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BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Feb 13 @ 4:08 PM ET
Helle deserves 95% of the credit for us at least having a shot at the playoffs this year.

There is no evidence or way of knowing if any coach could do any worse than Maurice.

- Ross77


There is plenty of evidence that Maurice runs terrible systems.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 13 @ 4:12 PM ET
There is plenty of evidence that Maurice runs terrible systems.
- BWJumper

Yes that was my point, I don’t see how any other coach could be worse.
Maybe I worded it wrong
Wesley Peters
Location: Niverville, MB
Joined: 12.05.2019

Feb 13 @ 7:37 PM ET
Stanley Cup winning goalies SV%:

2019 STL Binnington .914
2018 Wash Holtby .922
2017 Pitt Murray .937
2017 Pitt Fleury .924
2016 Pitt Murray .923
2015 Chi Crawford .924
2014 LA Quick .911
2013 Chi Crawford .932
2012 LA Quick .946
2011 Bos Thomas .940

Don't see any subpar .900 or below SV% winning the cup.

EDIT: That is the playoff SV% in the playoff year they won.

- CharlieDog


Another good list. Cheers.
Wesley Peters
Location: Niverville, MB
Joined: 12.05.2019

Feb 13 @ 8:25 PM ET
pardon?

not sure I follow you? I am pointing out things Maurice Does now and what I expect to continue. if you disagree I welcome your opinion, its a blog have fun.

- Ross77


Since you're so polite, I'm happy to disagree with you.

Here is what you wrote:

"With Maurice being extended here’s what we can expect,

-Shiefele will never be called out for not back checking or lazy play
-connor will never be called out for team worst zone exits and horrible defensive play
-Ehlers will never play top line or top pp
-wheeler will continue to be the other teams best penalty killer against our pp as he holds the puck and does nothing
-systems will never be changed and injuries and personal will continue to be excuses for poor play
-pk will continue to be leagues worst
-vets will never be blammed or held accountable, blame will always goto kids
-assistant coaches who have done nothing will go nowhere

Bright future we have"

Scheifele is a lazy player? I disagree. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 8 years at 6.125 schmill.

Connor is worst at zone exits and bad at defense? I disagree. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 7 years at 7.14 schmill.

You prefer Ehlers on the top line over Connor and Laine? I disagree. As far as the 1st PP goes, Ehlers disagrees, having passed at the opportunity to join it because he preferred working the half wall. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 7 years at 6 schmill.

You think Wheeler is a poor choice for his position on the powerplay? I disagree. And, I'm happy he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 5 years at 8.25 schmill.

How much do you know about systems of play in hockey?

Is the Jets PK the league's worst?

Does the Jets organization do a lot of blaming? Can you cite examples?

You think the assistant coaches do nothing? What makes you think so? Why do you think they will go nowhere?
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Feb 13 @ 9:05 PM ET
Since you're so polite, I'm happy to disagree with you.

Here is what you wrote:

"With Maurice being extended here’s what we can expect,

-Shiefele will never be called out for not back checking or lazy play
-connor will never be called out for team worst zone exits and horrible defensive play
-Ehlers will never play top line or top pp
-wheeler will continue to be the other teams best penalty killer against our pp as he holds the puck and does nothing
-systems will never be changed and injuries and personal will continue to be excuses for poor play
-pk will continue to be leagues worst
-vets will never be blammed or held accountable, blame will always goto kids
-assistant coaches who have done nothing will go nowhere

Bright future we have"

Scheifele is a lazy player? I disagree. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 8 years at 6.125 schmill.

Connor is worst at zone exits and bad at defense? I disagree. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 7 years at 7.14 schmill.

You prefer Ehlers on the top line over Connor and Laine? I disagree. As far as the 1st PP goes, Ehlers disagrees, having passed at the opportunity to join it because he preferred working the half wall. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 7 years at 6 schmill.

You think Wheeler is a poor choice for his position on the powerplay? I disagree. And, I'm happy he wanted resign in Winnipeg for 5 years at 8.25 schmill.

How much do you know about systems of play in hockey?

Is the Jets PK the league's worst?

Does the Jets organization do a lot of blaming? Can you cite examples?

You think the assistant coaches do nothing? What makes you think so? Why do you think they will go nowhere?

- Wesley Peters


How about potentially missing the playoffs, are you happy about that?

Sorry I couldn't resist
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 13 @ 9:19 PM ET
Wes, I am not sure the posters here are quite used to the more interactive writer blogger /poster experience.

Not being critical and not sayig its bad or anything, but just saying the online masses never experienced the interative writer previously, lol. Iam saying this laughing to myself.
Wesley Peters
Location: Niverville, MB
Joined: 12.05.2019

Feb 13 @ 9:42 PM ET
How about potentially missing the playoffs, are you happy about that?

Sorry I couldn't resist

- BWJumper


How about it? For a bubble team, I guess 50% chance is an accurate guess for probability.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 13 @ 9:44 PM ET
Wes, I am not sure the posters here are quite used to the more interactive writer blogger /poster experience.

Not being critical and not sayig its bad or anything, but just saying the online masses never experienced the interative writer previously, lol. Iam saying this laughing to myself.

- CharlieDog


I am fine with it . Go ahead and engage Wesley. Makes our blog even more interesting .
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 13 @ 9:55 PM ET
How about it? For a bubble team, I guess 50% chance is an accurate guess for probability.
- Wesley Peters

Hey Wesley as long as you are a happy guy, that's all that matters. Happiness is very hard to attain and all you need is players signing in Winnipeg to make you happy than so be it.

I say forget about th numbers, stats, and wins/losses. All that matters is that people are happy!
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 13 @ 9:57 PM ET
How about potentially missing the playoffs, are you happy about that?

Sorry I couldn't resist

- BWJumper


Really BW. Considering the complete series of unfortunate events that have befallen the Jets since last season, most hockey analysts are shocked that we are even still in the hunt.

I demonstrated in an early blog that (with Buff included) the Jets by far have the most man-games lost to injury this year. Very rarely does a team in the top three most injured lists make the playoffs. Both the Jets and the Pens could become exceptions to that rule. I personally applaud the effort by them this year considering the bad luck they have had. Leafs, Hurricanes, Preds, Panthers, Sharks.....all talented teams with limited injuries and all may fall short of the playoffs....what is their excuse ?
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Feb 13 @ 10:55 PM ET
Really BW. Considering the complete series of unfortunate events that have befallen the Jets since last season, most hockey analysts are shocked that we are even still in the hunt.

I demonstrated in an early blog that (with Buff included) the Jets by far have the most man-games lost to injury this year. Very rarely does a team in the top three most injured lists make the playoffs. Both the Jets and the Pens could become exceptions to that rule. I personally applaud the effort by them this year considering the bad luck they have had. Leafs, Hurricanes, Preds, Panthers, Sharks.....all talented teams with limited injuries and all may fall short of the playoffs....what is their excuse ?

- jetsnation


I was making a joke at wesley's happy post. So relax Jetsnation

But since you asked Leafs 26th GAA, Preds 25th, Panthers 29th, Sharks 28th see a pattern?
As for the Hurricanes they are on pace for 1 point less than they had last year.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 14 @ 7:22 AM ET
I am fine with it . Go ahead and engage Wesley. Makes our blog even more interesting .
- jetsnation


I am fine as well. Everyone has their own writing style and personality, so its ok with me.

Engage Wesley!
Wesley Peters
Location: Niverville, MB
Joined: 12.05.2019

Feb 14 @ 8:21 AM ET
I am fine with it . Go ahead and engage Wesley. Makes our blog even more interesting .
- jetsnation


Cheers Jets Nation!
Wesley Peters
Location: Niverville, MB
Joined: 12.05.2019

Feb 14 @ 8:22 AM ET
Really BW. Considering the complete series of unfortunate events that have befallen the Jets since last season, most hockey analysts are shocked that we are even still in the hunt.

I demonstrated in an early blog that (with Buff included) the Jets by far have the most man-games lost to injury this year. Very rarely does a team in the top three most injured lists make the playoffs. Both the Jets and the Pens could become exceptions to that rule. I personally applaud the effort by them this year considering the bad luck they have had. Leafs, Hurricanes, Preds, Panthers, Sharks.....all talented teams with limited injuries and all may fall short of the playoffs....what is their excuse ?

- jetsnation


This hasn't been talked about enough. Great post.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Feb 14 @ 8:24 AM ET
Since you're so polite, I'm happy to disagree with you.

Here is what you wrote:

"With Maurice being extended here’s what we can expect,

-Shiefele will never be called out for not back checking or lazy play
-connor will never be called out for team worst zone exits and horrible defensive play
-Ehlers will never play top line or top pp
-wheeler will continue to be the other teams best penalty killer against our pp as he holds the puck and does nothing
-systems will never be changed and injuries and personal will continue to be excuses for poor play
-pk will continue to be leagues worst
-vets will never be blammed or held accountable, blame will always goto kids
-assistant coaches who have done nothing will go nowhere

Bright future we have"

Scheifele is a lazy player? I disagree. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 8 years at 6.125 schmill.

Connor is worst at zone exits and bad at defense? I disagree. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 7 years at 7.14 schmill.

You prefer Ehlers on the top line over Connor and Laine? I disagree. As far as the 1st PP goes, Ehlers disagrees, having passed at the opportunity to join it because he preferred working the half wall. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 7 years at 6 schmill.

You think Wheeler is a poor choice for his position on the powerplay? I disagree. And, I'm happy he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 5 years at 8.25 schmill.

How much do you know about systems of play in hockey?

Is the Jets PK the league's worst?

Does the Jets organization do a lot of blaming? Can you cite examples?

You think the assistant coaches do nothing? What makes you think so? Why do you think they will go nowhere?

- Wesley Peters


Basically agree with what you are saying Wes! The Jets have a exciting team that we should be happy and proud of. With guys like Scheifele, Connor, Ehlers, Wheeler, Morrissey and Hellebuyck tied up, we should have some exciting moments ahead.

With a stable management and significant players signed to long term deals, our future should be bright.

Will we win Lord Stanley every year? No! Will we make the playoffs every year, probably not! But as long as the guys bust their butts, I will be in their corner - win or lose!

Not sure how much the injuries played a part this year, though the Poolman one perhaps hurt the most (d-man), although Little is certainly a significant part of the team and surely hurt.

So now we have the San Jose Sharks in town. Hope that it's not too cold for them, and they got a hotel with running water!
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Feb 14 @ 8:42 AM ET
Basically agree with what you are saying Wes! The Jets have a exciting team that we should be happy and proud of. With guys like Scheifele, Connor, Ehlers, Wheeler, Morrissey and Hellebuyck tied up, we should have some exciting moments ahead.

With a stable management and significant players signed to long term deals, our future should be bright.

Will we win Lord Stanley every year? No! Will we make the playoffs every year, probably not! But as long as the guys bust their butts, I will be in their corner - win or lose!

Not sure how much the injuries played a part this year, though the Poolman one perhaps hurt the most (d-man), although Little is certainly a significant part of the team and surely hurt.

So now we have the San Jose Sharks in town. Hope that it's not too cold for them, and they got a hotel with running water!

- grahamzky


Replying to my own message! lol

What I meant to also include:

I think the biggest singular factor in our season thus far was the Byfuglien situation. I mean all of sudden you report to training camp and you got a "d" of Morrissey, Pionk, Kulikov and ??? Basically rookies and claimers off the waiver wire.

I don't think anyone saw this coming. On top of that, with the uncertainty (which still lingers) we were right up on top of the cap space and couldn't make any moves - in case Buff came back. Damn him!

Buff played a lot of hockey for us and provided a lot of entertainment - but no invitation for him to my year-ending back-yard BBQ! lol
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 14 @ 8:43 AM ET
Since you're so polite, I'm happy to disagree with you.

Here is what you wrote:

"With Maurice being extended here’s what we can expect,

-Shiefele will never be called out for not back checking or lazy play
-connor will never be called out for team worst zone exits and horrible defensive play
-Ehlers will never play top line or top pp
-wheeler will continue to be the other teams best penalty killer against our pp as he holds the puck and does nothing
-systems will never be changed and injuries and personal will continue to be excuses for poor play
-pk will continue to be leagues worst
-vets will never be blammed or held accountable, blame will always goto kids
-assistant coaches who have done nothing will go nowhere

Bright future we have"

Scheifele is a lazy player? I disagree. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 8 years at 6.125 schmill.

Connor is worst at zone exits and bad at defense? I disagree. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 7 years at 7.14 schmill.

You prefer Ehlers on the top line over Connor and Laine? I disagree. As far as the 1st PP goes, Ehlers disagrees, having passed at the opportunity to join it because he preferred working the half wall. And, I'm happy that he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 7 years at 6 schmill.

You think Wheeler is a poor choice for his position on the powerplay? I disagree. And, I'm happy he wanted to resign in Winnipeg for 5 years at 8.25 schmill.

How much do you know about systems of play in hockey?

Is the Jets PK the league's worst?

Does the Jets organization do a lot of blaming? Can you cite examples?

You think the assistant coaches do nothing? What makes you think so? Why do you think they will go nowhere?

- Wesley Peters


Let me try and address these and equal your politeness and half ass attempt at sarcasm

Well you are wrong about shief being lazy, ( have you been to a game where you can see how late he is getting back or are you just going by TV which follows the play and doesn’t show this?)

you are wrong about Connor in the defensive zone, research any anylitics and you’ll see, TSN put out an article yesterday that highlites connor as being carried by his line mates, check it out.

You are wrong about wheeler remaining on top power play, just watch! He is not nearly as effective as he was two years ago and Ehlers would be the better choice in that spot.

Ehlers produces at the same rate as anyone on the Jets for minutes played, why he doesn’t receive more is baffling

Jets pk is the leagues worst

I know a lot about systems thank you but it should not take Al Arbour to see man to man is not working for us

Have you ever watched a Maurice press conference? Really? Maurice will back up the vets till the cows come home but be quick to throw a Niku or Roslovic under the bus.

I am happy with most of the contracts you mentioned!! We agree, almost

To be honest I have no idea what the assistant coaches do, I kind of assume they do want Maurice tells them and maybe it’s time we bring in some new ones to at least have some new views and voices in Maurice head

Glad we have a Jets blogger to write recaps.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 14 @ 8:46 AM ET
Really BW. Considering the complete series of unfortunate events that have befallen the Jets since last season, most hockey analysts are shocked that we are even still in the hunt.

I demonstrated in an early blog that (with Buff included) the Jets by far have the most man-games lost to injury this year. Very rarely does a team in the top three most injured lists make the playoffs. Both the Jets and the Pens could become exceptions to that rule. I personally applaud the effort by them this year considering the bad luck they have had. Leafs, Hurricanes, Preds, Panthers, Sharks.....all talented teams with limited injuries and all may fall short of the playoffs....what is their excuse ?

- jetsnation


We allowed 5th most shots on net last year with all so called defenceman we miss so much!!
Why is this point missed by so many?
All that changed this year were the names in D not the results!!
This whole D excuse this year holds no water!!! The results have been the same for two years.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 14 @ 9:08 AM ET
Man in this blog it seems
Some days you are the skate and others You are Cernak’s chest
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 14 @ 9:17 AM ET
This hasn't been talked about enough. Great post.
- Wesley Peters


Thanks. Bob McKenzie who I highly respect just reiterated the same points this morning. Maurice deserves a lot of credit.

BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Feb 14 @ 9:27 AM ET
We allowed 5th most shots on net last year with all so called defenceman we miss so much!!
Why is this point missed by so many?
All that changed this year were the names in D not the results!!
This whole D excuse this year holds no water!!! The results have been the same for two years.

- Ross77


If Buff would have retired early, we know who Chevy was going to sign ... Tyler Myers. There is no way anybody would want nearly 20 million in cap space tied up in Wheeler, Little and Myers for 5 years.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 14 @ 9:38 AM ET
Replying to my own message! lol

What I meant to also include:

I think the biggest singular factor in our season thus far was the Byfuglien situation. I mean all of sudden you report to training camp and you got a "d" of Morrissey, Pionk, Kulikov and ??? Basically rookies and claimers off the waiver wire.

I don't think anyone saw this coming. On top of that, with the uncertainty (which still lingers) we were right up on top of the cap space and couldn't make any moves - in case Buff came back. Damn him!

Buff played a lot of hockey for us and provided a lot of entertainment - but no invitation for him to my year-ending back-yard BBQ! lol

- grahamzky


But you would go fishing with Buf, wouldn't you? I would....even tho I am a bit miffed at him.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 14 @ 9:42 AM ET
Man in this blog it seems
Some days you are the skate and others You are Cernak’s chest

- Ross77


Like some days you are the Louisville slugger, sometimes your the ball?

Or..... like some days you are the windshield, some days you are the bug?

Just think, tomorrow is a new day,...... after a game...…. a new blog and a blank canvas to analyze, complain, argue, make points for and against just because you can!

Happy Friday!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 14 @ 10:53 AM ET
by the way,

anyone else clearly see how disappointed 55 is with Maurice extension?

that's how I read it anyway,

I don't put much stock into any of the comments that were complimentary because its their boss and he's going to see it, but 55 looked down right upset.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 14 @ 11:22 AM ET
by the way,

anyone else clearly see how disappointed 55 is with Maurice extension?

that's how I read it anyway,

I don't put much stock into any of the comments that were complimentary because its their boss and he's going to see it, but 55 looked down right upset.

- Ross77


Looks a bit awkward. Doesn't even bother to look up. Is there a strained relationship or ruffled feathers?
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