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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Mar 24 @ 11:32 PM ET
Jan Levine: Thoughts on Lias Andersson, Pavel Buchnevich and Filip Chytil Using Larry Brooks' column as a bridging off point
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Mar 25 @ 12:54 AM ET
Currently the Rangers are utilizing 46 out of their allowed 50 max contracts. Andersson may have to be moved in a trade depending how the off-season progresses if only to take one of those valuable slots.
Its a shame , really, but I don't think he can just walk back into our locker room. We will never know the entire story, but I don't think he returns. He needs a fresh start somewhere else.
Maybe he is part of the package to Ottawa if we move Smith there.

Hope everyone is healthy and safe!
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 25 @ 9:28 AM ET
Ever since Buch got over his sulking and babyness he’s been great. It was probably confidence and a little bit of growing up that he needed to do

I went from wanting him traded to not wanting him traded pretty quickly
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 25 @ 9:30 AM ET
Andersson will never play a game for the Rangers.

Buch I wouldn't mind him staying as long as his salary is kept low, but wouldn't have an issue if he was traded in a package for something more. He is just too inconsistent to be a #1 winger.

Chytil worked his ass off this year coming back from the Pack. Need to keep grooming him to be the #2. Hopefully he is doing a lot of practice at the dot. Kid has a ton of skill, is now battling in the dirty areas and is tougher on the puck. And he is still only 20 years old.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 25 @ 9:30 AM ET
Currently the Rangers are utilizing 46 out of their allowed 50 max contracts. Andersson may have to be moved in a trade depending how the off-season progresses if only to take one of those valuable slots.
Its a shame , really, but I don't think he can just walk back into our locker room. We will never know the entire story, but I don't think he returns. He needs a fresh start somewhere else.
Maybe he is part of the package to Ottawa if we move Smith there.

Hope everyone is healthy and safe!

- TommyGTrain


I wonder whether the organization and the team have the same view of Lias as (most of) the fans do. It is easy to sour on the kid after all that went on this past season when you have never been in the same room with him or had a conversation.
Honestly, at his age I don't put a lot more thought into his tumultuous season than I would in that of any young prospect who didn't play with the parent club. Of course, more was expected of him than of a 20 year old who never had a sniff, but I don't see why he could never be a part of the team again if his recovery continues and skills progress.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 25 @ 10:00 AM ET
I agree tones.

I’m not ready to wash my hands (pun intended) of Lias just yet these kids all have growing up moments and or growing pains. His are way worse then most, but growing pains nonetheless
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 25 @ 10:03 AM ET
I agree tones.

I’m not ready to wash my hands (pun intended) of Lias just yet these kids all have growing up moments and or growing pains. His are way worse then most, but growing pains nonetheless

- Slimtj100


I think the comments/allegations he made against the organization were the nail in the coffin. imo
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 25 @ 10:08 AM ET
I think the comments/allegations he made against the organization were the nail in the coffin. imo
- mdw7413


Hey, they reached and selected the kid somewhat above his ranking based on his fiery spirit. Then they are to kick him to the curb for the same attribute?
I think we can all agree that despite his recent failings, the club and the coaches did not give him the best chance to succeed either.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 25 @ 10:29 AM ET
Hey, they reached and selected the kid somewhat above his ranking based on his fiery spirit. Then they are to kick him to the curb for the same attribute?
I think we can all agree that despite his recent failings, the club and the coaches did not give him the best chance to succeed either.

- Tonybere

Saying the organization "abused you" is way beyond a fiery spirit.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 25 @ 10:34 AM ET
Saying the organization "abused you" is way beyond a fiery spirit.
- mdw7413


Fair point.
And I don't like the way any of it went down. But, keep in mind that we don't know a damn thing. It was all third hand reports and speculation. The only thing we heard 1st hand was JD saying he reached out and got no response. Which was bullpoop on Andersson's part, for sure. But, we know nothing about how he got to that point. Actually, less than nothing. Because the fans went bananas and wrote the kid off as a selfish, lazy punk on nothing but gossip and rumour, with no hesitation to think maybe there was more to it.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:34 AM ET
Saying the organization "abused you" is way beyond a fiery spirit.
- mdw7413

In some organizations, saying they abused you is considered the holy spirit

This doesn't really make sense but you get the general direction I'm going
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 25 @ 10:37 AM ET
Fair point.
And I don't like the way any of it went down. But, keep in mind that we don't know a damn thing. It was all third hand reports and speculation. The only thing we heard 1st hand was JD saying he reached out and got no response. Which was bullpoop on Andersson's part, for sure. But, we know nothing about how he got to that point. Actually, less than nothing. Because the fans went bananas and wrote the kid off as a selfish, lazy punk on nothing but gossip and rumour, with no hesitation to think maybe there was more to it.

- Tonybere

Yeah, you are right none of us know. I was just going by his words and saying the cryptic thing about more coming out. If that wasn't alleged by him, I could see the Rangers working with him in whatever he was going through. I think he might have crossed a line by saying that.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 25 @ 10:37 AM ET
In some organizations, saying they abused you is considered the holy spirit

This doesn't really make sense but you get the general direction I'm going

- eichiefs9

Were you an alter boy?
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
I think the comments/allegations he made against the organization were the nail in the coffin. imo
- mdw7413

I understand all that. But he was a 7th overall pick. You can’t just throw that away for peanuts. It’s pointless to trade him for a 4th rd or 5th pick, that’s the problem. The return isnt worth just dumping him off. Give him at least one more camp, after that and he doesn’t improve, then yea good riddance
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:39 AM ET
Were you an alter boy?
- mdw7413

Is that a euphemism for someone who transitions?
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 25 @ 10:41 AM ET
Is that a euphemism for someone who transitions?
- eichiefs9



Either way, a fair question!
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 25 @ 10:43 AM ET
Is that a euphemism for someone who transitions?
- eichiefs9



(frank) you
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
I understand all that. But he was a 7th overall pick. You can’t just throw that away for peanuts. It’s pointless to trade him for a 4th rd or 5th pick, that’s the problem. The return isnt worth just dumping him off. Give him at least one more camp, after that and he doesn’t improve, then yea good riddance
- Slimtj100

Well again, its not the improvement, his play, etc. I think that can be worked through. He made a pretty serious allegation against the Rangers, which as far as I know, no player has ever made against the Rangers. I don't know how that just gets sweeped under the rug. imo
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:59 AM ET


(frank) you

- mdw7413

The coronavirus is starting to break my brain
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
Well again, its not the improvement, his play, etc. I think that can be worked through. He made a pretty serious allegation against the Rangers, which as far as I know, no player has ever made against the Rangers. I don't know how that just gets sweeped under the rug. imo
- mdw7413

He’s a kid too. Kids nowadays are pompous entitled pieces of poop haha.

I get all youre saying, at that time I was eff him and buh bye too. But now I’d hate to see him flourish somewhere else and we have a forever minor leaguer for him
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
The coronavirus is starting to break my brain
- eichiefs9

Its great I don't have to dodge missiles when taking the dog out. We have no sidewalks.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 25 @ 11:09 AM ET
He’s a kid too. Kids nowadays are pompous entitled pieces of poop haha.

I get all youre saying, at that time I was eff him and buh bye too. But now I’d hate to see him flourish somewhere else and we have a forever minor leaguer for him

- Slimtj100

I think there would have to be some closed door apologies, etc. and maybe even a public one from Andersson to clear the air. I think people could easily forgive him if he just came out and said something like "I was playing injured, I thought I wasn't getting a fair chance and I was a teenager far from my home. I made some remarks when I was really down that I shouldn't have made."
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Mar 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
Fair point.
And I don't like the way any of it went down. But, keep in mind that we don't know a damn thing. It was all third hand reports and speculation. The only thing we heard 1st hand was JD saying he reached out and got no response. Which was bullpoop on Andersson's part, for sure. But, we know nothing about how he got to that point. Actually, less than nothing. Because the fans went bananas and wrote the kid off as a selfish, lazy punk on nothing but gossip and rumour, with no hesitation to think maybe there was more to it.

- Tonybere

Still torn on Lias. His throwing the silver led us to see him as a fierce competitor that wouldn't accept anything less than first, maybe even future Captain. His subsequent behavior makes me think he lacks maturity and seems to have that entitled mentality.
Hope I'm wrong and he ends up becoming a key part of this team. ADA had some issues that seem to have been resolved, maybe Lias can too.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 25 @ 11:24 AM ET
Still torn on Lias. His throwing the silver led us to see him as a fierce competitor that wouldn't accept anything less than first, maybe even future Captain. His subsequent behavior makes me think he lacks maturity and seems to have that entitled mentality.
Hope I'm wrong and he ends up becoming a key part of this team. ADA had some issues that seem to have been resolved, maybe Lias can too.

- Fenrir


Good point on Deangelo. Takes time for players to develop and part of development is maturity. As a person, not even a player. It’s to soon to give up on him

I can pretty much guarantee Coyotes wish they would’ve been more patient with Tony D
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 25 @ 11:33 AM ET
Its great I don't have to dodge missiles when taking the dog out. We have no sidewalks.
- mdw7413

Perfect. You should try walking the dog along the highway.
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