with his shot (go ahead 7 insert comment here), that are good defensively aren’t a dime a dozen. He may get as much as 7 imo. I hope he doesn’t but I think 5.5 is a steal for him. Just my opinion.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 19 @ 3:11 PM ET
This may be unpopular opinion but just bc he's our best defenseman, doesnt mean he needs to be paid as a top dman. I like Pulock a lot, but in a salary cap era, have to be sure on who to pay at what price.

Its just my opinion

to clarify a bit more, I just dont think Pulock would be a top 2 dman on another team in NHL, more like a 3-4 on most

- Hell_Bent

Sure, but top defenseman in this league that have signed deals in the last 1-3 years are making pretty close to, or over, $9M-$10M in nearly every case. I don't think there's a single person that believes that Pulock is going to even sniff that much money
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

May 19 @ 3:23 PM ET
I’m all about paying these guys as little as possible but I disagree with how he compares to other players around the NHL. I also don’t agree where he would rank on other teams on the NHL. There are quite a few teams he would be their best defenseman. Are there better D men in the league? Yeah there are but with that said young, mobile, defenseman with his shot (go ahead 7 insert comment here), that are good defensively aren’t a dime a dozen. He may get as much as 7 imo. I hope he doesn’t but I think 5.5 is a steal for him. Just my opinion.
- Cptmjl

7 is busy organizing Uber drivers, so he asked me to remind you that it's 105 MPH......and never on goal.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

May 19 @ 3:25 PM ET
Sure, but top defenseman in this league that have signed deals in the last 1-3 years are making pretty close to, or over, $9M-$10M in nearly every case. I don't think there's a single person that believes that Pulock is going to even sniff that much money
- eichiefs9

But Pulock is an RFA, not a UFA. Even though he's arbitration-eligible, he's got a whole lot less leverage than those guys signing for $9-10 MM, right? Or were those guys you're referring to RFAs too?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 19 @ 3:31 PM ET
But Pulock is an RFA, not a UFA. Even though he's arbitration-eligible, he's got a whole lot less leverage than those guys signing for $9-10 MM, right? Or were those guys you're referring to RFAs too?
- JohnScammo

He referred to "being paid like a top defenseman", so I'm not necessarily too concerned with the expiry status of their contract, in regards to this particular conversation.

But if we want to bring that into the mix, Seth Jones would be a good measuring stick. He is both a top defenseman in the league and signed his current deal when he was an RFA in the summer of 2016. Four years ago he signed a deal with a $5.4M cap hit, so I don't think $5.5M should be the "absolute max" that Pulock should be making. I don't think that number is too far off what he'll actually get, but I also don't think that it should be anyone's hard-ceiling as to what he's worth.