Doesn't mean he will get that and if he does, you have to look who gives it to him. Anybody good doesn't have that kind of money laying around.
- rpeters01

Boston does, they can fit him in next year even with Backes salary, and definitely have the space in 2020-21

Bowman does not need to make moves. He needs to sell smart if there is a trading partner and the trade makes long term sense.
Keith is in total control with his NMC.
There may not be much of a market for either rental goalie. It would also send a message to the team. I am ok with him trading either or both goalies in the right deal. If we keep them and neither are resigned we get something, $11 mil in cap space.
- -Doh-

LMAO. Even if he trades one of or boththe goalies, he still gets cap space. The argument is meaningless. Two high quality proven goalies, BOTH heading to UFA, one at least should be moved and I promise you someone will give up something at least halfway decent for either. Get something now for them AND STILL have the Cap space.

I wonder if this is the development of the coming Stanclub narrative after he does nothing at the TDL and still loses both to UFA, we can all celebrate how brilliantly Stan "added cap space", with nary a word about a potential prospect or pick that could be added to the mix.

If Stan buys he fails.
If he does nothing he fails.
If he does some solid, under the radar type moves (I am opposed to a total blow up of the roster), clears out a veteran or two (including a goalie), adds prospects/picks then I have more confidence in him leading the way.

Boston does, they can fit him in next year even with Backes salary, and definitely have the space in 2020-21
- LAHawk

Kane and Toews started at $12.5, settled at $10.5, Stamkos asked $12.0, agreed at $8.5. Boston is not stupid, time will tell but I don't equate "ask" to "get."

Kane and Toews started at $12.5, settled at $10.5, Stamkos asked $12.0, agreed at $8.5. Boston is not stupid, time will tell but I don't equate "ask" to "get."
- rpeters01

They want Kreider, they made 2 deals last year at the TDL for Coyle and Johanson, Kreider would be a rental, they can have Saad next year also and then figure out his salary demands and what they will do. The Bruins window is now, just like the Hawks were when we got Vermette for a #1

Bowman gets a lot more credit for losing Panarin than finding him. He did too good of a job and found a player so good he cost too much.
- rpeters01

A problem with signing European players is that they’re generally older when they come here and hit free agency - and UFA - quicker.

The one guy I am afraid the Hawks will trade is Carpenter. He is a solid 200' player, kills penalties, wins faceoffs, can play up and down the lineup in a pinch (though more suited for the 3rd or 4th line), can play center or wing, plays physical, is a smart player, and is only making $1 mil for two more years after this year. If I am a playoff team that wants to solidify my 4th line or PK he is the kind of guy I would go after. I am not sure what teams will offer for him, but I bet Stan gets some calls. If they offer a 3rd round pick, he may have to listen. If they offer a 2nd it is a no brainer. If they offer a 4th I hope Stan says no.
- -Doh-

As soon as we trade Carpenter, we will be looking for another Carpenter, and you’re not going to find one for $1M, unless you are blown out of the water with an offer, he stays.

Bring in a competent coach before selling all the team assets would be my vote

They want Kreider, they made 2 deals last year at the TDL for Coyle and Johanson, Kreider would be a rental, they can have Saad next year also and then figure out his salary demands and what they will do. The Bruins window is now, just like the Hawks were when we got Vermette for a #1
- LAHawk

A Boston #1 is almost worthless.

Why? Because Rocky and upper management would rather not see their season ticket base shrink even more that's why. Ole' Jimmy C. would be doing his anthem schtick in front of 10k next season if Kane wasn't there.
- Rota's Rooter

You nailed it. Rockys more concerned about his short term money stream than the teams long term goal .

Well ultimately he will find himself looking back saying to himself he should have just bit the bullet .

LMAO. Even if he trades one of or boththe goalies, he still gets cap space. The argument is meaningless. Two high quality proven goalies, BOTH heading to UFA, one at least should be moved and I promise you someone will give up something at least halfway decent for either. Get something now for them AND STILL have the Cap space.

I wonder if this is the development of the coming Stanclub narrative after he does nothing at the TDL and still loses both to UFA, we can all celebrate how brilliantly Stan "added cap space", with nary a word about a potential prospect or pick that could be added to the mix.

If Stan buys he fails.
If he does nothing he fails.
If he does some solid, under the radar type moves (I am opposed to a total blow up of the roster), clears out a veteran or two (including a goalie), adds prospects/picks then I have more confidence in him leading the way.
- kwolf68

Option number 3 you mentioned is exactly the smart move that IMO we all can get behind.

But depending upon how Chicago finds itself after the draft , IMO JC while he may be a good coach in the AHL he hasn't really proven in the 2 years now with a upgraded roster compared to last year and a full training camp he is the right guy for the job. Especially if Chicago isn't in a full rebuild but looking to not only make the playoffs but to go deep.


The core players are another year older and another year wasted .

Bring in a competent coach before selling all the team assets would be my vote
- PatShart

C'mon down Gerard Gallant.

how many rebuilds has Stan shown he can accomplish. Stan was handed a young talented , deep team. More than not his trades , resignings and draft choices have been a negative .

Stan created his own nightmare with Chicago's salary cap situation knowing full well it would hurt this teams ability to compete after 2015.

I keep hearing the excuse when you win you don't get The value of high prospects , that's not 100% true cat , saad as examples where late round picks. Picking first doesn't guarantee that player either will be a game changer , strome, Nylander mediocre at best.

It's just time for change , Stans worn out his welcome IMO.
His Crap shoot projects , nyla dear, strome , koekkoek haven't turned out that great.
- Taylorst1

C'mon down Gerard Gallant.
- Tyler Cameron

Just joining in the fun TC or do you know something we don't?

You nailed it. Rockys more concerned about his short term money stream than the teams long term goal .

Well ultimately he will find himself looking back saying to himself he should have just bit the bullet .
- Taylorst1

Rocky's more concerned with moving on from his father's legacy of being a cheap SOB. Remember how down this franchise was at the time of Dollar Bills death. They had sold off all of this town's favorite players. What was once a proud organization was in the crapper. Rocky built it back up and he should be applauded for it. Hockey has grown substantially in this town since Rocky took over.

You don't keep that momentum by selling everyone. (See Roenick, J. Belfour, E. Amonte, T. etc) Full rebuilds are just as much of a crapshoot in hockey as retools. Listen to offers and take ones that don't create other holes. if you believe in someone in the AHL or in College, sell from that position. Otherwise, try to get to the playoffs and do the best you can.

- Ogilthorpe2

Just joining in the fun TC or do you know something we don't?
- Rota's Rooter

Joining in on the fun. I don't have any info on that but he would be my choice.

Just a FYI. If a trade is made with retained salary, it cannot be only for the year the trade was made. The salary is retained for every year for the length of the contract which would affect the Hawks cap situation going forward.
- boilermaker100

Chicago can take on expiring contracts or even retain a fraction of the salary and still be ok next year cap wise.

He may be terrible. But we have the cap room and we may get and additional asset with him. And if we trade Gus and Maatta he would only be playing the last month. He could be a 7th defender if we move Gus and Maatta. Keep Gilbert playing the rest of the year at his level in the Rock.

Buffalo can suspend him and his $5.14 will come off of the cap. But they cannot terminate him without his agreement. If he reports to the AHL $4.14 mil goes against their cap. I do not see him walking way from about $1.6 mil (prorated last 22 games of his contract). https://buffalonews.com/2...chester-amerks-news-2020/
- -Doh-

He has already refused to report. They are terminating his contract. Buffalo is going nowhere. Why would they give up anything to get a contract off their cap that will be off when the season is over?

C'mon down Gerard Gallant.
- Tyler Cameron

His shelf life seems to be two years?

You would move Strome for just this year's first? You'd think the hawks would be able to get a lot more than that. Why would anyone accept a deal for just 1 first considering the trades that have gone down?
- lemieux_66

The 1st is where I would start. The conversation ends when Buffalo hangs up the phone unless their GM is a complete moron. The Sabres shouldn't trading their 1st.

To Chicago-Johnson, Asplund and a 2nd or 3rd
To Buffalo- Strome
- Buff36

If you aren't putting a 1st in there, you aren't getting him.

Rocky's more concerned with moving on from his father's legacy of being a cheap SOB. Remember how down this franchise was at the time of Dollar Bills death. They had sold off all of this town's favorite players. What w


as once a proud organization was in the crapper. Rocky built it back up and he should be applauded for it. Hockey has grown substantially in this town since Rocky took over.

You don't keep that momentum by selling everyone. (See Roenick, J. Belfour, E. Amonte, T. etc) Full rebuilds are just as much of a crapshoot in hockey as retools. Listen to offers and take ones that don't create other holes. if you believe in someone in the AHL or in College, sell from that position. Otherwise, try to get to the playoffs and do the best you can.
- CanOCorn

I agree with you that Rocky has been laser focused on trying to rebuild the teams reputation, I also agree Rocky should ve applauded for the turn around and his contribution to making hockey exciting and getting more kids involved.

The problem Chicago has is a aging core locked in for 3 and 4 more years , a lack of young talent, no cap space to utilize to help retool Chicago in any meaningful way in order to not waste another year of toews and Kanes careers .

I remember when Chicago jettisoned all those guys and just like many other Chicago fans where deeply upset, because they where all still young and very close to making a serious run .

Joining in on the fun. I don't have any info on that but he would be my choice.
- Tyler Cameron

Hey TC. What about Gallant makes him your choice? I personally have never understood all the love this guy gets. He's been fired in the third season of all three coaching opportunities he's gotten, and has made noise once in the PO's (all others either missed or lost in first round).

While I haven't done any in depth analysis of his systems, his teams pride themselves on a strong forecheck and puck pursuit. The same things that this current team has been trying to do an failing at. Are we going to be able to drastically alter the make-up of this team, and if so, why wouldn't Colliton be able to get the team to do the same things that Gallant theoretically would?

LMAO. Even if he trades one of or boththe goalies, he still gets cap space. The argument is meaningless. Two high quality proven goalies, BOTH heading to UFA, one at least should be moved and I promise you someone will give up something at least halfway decent for either. Get something now for them AND STILL have the Cap space.

I wonder if this is the development of the coming Stanclub narrative after he does nothing at the TDL and still loses both to UFA, we can all celebrate how brilliantly Stan "added cap space", with nary a word about a potential prospect or pick that could be added to the mix.

If Stan buys he fails.
If he does nothing he fails.
If he does some solid, under the radar type moves (I am opposed to a total blow up of the roster), clears out a veteran or two (including a goalie), adds prospects/picks then I have more confidence in him leading the way.
- kwolf68

Whichever goalie the Hawks think won't be back, they need to move at the deadline. If they aren't going to resign Gus, move him at the deadline. I am not in the "trade saad" camp, but if the return for him is a legitimate top prospect and a 1st round pick, I hope they consider.

Joining in on the fun. I don't have any info on that but he would be my choice.
- Tyler Cameron

Peter Laviolette would be my choice