ADB, Sikura, and Gus for Panarin?
- Assman22

Rangers would ask for and the Hawks would have to give up more. Panarin is too rich for this teams blood.

Lets say Montreal will trade us Kovi. What would they want in return? Would you be happy if it was a third round draft choice?

No matter if they make the playoffs or not ( I believe not), Stan should only make trades that bring us draft choices or a young player, not give them away, which is foolish.

Interesting how things have changed this year. The PK and goals against have improved significantly, and the PP has regressed significantly.

I have a thought about the PP, play Toews at left boards, make Kane the trigger man (he has a good enough shot, he also has the skill that if he sees Toews back door he can slap pass with anyone). This way you work to get Kane the puck for a shot, not look to pass and sit around and marvel at his stick handling skill.
- LAHawk

I would absolutely give up a 3rd for Kovalchuk.....

I would also sign Byfuglien which would cost no assets.

I would also make a push for Joe Thornton depending on what San Jose wants in return....

Rangers would ask for and the Hawks would have to give up more. Panarin is too rich for this teams blood.
- LAHawk

Why would the Rangers trade a great player for 3 pieces of junk?

I would absolutely give up a 3rd for Kovalchuk.....

I would also sign Byfuglien which would cost no assets.

I would also make a push for Joe Thornton depending on what San Jose wants in return....
- Savard2Secord

Byfuglien is more done than my first marriage.

I would absolutely give up a 3rd for Kovalchuk.....

I would also sign Byfuglien which would cost no assets.

I would also make a push for Joe Thornton depending on what San Jose wants in return....
- Savard2Secord

I am sure if Byfuglen wants to pplay again he would be wanting a multi-year contract with a NMC (See Kovi's contract) with the Kings, how did that work out?

Lets say you got all 3, please explain how this makes the Hawks a better team over the remainder of the season, so much so that they would make the playoffs? Which 3 players DNP or get sent tothe minors?

ADB, Sikura, and Gus for Panarin?
- Assman22

I don't know why the second one of our star players hit's a slump everyone jumps on the "trade him for x, y & z" bandwagon....

Alex is going nowhere.... That kid has 50 goal potential all day and to be honest the Hawks lack of success and the lack of DeBrincat's success has everything to do with JC....JC is NOT an NHL caliber coach, his bread and butter is developing young players NOT coaching veteran's that have won multiple Cups...... JC needs to be replaced by Marc Crawford - Crawford is an NHL coach - JC is absolutely NOT.....

And like I have said in previous posts - firing Q was a terrible move.... This team would be a contender right now if Q was behind the bench because he trusted the guys and let them play their game and excel with their skills, and he was good mixing certain skills with other skills that players possessed and just let them play their game...... JC has some weird "I'm the boss and this is our strategy and this is how it goes" complex........ JC NEEDS TO GO!!!!!

ADB, Sikura, and Gus for Panarin?
- Assman22

Wouldn't get their #1 for all three. Two are career AHL, the third is overrated.

I don't know why the second one of our star players hit's a slump everyone jumps on the "trade him for x, y & z" bandwagon....

Alex is going nowhere.... That kid has 50 goal potential all day and to be honest the Hawks lack of success and the lack of DeBrincat's success has everything to do with JC....JC is NOT an NHL caliber coach, his bread and butter is developing young players NOT coaching veteran's that have won multiple Cups...... JC needs to be replaced by Marc Crawford - Crawford is an NHL coach - JC is absolutely NOT.....

And like I have said in previous posts - firing Q was a terrible move.... This team would be a contender right now if Q was behind the bench because he trusted the guys and let them play their game and excel with their skills, and he was good mixing certain skills with other skills that players possessed and just let them play their game...... JC has some weird "I'm the boss and this is our strategy and this is how it goes" complex........ JC NEEDS TO GO!!!!!
- Savard2Secord

Are you Q's wife?

I don't know why the second one of our star players hit's a slump everyone jumps on the "trade him for x, y & z" bandwagon....

Alex is going nowhere.... That kid has 50 goal potential all day and to be honest the Hawks lack of success and the lack of DeBrincat's success has everything to do with JC....JC is NOT an NHL caliber coach, his bread and butter is developing young players NOT coaching veteran's that have won multiple Cups...... JC needs to be replaced by Marc Crawford - Crawford is an NHL coach - JC is absolutely NOT.....

And like I have said in previous posts - firing Q was a terrible move.... This team would be a contender right now if Q was behind the bench because he trusted the guys and let them play their game and excel with their skills, and he was good mixing certain skills with other skills that players possessed and just let them play their game...... JC has some weird "I'm the boss and this is our strategy and this is how it goes" complex........ JC NEEDS TO GO!!!!!
- Savard2Secord

Q needed to go, just like Maddon needed to go. When the coach becomes bigger than the players, there is something wrong. The Binny's ads got to their heads.

Great review Tyler, your on point. Chicago's Power play is atrocious, whomever is running Chicago's Power play should ve fired.

Couple of other observations , cat and strome have been mia most of the season regarding scoring and just sheer energy and creating chances.

Seekers looked pretty good for having only 1 game to examine him.

Gus should be packaged up for either a high draft pick and prospect or teams like Toronto who are looking for a LHD would be ideal trade partners for Chicago, kap and Johnsson are available .

If Chicago ends up trading a goalie , in hope it's Crawford. Lehner is younger , healthy and his numbers are better. Crawford while he has recently played well the elephant in the room is his age and his 2 concussions and he wants to be the starter

Why does Kane essentially shut things down around this time of year? The Hawks do what the Hawks desire, and they are in no particular hurry. Making the playoffs would be nice, but they're not losing sleep if they don't. The future is all that matters. As an organization, can't say as I blame them. But, it isn't an easy pill to swallow for all our fellow Hawks junkies.
- gabriel

Translation For Above Mess:

The Hawks brass is in no hurry, if at all, to make any quality upgrades at the TDL. That's a tough sell for a guy like Kane, who is a competitor. He's pouty as a result. He's simply playing out the string. For my money, he's a key leading indicator of where this team is at.

I don't know why the second one of our star players hit's a slump everyone jumps on the "trade him for x, y & z" bandwagon....

Alex is going nowhere.... That kid has 50 goal potential all day and to be honest the Hawks lack of success and the lack of DeBrincat's success has everything to do with JC....JC is NOT an NHL caliber coach, his bread and butter is developing young players NOT coaching veteran's that have won multiple Cups...... JC needs to be replaced by Marc Crawford - Crawford is an NHL coach - JC is absolutely NOT.....

And like I have said in previous posts - firing Q was a terrible move.... This team would be a contender right now if Q was behind the bench because he trusted the guys and let them play their game and excel with their skills, and he was good mixing certain skills with other skills that players possessed and just let them play their game...... JC has some weird "I'm the boss and this is our strategy and this is how it goes" complex........ JC NEEDS TO GO!!!!!
- Savard2Secord

I respectfully totally disagree with your last paragraph. Funny but wasn't JC ADB's coach for most of the season when ADB scored 40 goals?

JC has some weird "I'm the boss and this is our strategy and this is how it goes" complex........ And you want to replace JC with Babcock?


BTW, Marc Crawford loves Zach Smith, probably one of the reasons Bowman traded for him was the recommendation of Crawford. so you want to see more Zach Smith on the ice?


Carter Baum
@CarterBaum


New asst. coach Marc Crawford raved about Zack Smith from his time Ottawa's interim coach and confirmed what #Blackhawks scouts already liked about him as a player. Bowman says they’ve had their eye on him for some time now.

I am sure if Byfuglen wants to pplay again he would be wanting a multi-year contract with a NMC (See Kovi's contract) with the Kings, how did that work out?

Lets say you got all 3, please explain how this makes the Hawks a better team over the remainder of the season, so much so that they would make the playoffs? Which 3 players DNP or get sent tothe minors?
- LAHawk

No GM is just going to hand Buff a multi-year contract - especially at this point in the season not to mention his age.....

Byfuglien will get a deal that has him signed for the rest of the season - a "show me deal"..... I mean I believe Buff is 35 right? well no team is going to give a 35-year-old a deal longer than 2 years.... 35+ contracts are hard to get rid of if things go bad...

But if we got Byfuglien, Thornton and Kovi........ Well Byfuglien would be an ideal replacement for Seabrook, Thornton still has nice hands and Kovalchuk still has a fantastic shot...... They would be tremendous assets on the PP.......

I mean imagine a PP of Kovalchuk-Thornton-Kane, you don't think that would be successful?

Not only that but the Hawks could run 3 scoring lines on 5 on 5 play....

Are these guys older? yea, but their also wiser and are still very skilled.....

And I'm not concerned about Kovalchuk's time in LA - because not every player works out with every team..... Duclair and even Strome or even Nylander are evidence of this.......

Look my point is that it's certainly worth a shot.... The Hawks have the cap space to make it happen and Kovalchuk and Thornton aren't going to fetch any significant assets.....

The Hawks have an opportunity to really beef this team up and make a run, they have the cap space so there is nothing wrong with at least trying......

I respectfully totally disagree with your last paragraph. Funny but wasn't JC ADB's coach for most of the season when ADB scored 40 goals?

JC has some weird "I'm the boss and this is our strategy and this is how it goes" complex........ And you want to replace JC with Babcock?


BTW, Marc Crawford loves Zach Smith, probably one of the reasons Bowman traded for him was the recommendation of Crawford. so you want to see more Zach Smith on the ice?


Carter Baum
@CarterBaum


New asst. coach Marc Crawford raved about Zack Smith from his time Ottawa's interim coach and confirmed what #Blackhawks scouts already liked about him as a player. Bowman says they’ve had their eye on him for some time now.
- LAHawk

No, I think Crawford is an NHL coach and JC is an AHL coach that is good at developing players......

No GM is just going to hand Buff a multi-year contract - especially at this point in the season not to mention his age.....

Byfuglien will get a deal that has him signed for the rest of the season - a "show me deal"..... I mean I believe Buff is 35 right? well no team is going to give a 35-year-old a deal longer than 2 years.... 35+ contracts are hard to get rid of if things go bad...

But if we got Byfuglien, Thornton and Kovi........ Well Byfuglien would be an ideal replacement for Seabrook, Thornton still has nice hands and Kovalchuk still has a fantastic shot...... They would be tremendous assets on the PP.......

I mean imagine a PP of Kovalchuk-Thornton-Kane, you don't think that would be successful?

Not only that but the Hawks could run 3 scoring lines on 5 on 5 play....

Are these guys older? yea, but their also wiser and are still very skilled.....

And I'm not concerned about Kovalchuk's time in LA - because not every player works out with every team..... Duclair and even Strome or even Nylander are evidence of this.......

Look my point is that it's certainly worth a shot.... The Hawks have the cap space to make it happen and Kovalchuk and Thornton aren't going to fetch any significant assets.....

The Hawks have an opportunity to really beef this team up and make a run, they have the cap space so there is nothing wrong with at least trying......
- Savard2Secord

Again, who sits? Smith and Kampf?, ok there goes your improved PK, Caggiula Highmore, there goes your speed and forecheck.

With those 3, I think the team would be older and slower than the Toronto Maple Leafs of the 1960's (who won 3 cups so were very successful for that era), they had 3 or 4 players over 40 playing on that team. Maybe we can get a descendant of Punch Imlach to coach. Rocky could save money in other ways, you won't need an analytics department anymore, just get a subscription to hockey-reference.com

No, I think Crawford is an NHL coach and JC is an AHL coach that is good at developing players......
- Savard2Secord

Agreed - I don't see the NHL leadership I was hoping for out of JC. That doesn't mean he won't be a successful NHL coach one day.

In the same way that Jay Cutler never showed emotion, Jeremy Colliton is guilty of the same. I just don't see the emotion I want to see out of a pro sports head coach.

This isn't a court room, this is sports. Players want and thrive off the emotion. This is why home ice advantage is a thing.

Also - I'm not blaming this year on JC. I just don't think he's ready.

Q needed to go, just like Maddon needed to go. When the coach becomes bigger than the players, there is something wrong. The Binny's ads got to their heads.
- powerenforcer

Right, because Q is only 2nd (maybe 3rd) place in wins in NHL history.... But yea, he didn't know what he was doing right? SMH

Power Play? I've always thought movement and screening were the two must-haves for an effective power play.
- 35Tony0

hawks have neither...and I am tired of watching duncan keith kill the play with shots to the goalies chest or glove...

Agreed - I don't see the NHL leadership I was hoping for out of JC. That doesn't mean he won't be a successful NHL coach one day.

Also - I'm not blaming this year on JC. I just don't think he's ready.
- catrisc

I agree with you..... He should have been gradually assimilated to the NHL, instead he just made the jump from the AHL to the NHL - not only that but a team that won 3 Cups and the core players are older than he is..... That move made no sense to me, Crawford should be appointed head coach and JC can be an assistant...

Crawford is a very successful coach at the NHL level - JC has proven nothing...

hawks have neither...and I am tired of watching duncan keith kill the play with shots to the goalies chest or glove...
- bogiedoc

Or Keith just misses the net entirely........ Sometimes Keith can just be aggravating.. lol...

Then when he does have a great shot opportunity - he passes the puck.... SMH

No GM is just going to hand Buff a multi-year contract - especially at this point in the season not to mention his age.....

Byfuglien will get a deal that has him signed for the rest of the season - a "show me deal"..... I mean I believe Buff is 35 right? well no team is going to give a 35-year-old a deal longer than 2 years.... 35+ contracts are hard to get rid of if things go bad...

But if we got Byfuglien, Thornton and Kovi........ Well Byfuglien would be an ideal replacement for Seabrook, Thornton still has nice hands and Kovalchuk still has a fantastic shot...... They would be tremendous assets on the PP.......

I mean imagine a PP of Kovalchuk-Thornton-Kane, you don't think that would be successful?

Not only that but the Hawks could run 3 scoring lines on 5 on 5 play....

Are these guys older? yea, but their also wiser and are still very skilled.....

And I'm not concerned about Kovalchuk's time in LA - because not every player works out with every team..... Duclair and even Strome or even Nylander are evidence of this.......

Look my point is that it's certainly worth a shot.... The Hawks have the cap space to make it happen and Kovalchuk and Thornton aren't going to fetch any significant assets.....

The Hawks have an opportunity to really beef this team up and make a run, they have the cap space so there is nothing wrong with at least trying......
- Savard2Secord

Getting Thornton is a pipe dream anyway. He has a NMC, he would only waive to go to Toronto (he is from London) or a team that has a real chance of winning the Stanley Cup.

Also I don't know how these guys give you veteran leadership. we know about Buff this year, Kovi has walked away from how many teams?, and Thornton had the C ripped away from him a couple of year ago. One cup between them?

I would rather see the young kids, see what they got, what they need to get better, than having a KISS tribute band.

Again, who sits? Smith and Kampf?, ok there goes your improved PK, Caggiula Highmore, there goes your speed and forecheck.

With those 3, I think the team would be older and slower than the Toronto Maple Leafs of the 1960's (who won 3 cups so were very successful for that era), they had 3 or 4 players over 40 playing on that team. Maybe we can get a descendant of Punch Imlach to coach. Rocky could save money in other ways, you won't need an analytics department anymore, just get a subscription to hockey-reference.com
- LAHawk

Who sits?.... Well I'm not a coach but what I do know is having depth is an excellent thing...... And lets not forget that Thornton is a pretty tough guy that takes no crap and that is something the Hawks could use.....Kampf and Caggiula can sit on the bench and be used as needed.....

And don't get me wrong I like Kampf and Caggiula, however Kovalchuk and Thornton can be used in many creative ways....... Perhaps the Hawks carry 6 defenseman? eh? or with the add of Buff, trade Gus - I'm sure the Hawks could get a nice haul for him.

I think any team would be insane to hand out any clause like that, but Keith seemed pretty clear in the podcast that he demanded and got it when negotiating his last contract. Did it have performance riders or an expiration date? Who knows?

We were last discussing this when people were (rightfully) questioning why Keith was still the PP QB. When I heard him talk about it, it was an "a ha!" moment, so I shared it back when it was originally aired.

Simply telling the guy accusing me of "fake news" where it came from - it's such an outrageous idea, how the hell would I have made it up?
- pdx2ord

I didn't think you made it up. Could have been discussions about the topic around the time of the signing, but I seriously doubt he (or anyone) has anything like that written in a contract.

Again, what would the remedy be if they took him off the PP?

Bring in Joe Thornton, Kovalchuk and Byfuglien....

Byfuglien will be a UFA shortly, and Thornton and Kovalchuk will cost almost nothing to acquire.....

The Hawks have the cap space to make some serious improvements, so if I'm Bowman I'd be working the phones, because really no pending UFA is off the board for the Hawks....

If these moves work then the Hawks are playoff bound or perhaps could even become a legitimate contender, if they don't then they have a nice first round pick er perhaps even a lottery pick.....

As it stands today the Hawks are in the playoff mix, when you're this close "selling" would be illogical - especially with all these nonsense discussions of trading Lehner and Strome.... Lehner and Strome BOTH need to be extended - neither are the problem - they're both solutions....

IMO, Q should have NEVER been fired!
- Savard2Secord

Really?

Getting Thornton is a pipe dream anyway. He has a NMC, he would only waive to go to Toronto (he is from London) or a team that has a real chance of winning the Stanley Cup.

Also I don't know how these guys give you veteran leadership. we know about Buff this year, Kovi has walked away from how many teams?, and Thornton had the C ripped away from him a couple of year ago. One cup between them?

I would rather see the young kids, see what they got, what they need to get better, than having a KISS tribute ban.
- LAHawk

Well said LaHawk. Thorton would be a solid edition down the middle as long as Chicago doesn't have to mortgage the future for him.

Buff would be great edition however I heard he was completely done with hockey more so because of his injuries , not sure he would be available.

Kovi is a hard pass, he in my opinion comes off as someone who isn't a team player and a locker room headache.