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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 9 @ 11:14 PM ET
On the bright side the Hawks have now moved "up" into the 8th draft position. If they play their cards right and get a little help they could move into the top-5 by the end of this road trip. The Wings and probably the Kings won't be caught but the more ping pong balls the Hawks get the better odds to jump into the Lafreniere derby. Fantasizing about a Lafreniere-Dach-Kane line ... oh my!
- EbonyRaptor


The Hawks might have a shot at Marco Rossi.
tazer_and_diet
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 10.29.2012

Feb 9 @ 11:24 PM ET
I’ve been saying for years now that Kane is the problem with the PP, and I’m still convinced it’s true.

Everyone on the ice defers to him, and this causes everyone else to stop moving. They have the least movement on the PP of just about any team I’ve ever seen. Pass to Kane and wait for him do something magical...that, apparently is the strategy.

- Ogilthorpe2

Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 9 @ 11:24 PM ET
I liked how he got guys banned who dared to disagree with him...true story. One of the funniest things to me was how JJ bristled at the idea of McDonough "managing the message".

For a guy who wasn't a fan of dissenting thoughts, if anything you'd have thought McD would have been JJ's hero.

- HawkintheD

jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 9 @ 11:46 PM ET
Washington did it with Oates and they were unstoppable for the most part.

They have skill. They should routinely be a top 5 pp.

People can say pp doesn’t. Matter. It does. You score on the Pp it helps mask 5 on 5 and keeps teams on their toes.

They seem to have the pk figured out.

The drop pass zone entry is horrific. And it’s only a matter of time before they drop it to nobody and it’s a gimme breakaway against.

- SteveRain

Cannot understand why they still do that play.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 9 @ 11:51 PM ET
The Hawks might have a shot at Marco Rossi.
- DarthKane

Hey Hey
Holy Cow
One of the hockey sites had a feature on Rossi a couple days ago & probably still can be read. But Rossi is no Caufield eh

I checked Csufield's stats:
18 goals, 32 points in 28 gp. Freshman UWisconsin which is loaded with NHL talent.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 9 @ 11:56 PM ET
Hey Hey
Holy Cow
One of the hockey sites had a feature on Rossi a couple days ago & probably still can be read. But Rossi is no Caufield eh

- jhawk59



Certainly not, but he's who the Hawks should target.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 10 @ 12:01 AM ET
Certainly not, but he's who the Hawks should target.
- DarthKane


BTW
I updated my post to include Caufield stats
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 10 @ 12:38 AM ET
Dinky will never be much more than a goal scorer, that's what got him to the NHL. So when that part of his game isn't there, he becomes a liability on the ice. Holland doesn't want him, he's got little Yamamoto playing very well after learning the game in Bakersfield.

And speaking of Edmonton, notice the difference a professional NHL coach can make. Tippett is doing pretty good with having only 4 or 5 legitimate NHL players, 16 AHL'ers and 2 crappy goalies..

- RickJ


Just for argument sake, he does have 2 of the best center's in the league, like the Pens have had for 10 years.
MadHatter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.07.2015

Feb 10 @ 1:56 AM ET
Washington did it with Oates and they were unstoppable for the most part.

They have skill. They should routinely be a top 5 pp.

People can say pp doesn’t. Matter. It does. You score on the Pp it helps mask 5 on 5 and keeps teams on their toes.

They seem to have the pk figured out.

The drop pass zone entry is horrific. And it’s only a matter of time before they drop it to nobody and it’s a gimme breakaway against.

- SteveRain


That happened already when Gus fell down
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Feb 10 @ 2:47 AM ET
At least we can drop the delusion of "perhaps we'll make the playoffs.

Simplifies the choice at the deadline...sell if ya can find a partner...and tanking makes alot of sense.

0-5 on this western CA swing is looking likely.

Biggest problem with this scenario? ...Bowman remains GM.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Feb 10 @ 3:01 AM ET
Gus has a hard slapshot and it impresses the hell out of Stanbo and JC.

Gus, Dinky & Strome need to join Nylander with a seat in the press box. None of them are playing competitive hockey.

- RickJ

Like I said the other day, we don't have enough good players to worry about expansion protection.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Feb 10 @ 3:06 AM ET
This is another Colliton loss !! A team that plays only 20 minutes a game of intense hockey will lose close games. Way too soft again with the lead......Colliton's M.O.

I've had it with another failed playoff run by this genius coach with zero experience. He's had almost 2 full years to get this team in gear now and yet they scramble again, no better than last year.

This team made huge improvements in the off season in goaltending, defensemen, 3rd and 4th line free agents, and the PK. Also rookies Dach, Boqvist, and Kubalik. Where's the problem ?
This team should be at least 10pts better than they are.
What's the plan for next year Blackhawks because Colliton is failing miserably.

- Hawkytalk

Players play, coaches coach, when the playing sucks, look at the players, not the coaches. Perhaps the reason they were good the first period was because Winnipeg wasn't trying yet...
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Feb 10 @ 3:29 AM ET
The Hawks might have a shot at Marco Rossi.
- DarthKane


Rossi is a nice player but I'm still predicting the Hawks win the lottery and get Lafreniere who will probably be the 1st pick and be ready to step right into the NHL next season. He would fit very nicely on Dach's LW. Put Kane on RW and slide Saad up with Toews and Kubalik and that's a dynamic top-6. Find someone to play with Cat and Strome and that would be a pretty potent top-9.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 10 @ 6:32 AM ET
Rossi is a nice player but I'm still predicting the Hawks win the lottery and get Lafreniere who will probably be the 1st pick and be ready to step right into the NHL next season. He would fit very nicely on Dach's LW. Put Kane on RW and slide Saad up with Toews and Kubalik and that's a dynamic top-6. Find someone to play with Cat and Strome and that would be a pretty potent top-9.
- EbonyRaptor

Careful with whom you put with Kane.

He hasn’t been very Kanesian since the break - in fact, the last 13 games, only 1 goal with 13 assists (yeah, someone is scoring, but Kane is still their best goal scorer) - much of that time with a not-ready-for-Kane Dach centering for him.

He needs a couple of top-6 ready playets on his line.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Feb 10 @ 7:15 AM ET
Same old powerplay each year. Hire a PP whiz. Do you honestly think this could happen?
- jhawk59


I'm liking Wiz as the PP coach, that ought to shake things up
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Feb 10 @ 7:18 AM ET
At least we can drop the delusion of "perhaps we'll make the playoffs.

Simplifies the choice at the deadline...sell if ya can find a partner...and tanking makes alot of sense.

0-5 on this western CA swing is looking likely.

Biggest problem with this scenario? ...Bowman remains GM.

- ArlingtonRob


There's the Rob I've been missing
RaleighHawk
Joined: 03.29.2016

Feb 10 @ 7:22 AM ET
Unless the Hawks go on an actual outright win streak of at least 5-6 games, the playoffs are a fantasy. With so many teams ahead of them, and so many 1-point/OT games, it is not going to happen.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 10 @ 7:25 AM ET
Unless the Hawks go on an actual outright win streak of at least 5-6 games, the playoffs are a fantasy. With so many teams ahead of them, and so many 1-point/OT games, it is not going to happen.
- RaleighHawk


Doesn't seem likely, but not ready to have the coffin nails handy just yet. Last night's game was a bit of a reverse of the last two they played. If they could just put a full game together...
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 10 @ 7:44 AM ET
Doesn't seem likely, but not ready to have the coffin nails handy just yet. Last night's game was a bit of a reverse of the last two they played. If they could just put a full game together...
- HawkintheD

But they haven’t been able to all year. A good to excellent period preceded by / surrounded by / followed by a disaster, game saved maybe by great goalie play to get them to OT (14 times in 56 games, winning 6 of them).

As soon as the opponent puts pressure on the Hawks, the Chicagoans fold - can’t clear, can’t complete a pass, can’t establish in the ozone (if they can even get it in). Lack of speed and quickness, I think, coupled with an inability to get players in position to receive a pass and advance the play - resulting in long two or three line passes or cross-ice passes that -more often than not - get intercepted and turned over. Watch other teams - short, quick passes get out and up-ice and into offensive position.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Feb 10 @ 7:49 AM ET
http://www.tankathon.com/nhl
- Dieselhead

Woohoo! 1st overall on the first spin of the simulator!
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 10 @ 8:00 AM ET
At least we can drop the delusion of "perhaps we'll make the playoffs.

Simplifies the choice at the deadline...sell if ya can find a partner...and tanking makes alot of sense.

0-5 on this western CA swing is looking likely.

Biggest problem with this scenario? ...Bowman remains GM.

- ArlingtonRob



likely? I'd say it's a foregone conclusion.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 10 @ 8:08 AM ET
https://twitter.com/NBCSB.../1226700479834591232?s=09

When a player addresses this issue in any way, it's a problem
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Feb 10 @ 8:10 AM ET
Wanna fix the PP? Get rid of Kane, one of the best offensive talents in the league and by far our best offensive weapon/passer/playmaker!!!

No...never mind the fact that we have no legitimate defenseman at the point like Gus from last year or Seabs in his prime...or that DeBrincat is awful this season...or that we have nobody useful playing down low or in front of the net...and are in general void of high end skill/talent, Strome underachieving, Toews no longer offensively elite, etc...

CLEARLY the problem must be 88. As soon as we take him off the PP everything will click.

Seriously the dumbest take I’ve ever heard. Ever.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Feb 10 @ 8:15 AM ET
DeBrincat is as deserving of a healthy scratch right now as any player has ever been. It’s gotta happen.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Feb 10 @ 8:31 AM ET
Two short side goals - make a save.
- StLBravesFan



As much as I enjoy your posts as agree with you about short side goals, it's been like this since Belfour. Short side high is open all night long, all a shooter has to do is hit it. That damn butterfly style when the puck is shot from outside the dots drives me insane. But that's what they are coached to do. It's one of the reasons I stopped coaching. At some point all I heard from the kids and even parents was "but Eddie the Eagle does this and that..."

Crawford makes that save when he first got here. He took the first one standing up and went from there. And he had a great glove hand unlike most people think. When the blades are on the ice the glove has the advantage of core strength. When going down in the butterfly all the glove hand has is the shoulder, chest, and arm backing it up, and the goalie is wide open on the way down. Crawford got sent to Rockford specifically to learn the butterfly and spent quite some time down there. They draft the guy because of what he does and send him down to change completely. Ridiculous. But he did as he was told. When he got back up he was clumsy. Remember the overtime goals against Phoenix in the playoffs kind of clumsy. He couldn't handle the puck worth a damn, but he's gotten better and better as the years have gone by. I think he tries to get too cute with the puck these days.

I give Crawfod a ton of credit for his efforts taking direction and coaching I'm sure he didn't agree with all the while keeping an even keel. And I still can't stand Belfour who is the most unstable and arrogant guy ever. The best thing about him is his mugshots.
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