LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Guerin going full tank. - manvanfan
Boeser for Dumba straight up.
#enterthejkuzzi lol |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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LE isn't going anywhere. Boston was able to bury Backes, Islanders were able to bury Ladd, yet everyone thinks that LE MUST be traded. We have 2 more years to deal with his cap hit, it sucks, but it is what it is. Getting rid of futures to rid yourselves of mistakes is dumb. - Codes1087
I think the more important contract to get rid of is đ» đ§. You could move that (with a mid pick) for an expiring contract to the right team. LA, Anaheim, NJ, someone could use him next season. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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LE isn't going anywhere. Boston was able to bury Backes, Islanders were able to bury Ladd, yet everyone thinks that LE MUST be traded. We have 2 more years to deal with his cap hit, it sucks, but it is what it is. Getting rid of futures to rid yourselves of mistakes is dumb. - Codes1087
Canucks gave up their first round pick in the Miller trade. Unless two prospects take massive jumps in the summer. I wouldn't want to give up another first or other picks and prospects to get rid of him.
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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But imagine our systems with Greener, Bouds and Gallsey game planning - 1970vintage
What does Doug Jarvis do? Can Bruce just have his job? |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Boeser for Dumba straight up.
#enterthejkuzzi lol - LordHumungous
It's not the worst idea ever.
I wouldn't do it though. |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: âWho are we to think weâre anybody?â - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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What does Doug Jarvis do? Can Bruce just have his job? - manvanfan
What does John Weisbrod do? |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Canucks gave up their first round pick in the Miller trade. Unless two prospects take massive jumps in the summer. I wouldn't want to give up another first or other picks and prospects to get rid of him. - manvanfan
no point in doing anything other than putting him on waivers and sending him to Utica. Get him away from that locker room and the kids. Eat his 6 mill in salary for the next 2 seasons after this and let him freeze down in NY. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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so essentially the farm to take on Benning's contract mistake in LE - Codes1087
Woo RHD is expendable for RHD Dumba
Hoglander is the key piece
Lockwood needs the opportunity
LE becomes a cheap contract with the Wild having the cap to absorb him.
Schaller is a 1yr cap dump
I wouldnât say the farm given our depth of prospects. Pod Madden OJ Rafferty Lind MDP Rathbone are still left. That said the pieces could change. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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What does John Weisbrod do? - VanHockeyGuy
He goes scouting with Benning. Benning is a genius. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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no point in doing anything other than putting him on waivers and sending him to Utica. Get him away from that locker room and the kids. Eat his 6 mill in salary for the next 2 seasons after this and let him freeze down in NY. - Codes1087
I'd put him on waivers next season as well unless someone wants his cap hit to reach the floor. To which I wouldn't pay more than a 4th round pick to get rid of him.
Callahan type trade. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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If we trade I want a hockey trade not moving picks. We need prospects to continue to develop but we can afford to make a splash only if the cap gets some relief for us. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Woo RHD is expendable for RHD Dumba
Hoglander is the key piece
Lockwood needs the opportunity
LE becomes a cheap contract with the Wild having the cap to absorb him.
Schaller is a 1yr cap dump
I wouldnât say the farm given our depth of prospects. Pod Madden OJ Rafferty Lind MDP Rathbone are still left. That said the pieces could change. - Nighthawk
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we dont trade for 25 year old Dumba, we let Woo (6 years younger) develop, and we don't lose a A-chip prospect in Hoglander and Benning learns from his mistakes in the LE signing and doesn't do it again.
Rafferty cost nothing, is 1 year younger, having an absolutely killer rookie pro season, and deserves a call up. We have shipped out too many 1st/2nd/3rd round picks in the last decade, we finally have a decent prospect cupboard, why revert back to that mentality. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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If we trade I want a hockey trade not moving picks. We need prospects to continue to develop but we can afford to make a splash only if the cap gets some relief for us. - Nighthawk
Bogo waived.
Johnsson out for 8 weeks. Hutchison clears.
Jay Bo surgery probably out for season.
Some trades are going to happen soon. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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we dont trade for 25 year old Dumba, we let Woo (6 years younger) develop, and we don't lose a A-chip prospect in Hoglander and Benning learns from his mistakes in the LE signing and doesn't do it again.
Rafferty cost nothing, is 1 year younger, having an absolutely killer rookie pro season, and deserves a call up. We have shipped out too many 1st/2nd/3rd round picks in the last decade, we finally have a decent prospect cupboard, why revert back to that mentality. - Codes1087
Stand pat is fine. 25 isnât very old for a D locked up for 4/6m. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Bogo waived.
Johnsson out for 8 weeks. Hutchison clears.
Jay Bo surgery probably out for season.
Some trades are going to happen soon. - manvanfan
You know it |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Stand pat is fine. 25 isnât very old for a D locked up for 6m. - Nighthawk
Hughes is 19
Makar is 20
Weresnki is 22
25 isn't old by any means, but the impact of young defenseman has never been higher in the league.
and the issue with the above is the amount we already have committed to our D.
Myers - 6 mill (4 more)
Edler - 6 mill (1 more)
Tanev - 4.5 (plus whatever he will get if we re-sign)
Hughes - will not be cheap
Benn - 2 mill (one more)
Dumba - 6 mill (3 more)
you want to have 20 million locked up for our 4D next year in Myers/Edler/Benn/Dumba? |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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we dont trade for 25 year old Dumba, we let Woo (6 years younger) develop, and we don't lose a A-chip prospect in Hoglander and Benning learns from his mistakes in the LE signing and doesn't do it again.
Rafferty cost nothing, is 1 year younger, having an absolutely killer rookie pro season, and deserves a call up. We have shipped out too many 1st/2nd/3rd round picks in the last decade, we finally have a decent prospect cupboard, why revert back to that mentality. - Codes1087
Columbus lost basically their 3 best players last season for free and were probably a better team this year.
Sometimes you just have to have faith in the growth of some marinated players. |
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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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we dont trade for 25 year old Dumba, we let Woo (6 years younger) develop, and we don't lose a A-chip prospect in Hoglander and Benning learns from his mistakes in the LE signing and doesn't do it again.
Rafferty cost nothing, is 1 year younger, having an absolutely killer rookie pro season, and deserves a call up. We have shipped out too many 1st/2nd/3rd round picks in the last decade, we finally have a decent prospect cupboard, why revert back to that mentality. - Codes1087
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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- NewYorkNuck
Jkuzzi and his bath-salt-Dumba-ranting has crept into the minds of posters now |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Hughes is 19
Makar is 20
Weresnki is 22
25 isn't old by any means, but the impact of young defenseman has never been higher in the league.
and the issue with the above is the amount we already have committed to our D.
Myers - 6 mill (4 more)
Edler - 6 mill (1 more)
Tanev - 4.5 (plus whatever he will get if we re-sign)
Hughes - will not be cheap
Benn - 2 mill (one more)
Dumba - 6 mill (3 more)
you want to have 20 million locked up for our 4D next year in Myers/Edler/Benn/Dumba? - Codes1087
I like scoring from D. Benn is gone in a year or tradeable now or later. 18mil Iâm good with & Tanev is at most 5-5.5mil if we resign him. Thatâs my offer.
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Jkuzzi and his bath-salt-Dumba-ranting has crept into the minds of posters now - Codes1087
Get on board or get left behind
Just kidding. |
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I think its going to be tougher than that though.
You have to have a big contingency for next summer, as Hughes and Petey wont come cheap, at all.
UFA's they will look to re-sign are probably:
Virtanen, Gaudette, MacEwen, Bailey (given what he has shown), Tanev, Stecher, Brisebois, Markstrom, Leivo,.
Maybe's: Fantenburg, Motte, Graovac
Gone: Schaller
that 19 million isn't very much when you should probably allow yourself, at minimum, 12 million in open space next summer to sign Quinn and Petey. (just guessing to the figure) - Codes1087
The keys to me are Markstrom and EP40. Work on Marky first, hopefully a four year deal between $5 - $5.6MM. Go a little higher if it means being allowed to expose him in the expansion draft...gives a year to further evaluate Demko.
I believe Petey can sign offer sheets so best to lock him up early. Hughes is in the same position as Brock so at the end of he day, Canucks have a significant amount of leverage (no arb rights and no offer sheets). Ideally they lock him up long term.
The others should be fairly simple an cheap, with the exception of Virt and Tanev. Three year bridge for Jake would be best (show he can continue to improve - and not just when playing with Petey/Miller) and shoot for a home town discount with Tanev (if that does not happen, love the player but time to let him walk).
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Hughes is 19
Makar is 20
Weresnki is 22
25 isn't old by any means, but the impact of young defenseman has never been higher in the league.
and the issue with the above is the amount we already have committed to our D.
Myers - 6 mill (4 more)
Edler - 6 mill (1 more)
Tanev - 4.5 (plus whatever he will get if we re-sign)
Hughes - will not be cheap
Benn - 2 mill (one more)
Dumba - 6 mill (3 more)
you want to have 20 million locked up for our 4D next year in Myers/Edler/Benn/Dumba? - Codes1087
Agree, hard no on Dumba
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: âWho are we to think weâre anybody?â - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Obviously it's best to stay out of the Dumba bidding sh1t show. Especially with the $ this teams going to be spending. I really don't think JB will do anything significant at the TDL. The summer/draft may be a different story though. |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Obviously it's best to stay out of the Dumba bidding sh1t show. Especially with the $ this teams going to be spending. I really don't think JB will do anything significant at the TDL. The summer/draft may be a different story though. - VanHockeyGuy
Dumba really isnât special. Such an odd target |
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