I'm not overly familiar with the Hawks roster so don't jump down my throat here, but looking at CapFriendly you guys seem to have a lot of cap space with not a ton of people to sign in the next year or two. With Lehner likely getting dealt, and Crow being a UFA, would the Hawks be interested in Georgiev? Rangers need to clear some cap space next year and the Hawks could use a goalie for the future (unless you have an emerging prospect I don't know about). I'm thinking something along the lines of Georgiev and Staal (cap dump) for a later pick (maybe 4th/5th round). Thoughts?
- SkjeiStadium

We have a lot of space for the rest of this year. We have Seabrook and de Haan on IR and need to have space for them on Day 1 of the new league year (or so I've been told). We can take on a couple of expiring contracts this year with some sweeteners for the future.

I don't follow the Rangers, but Is Georgiev the newest one, or the one that "there isn't any space for"? Our Goalie situation is probably the biggest driver for our TDL and offseason moves. Staal would likely be a non-starter unless you take one of our "costly" D back. Not a lot of room on our back-end and we have two contracts (Keith and Seabrook) that are basically unmovable. I wouldn't mind your Strome.

Edit: We do have a number of RFA's to resign at the end of the year, and have to sign at least one goalie. If Georgiev can be a an average #1 for a couple years while we get out of the valley that we are in, it might work.

Well it will be fun to watch this board after this....


Mark Lazerus‏Verified account @MarkLazerus · 14m14 minutes ago


Strome's scratch not injury related. Colliton said he has more to give, and wanted to get Nylander back in.

Dylan Strome a healthy scratch tonight. Adam Boqvist back in, Nick Seeler out.

After an off day yesterday, just about everyone is here for the Blackhawks' optional morning skate. I believe only Keith and Saad, the usuals, have taken the option.
- Chunk

Pretty bad when our #2 center gets healthy scratched for Nylander. What does that say about our #3 center?

Pretty bad when our #2 center gets healthy scratched for Nylander. What does that say about our #3 center?
- rpeters01

Nicely done!

Although Strome has been playing mostly wing lately. I'm happy that we have Dach. I think his offense will pick up toward the end of the year. He has been more aggressive lately and not deferring as much.

Pretty bad when our #2 center gets healthy scratched for Nylander. What does that say about our #3 center?
- rpeters01

It says our #2c is Dach.

I'm not overly familiar with the Hawks roster so don't jump down my throat here, but looking at CapFriendly you guys seem to have a lot of cap space with not a ton of people to sign in the next year or two. With Lehner likely getting dealt, and Crow being a UFA, would the Hawks be interested in Georgiev? Rangers need to clear some cap space next year and the Hawks could use a goalie for the future (unless you have an emerging prospect I don't know about). I'm thinking something along the lines of Georgiev and Staal (cap dump) for a later pick (maybe 4th/5th round). Thoughts?
- SkjeiStadium

Please hold while I connect you to Mr. Bowman.

We have a lot of space for the rest of this year. We have Seabrook and de Haan on IR and need to have space for them on Day 1 of the new league year (or so I've been told). We can take on a couple of expiring contracts this year with some sweeteners for the future.

I don't follow the Rangers, but Is Georgiev the newest one, or the one that "there isn't any space for"? Our Goalie situation is probably the biggest driver for our TDL and offseason moves. Staal would likely be a non-starter unless you take one of our "costly" D back. Not a lot of room on our back-end and we have two contracts (Keith and Seabrook) that are basically unmovable. I wouldn't mind your Strome.
- Chunk

Shesterkin is the newest one, and the one that will be the future in net for us. Georgiev, while very good in his own right, will likely be moved unless the Rangers can figure out a way to move on from Hank in his last year. It's possible the Rangers and Hawks could work something out for Georgiev but it would cost a lot more than a late round pick as Staal was obviously negative value in that proposed deal. I didn't realize the IR situation in Chicago so maybe they aren't the best trade partner if we're looking to offload salary for this year and next

I'm not overly familiar with the Hawks roster so don't jump down my throat here, but looking at CapFriendly you guys seem to have a lot of cap space with not a ton of people to sign in the next year or two. With Lehner likely getting dealt, and Crow being a UFA, would the Hawks be interested in Georgiev? Rangers need to clear some cap space next year and the Hawks could use a goalie for the future (unless you have an emerging prospect I don't know about). I'm thinking something along the lines of Georgiev and Staal (cap dump) for a later pick (maybe 4th/5th round). Thoughts?
- SkjeiStadium

Hawks have backups in the system and will be looking to shed salary for next year, not add it. Adding an old, slow, expensive defenseman makes no sense since they lack mobility on the back end. I don't see a fit there at all.

Shesterkin is the newest one, and the one that will be the future in net for us. Georgiev, while very good in his own right, will likely be moved unless the Rangers can figure out a way to move on from Hank in his last year. It's possible the Rangers and Hawks could work something out for Georgiev but it would cost a lot more than a late round pick as Staal was obviously negative value in that proposed deal. I didn't realize the IR situation in Chicago so maybe they aren't the best trade partner if we're looking to offload salary for this year and next
- SkjeiStadium

With the right return, I think CHI could/would do something. Just depends on the other pieces.

Why not just go with 6 forwards?
The others have been relatively worthless anyway.
Strome, Nylander, Cat, Kampf, Smith, Highmore -- all worthless.
Go with your best 2 lines and rest be damned.
If anyone should be sitting it should be 12 and 15. And keep 92 out since he's worthless as well. Kampf and Highmore try hard. Except plays go to die with Kampf.
- savvyone-1

Sounds like you are done watching for the year.

Just for clarification, what are your expectations for 4th line players? I don't mind Highmore or Smith in that role. Sheltered minutes, tend to get the puck to the other end of the ice...

Hawks have backups in the system and will be looking to shed salary for next year, not add it. Adding an old, slow, expensive defenseman makes no sense since they lack mobility on the back end. I don't see a fit there at all.
- Davewn

Got it. Wasn't sure what they had in their system, and was unaware that all this cap space would disappear next year so I thought it could be a way to get a cheap young goalie without giving up assets. Doesn't seem to work though. If you hear of any team in the market for an old, slow, expensive defenseman please let me know!

With the right return, I think CHI could/would do something. Just depends on the other pieces.
- Chunk

Fair enough. I think the rangers are comfortable holding their 3 goalies through the end of this year and figuring it out in the offseason, but with how the goalie market is looking and how deep the prospect pool is I think the rangers would be better off using Georgy as a sweetener to move some salary than trying to amass more picks/prospects

Sounds like you are done watching for the year.

Just for clarification, what are your expectations for 4th line players? I don't mind Highmore or Smith in that role. Sheltered minutes, tend to get the puck to the other end of the ice...
- Chunk

Ha! Not quite. There is something somewhat appealing in a weird, clown-car way that compels me to watch. Of course, then I get upset. And I was being facetious. Highmore is OK -- doesn't spin my dial one way or another. Smith, for a vet, should be much smarter than what I see. He does a lot of really dumb stuff that irritates the crap out of me, plus he's super slow.

And Kampf. Well, I think we all already decided he's Colliton's pet, much like Kruger was for Q. Except Kruger was really a shut-down guy with virtually no O skill. Kampf is a poser in that regard. And slower than we think. If he'd just focus on the D side, I'd be sort of OK with him.

Sounds like you are done watching for the year.

Just for clarification, what are your expectations for 4th line players? I don't mind Highmore or Smith in that role. Sheltered minutes, tend to get the puck to the other end of the ice...
- Chunk

You are right about our 4th line not being the problem on this team. I am very comfortable with a Highmore/Carpenter/Smith 4th line competing with other teams' 4th units.
Our problem is the top 6 not producing and being awful on the PP.

I don't think they are viewing Nylander as a 1:1 replacement for Strome. I think they just liked the way that he was playing and Strome was struggling at bit. I'm with you on DBC.

Lehner starting tonight.
- Chunk

How could anyone like the way Nylander is playing? He’s the worst forward on the team.

You are right about our 4th line not being the problem on this team. I am very comfortable with a Highmore/Carpenter/Smith 4th line competing with other teams' 4th units.
Our problem is the top 6 not producing and being awful on the PP.
- 67hawks

What the heck happened there? Everything they do is so slow and telegraphed (at least PP1). PP2 is more of a fire drill, but at least they move and pepper the net when they can actually keep it in the zone.

It still amazes me that Boqvist has more defensive awareness in his rookie year than Gus does after 4 years.

How could anyone like the way Nylander is playing? He’s the worst forward on the team.
- Ogilthorpe2

In terms of scoring, you are not that far off, but he has been playing much cleaner recently. Less turnovers, and getting into/keeping in the offensive zone. I'm not saying he's the second coming, but he has been on the fourth line and not hurting the team.

If he builds up his defensive awareness, he actually is pretty good on counter plays.

The first injury was a broken collarbone. The second was a shoulder injury (although I can't find much detail about it, i.e. when/how/actual injury).
- Chunk

Thanks, Chunk. Hope that Wise isn't perennially damaged goods in his career. Would suck if he had recurring injuries like de Haan.

In terms of scoring, you are not that far off, but he has been playing much cleaner recently. Less turnovers, and getting into/keeping in the offensive zone. I'm not saying he's the second coming, but he has been on the fourth line and not hurting the team.

If he builds up his defensive awareness, he actually is pretty good on counter plays.
- Chunk

There’s no logical reason to start Nylander over a healthy Strome...unless the tank is on. It absolutely does not make the team better.

There’s no logical reason to start Nylander over a healthy Strome...unless the tank is on. It absolutely does not make the team better.
- Ogilthorpe2

Strome has not been playing well recently, and is coming off an injury. Per Colliton:


Ben Pope‏Verified account
Added that his recent injury might be part of his struggles but that "ultimately, we've got to help him work through it."


Colliton on Strome: "Think he's got more to give. As a staff, it's our job to help him get there. Combination of feedback and, sometimes, you've got to come out. You want to get Nylander back in, and Highmore's played well, other guys have played well."

We can all bloviate about what we think of Colliton, but he is not wrong in these comments. Strome is still an unfinished product and not above the occasional scratch.

Strome has not been playing well recently, and is coming off an injury. Per Colliton:


Ben Pope‏Verified account
Added that his recent injury might be part of his struggles but that "ultimately, we've got to help him work through it."


Colliton on Strome: "Think he's got more to give. As a staff, it's our job to help him get there. Combination of feedback and, sometimes, you've got to come out. You want to get Nylander back in, and Highmore's played well, other guys have played well."

We can all bloviate about what we think of Colliton, but he is not wrong in these comments. Strome is still an unfinished product and not above the occasional scratch.
- Chunk

Strome certainly isn’t above being scratched, but Nylander has no business even being on the roster IMO.

Personally would have sat DBC (with a sports psychologist),

- pdx2ord

Exactly - and maybe a peewee coach with an hard drive chock full of how to pass videos ... and I am not just talking about last game, he's been doing that pass muffing fairly often.

Strome certainly isn’t above being scratched, but Nylander has no business even being on the roster IMO.
- Ogilthorpe2

The two are unrelated, imo. They want to sit Strome for "send a message" purposes. Then the look around to who is gonna play. Not a great option, but I am okay with trying to develop Nylander even if he currently sux.

Strome certainly isn’t above being scratched, but Nylander has no business even being on the roster IMO.
- Ogilthorpe2

Not to mention that DeBrincat has some pretty serious issues over the past couple of months- so what exact messge is it showing the entire team by not applying the same 'logic' to all players? Rhetorical question.

I'm not overly familiar with the Hawks roster so don't jump down my throat here, but looking at CapFriendly you guys seem to have a lot of cap space with not a ton of people to sign in the next year or two. With Lehner likely getting dealt, and Crow being a UFA, would the Hawks be interested in Georgiev? Rangers need to clear some cap space next year and the Hawks could use a goalie for the future (unless you have an emerging prospect I don't know about). I'm thinking something along the lines of Georgiev and Staal (cap dump) for a later pick (maybe 4th/5th round). Thoughts?
- SkjeiStadium

Sounds good to me..In fact, sounds GREAT to me.

It says our #2c is Dach.
- -Doh-

Strome not worth more than $3m as a wing.