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hockeybocc
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 09.09.2014

Feb 14 @ 1:32 PM ET
Since it wasn't mentioned, lets not forget that Shero got Palmieri for peanuts.....
Thehpot
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 02.14.2020

Feb 14 @ 1:37 PM ET
Since it wasn't mentioned, lets not forget that Shero got Palmieri for peanuts.....
- hockeybocc


This is true. I forget that was him.

I hate arguing with other fans. But i wasnt the biggest Shero fan to begin with - and him taking forever to fire Hynes was the last straw for me.

I don’t agree with firing him when they fired him. But I thought he had to go. The rebuild didn’t work with him.
hockeybocc
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 09.09.2014

Feb 14 @ 1:42 PM ET
This is true. I forget that was him.

I hate arguing with other fans. But i wasnt the biggest Shero fan to begin with - and him taking forever to fire Hynes was the last straw for me.

I don’t agree with firing him when they fired him. But I thought he had to go. The rebuild didn’t work with him.

- Thehpot


Totally agree. Despite the lack of success that he had, I was still a bit surprised they fired him when they did. As you mentioned, I think the combination of the Hynes extension, along with his unwillingness to fire him (when every person close to the team knew the locker room was lost) was the last straw for ownership as well.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Feb 14 @ 2:05 PM ET
Totally agree. Despite the lack of success that he had, I was still a bit surprised they fired him when they did. As you mentioned, I think the combination of the Hynes extension, along with his unwillingness to fire him (when every person close to the team knew the locker room was lost) was the last straw for ownership as well.
- hockeybocc



I have to agree with this also. The Hynes extension was awful and then the slow-mo firing just snuffed out any hope of a turn around. AND THEN picking Nasreddine to be the interim coach felt like a giant F.U. to everyone for making him fire Hynes; because Nas had such a long history with Hynes and Nas's D was arguably more of a problem then the offense.

HOWEVER: I also felt like ownership could have stepped in and said to Ray not to offer any or a big extension to Hynes when the team sucked ass AND could have told Ray Ray that he had to move faster on getting rid of Hynes and pick a legit head coach: WHICH really should have been done if they wanted to have any shot at keeping Taylor Hall. Although it seems Hall was pretty sure he was moving on and Shero was pretty sure he was moving him.

Considering how much ownership clearly loved Hall, it could have been better for them to get involved earlier and in a productive manner. Firing Shero after the season turns into a train wreck and not installing a real GM or Head Coach is not a recipe for success.

Marty Brodeur is a heartbeat away from running this organization. I love him, but he could be the next Garth Snow.
Thehpot
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 02.14.2020

Feb 14 @ 2:13 PM ET
I have to agree with this also. The Hynes extension was awful and then the slow-mo firing just snuffed out any hope of a turn around. AND THEN picking Nasreddine to be the interim coach felt like a giant F.U. to everyone for making him fire Hynes; because Nas had such a long history with Hynes and Nas's D was arguably more of a problem then the offense.
HOWEVER: I also felt like ownership could have stepped in and said to Ray not to offer any or a big extension to Hynes when the team sucked ass AND could have told Ray Ray that he had to move faster on getting rid of Hynes and pick a legit head coach: WHICH really should have been done if they wanted to have any shot at keeping Taylor Hall. Although it seems Hall was pretty sure he was moving on and Shero was pretty sure he was moving him.

Considering how much ownership clearly loved Hall, it could have been better for them to get involved earlier and in a productive manner. Firing Shero after the season turns into a train wreck and not installing a real GM or Head Coach is not a recipe for success.

Marty Brodeur is a heartbeat away from running this organization. I love him, but he could be the next Garth Snow.

- Queenie_5_hole


Hey we agree on something! I’m not saying ownership is blameless in this at all. But we’re 5 years into a rebuild. And with what to show for it? Another top 5 pick?

I don’t agree on the timing of the firing. But who knows what happened in the office to have it go down the way it did. I’m just thankful they didn’t plug someone in just for the sake of having someone. The season is lost anyway.

As for the data regarding drafts - from the hockey writers website - the devils are 17th in prospect pool rankings. The vast majority of teams below them are perennial playoff teams/cup contenders. After 5 years - not having a top 10 or even top 5 farm system is inexcusable.

In addition - they rank Merkley and Bahl as two of the top 5 prospects in the system and they just got here. The Hall trade could be a success down the road. But when it was considered an underwhelming return and the two guys in the deal are now considered top 5 prospects - that’s a problem.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Feb 14 @ 7:06 PM ET
Hey we agree on something! I’m not saying ownership is blameless in this at all. But we’re 5 years into a rebuild. And with what to show for it? Another top 5 pick?

I don’t agree on the timing of the firing. But who knows what happened in the office to have it go down the way it did. I’m just thankful they didn’t plug someone in just for the sake of having someone. The season is lost anyway.

As for the data regarding drafts - from the hockey writers website - the devils are 17th in prospect pool rankings. The vast majority of teams below them are perennial playoff teams/cup contenders. After 5 years - not having a top 10 or even top 5 farm system is inexcusable.

In addition - they rank Merkley and Bahl as two of the top 5 prospects in the system and they just got here. The Hall trade could be a success down the road. But when it was considered an underwhelming return and the two guys in the deal are now considered top 5 prospects - that’s a problem.

- Thehpot



Well it’s nice to find some common ground.

In the end we all just want the franchise to do better. I think it’s frustrating for everyone.
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