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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Apr 7 @ 7:52 PM ET
Jeremy Laura: Would Yzerman consider Strome? Rebuilds during the rebuild
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Apr 7 @ 9:05 PM ET
Drysdale at #4 is a bad pick. Wouldn't touch him until at least #7 or 8.
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Apr 7 @ 11:59 PM ET
People thought the same about Quinn Hughes. Now he's looking like the family's best pro. D-men that control play are what teams are searching for. Drysdale goes top five.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Apr 8 @ 12:02 AM ET
Strome? For what? gonna hafta offer him a contract, think he would settle for $2M A year for 2 yrs? Maybe then he would be worth it. Give them the Caps 2nd rounder for him.
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Apr 8 @ 12:07 AM ET
Strome? For what? gonna hafta offer him a contract, think he would settle for $2M A year for 2 yrs? Maybe then he would be worth it. Give them the Caps 2nd rounder for him.
- HenryHockey


The writer just said he’d be available at a low cost. Bag of pucks in, bag of pucks out type deal?
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Apr 8 @ 12:08 AM ET
People thought the same about Quinn Hughes. Now he's looking like the family's best pro. D-men that control play are what teams are searching for. Drysdale goes top five.
- Hardbalz


I think Puljuljarvi has helped adjust the “peer pressure”. You really need to take the player you want. If you can’t trade down, take them where you are at.
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Apr 8 @ 12:10 AM ET
Strome? For what? gonna hafta offer him a contract, think he would settle for $2M A year for 2 yrs? Maybe then he would be worth it. Give them the Caps 2nd rounder for him.
- HenryHockey


As for the $, ya it’s going to have to be a lower “prove it” deal for that kid.
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Apr 8 @ 1:09 AM ET
Drysdale at #4 is a bad pick. Wouldn't touch him until at least #7 or 8.
- Kooleus


I think it’ll depend on need/want. If Yzerman or whomever really wants that player and can’t trade down, he’ll go higher.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Apr 8 @ 1:13 AM ET
I be disappointed if the HAWKS part ways with Strome after last year .He had some injury troubles ,and his line mate Debrincat struggled with inconsistent play . Both I feel are due for a rebound next year . I did like the return Perlini brought back ,I think Regula will be a player after a breakout year in London .So if you can come up with a nice return maybe Tufte Stan may give him up .What ya say .
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Apr 8 @ 1:16 AM ET
I be disappointed if the HAWKS part ways with Strome after last year .He had some injury troubles ,and his line mate Debrincat struggled with inconsistent play . Both I feel are due for a rebound next year . I did like the return Perlini brought back ,I think Regula will be a player after a breakout year in London .So if you can come up with a nice return maybe Tufte Stan may give him up .What ya say .
- oldduffman

oops sorry was looking at the wrong prospects list ..
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Apr 8 @ 1:36 AM ET
People thought the same about Quinn Hughes. Now he's looking like the family's best pro. D-men that control play are what teams are searching for. Drysdale goes top five.
- Hardbalz


Not me. I thought passing on Hughes was insane. Drysdale isnt at that level in my opinion. Hughes holds his own defensively with excellent positioning and an active stick. Drysdale stands around watching the puck and getting beat often. Still a great prospect. But not at #4 when you'll have a couple of stud centres on the board.
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Apr 8 @ 7:53 AM ET
Looking at all NHL forwards with at least 70 GP in the last two seasons, Dylan Strome is 85th in overall PPG (all situations) and 35th in points/60 at 5-on-5. (For reference, Strome has 2.28 5-on-5 p/60 in the last two years, compared to 1.97 for Bertuzzi, 1.93 for Mantha, and 1.87 for Larkin) The defensive analytics on him last time I checked were also quite good.

Plus he’s only 23, which means that while he probably isn’t going to get a ton better, he also should continue to be good for quite a while yet. He’s actually younger than any of the Red Wings’ current top trio of forwards.

If the Blackhawks are considering giving him up for a song (which would surprise me) then absolutely Yzerman should be involved.

I think it’s incorrect to put this kind of potential deal in the same category as the ones for Fabbri and Perlini. (Actually I don’t think those two really belong in the same category with each other, but that’s another argument.) Strome is a much better player than Fabbri and massively superior to Perlini.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Apr 8 @ 10:44 AM ET
Looking at all NHL forwards with at least 70 GP in the last two seasons, Dylan Strome is 85th in overall PPG (all situations) and 35th in points/60 at 5-on-5. (For reference, Strome has 2.28 5-on-5 p/60 in the last two years, compared to 1.97 for Bertuzzi, 1.93 for Mantha, and 1.87 for Larkin) The defensive analytics on him last time I checked were also quite good.

Plus he’s only 23, which means that while he probably isn’t going to get a ton better, he also should continue to be good for quite a while yet. He’s actually younger than any of the Red Wings’ current top trio of forwards.

If the Blackhawks are considering giving him up for a song (which would surprise me) then absolutely Yzerman should be involved.

I think it’s incorrect to put this kind of potential deal in the same category as the ones for Fabbri and Perlini. (Actually I don’t think those two really belong in the same category with each other, but that’s another argument.) Strome is a much better player than Fabbri and massively superior to Perlini.

- Sven22


I was thinking he would be an excellent addition as well after doing more research. I have my doubts that he can be had for a "bags of pucks".
I still think the $2M per season for 2 yrs would be a fair deal for both sides in going forward.
Manthamania
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ST Clair Shores, MI
Joined: 02.14.2017

Apr 8 @ 11:17 AM ET
He’d be a good addition to a team that is lacking depth at the C position. I noticed CHI was juggling lines all the time and for some, it doesn’t work.

Make it happen Stevie Y...
Tee56
Joined: 10.02.2017

Apr 8 @ 11:39 AM ET
Strome 6’-3” at center and Martha on the wing at 6’-5” is a start to a nice size forward line. Find the other wing and it might work. Fabbri is not a top six, he filled a void this year.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Apr 8 @ 12:15 PM ET
Strome 6’-3” at center and Martha on the wing at 6’-5” is a start to a nice size forward line. Find the other wing and it might work. Fabbri is not a top six, he filled a void this year.
- Tee56


Finally. You seem like the only other person I know who thinks Fabbri is a zero. This is a classic case of a guy who couldn't fill a top 6 role for any other NHL team, but stumbled into a perfect situation in Detroit where the talent was so awful he could succeed. In any other organization he'd fall into a bottom 6 role, where he'd fail, and slide out of the NHL. As the Wings improve, Fabbri will slide down and then fail.

I'm hoping Yzerman does not commit any term for him. If it was me, I qualify Fabbri for 1-year. He can fill the void again, put up some points, and then I flip him at the deadline as a playoff rental.
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Apr 8 @ 12:45 PM ET
I was thinking he would be an excellent addition as well after doing more research. I have my doubts that he can be had for a "bags of pucks".
I still think the $2M per season for 2 yrs would be a fair deal for both sides in going forward.

- HenryHockey


I think $2 million per would be a steal. The Hawks gave DeBrincat $6.4 million per year for 3 years and I think you can easily argue that Strome is of similar caliber.
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Apr 8 @ 1:04 PM ET
Finally. You seem like the only other person I know who thinks Fabbri is a zero. This is a classic case of a guy who couldn't fill a top 6 role for any other NHL team, but stumbled into a perfect situation in Detroit where the talent was so awful he could succeed. In any other organization he'd fall into a bottom 6 role, where he'd fail, and slide out of the NHL. As the Wings improve, Fabbri will slide down and then fail.

I'm hoping Yzerman does not commit any term for him. If it was me, I qualify Fabbri for 1-year. He can fill the void again, put up some points, and then I flip him at the deadline as a playoff rental.

- Kooleus


I agree with you that a short term deal and trade at the deadline would be a good plan for Fabbri. I would not want him on a long term deal either. Let him pad his stats and then sell high.

I do think saying he's a "zero" or that he wouldn't be a top 6 on any other NHL team is unfair though. I think he's pretty clearly a middle six forward -- not a guy you want to depend on as a key part of your offense, but a guy who can fill in on a scoring line for a medium-term assignment without looking completely lost. His offensive production at 5-on-5 over his career is very consistent with what you'd expect out of a fairly crappy second liner or a fairly productive third liner.

The Red Wings used Darren Helm in that kind of middle six role more or less adequately for several years (including when they weren't terrible). Fabbri's better offensively than Helm ever was, although I think Helm more than made up for it in the defensive end.