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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Penguins still after Jason Zucker Penguins still after Jason Zucker
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 22 @ 1:35 PM ET
Zucker’s numbers haven’t been great since returning from injury. Haven’t watched the games, but his numbers are ghostly.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 22 @ 1:39 PM ET
@Rino -- buy low baby!
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 22 @ 1:41 PM ET
@Rino -- buy low baby!
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I’m still not against the Pens getting him, but my concern is his injury is one that he may not fully recover from until a full off-season, so long-term is great, but he may not have the immediate impact we would be hoping for.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 22 @ 1:51 PM ET

- j.boyd919


Reminds me of:

Seems you signed on to play an entire season, but it looks like you quit playing about 2/3 of the way through, and I'd like for someone to tell me what the hell is going on.

Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jan 22 @ 1:54 PM ET
Looking at the standings we’re still very much in striking distance of the Caps. I can’t remember the last time we were in serious striking distance of the conference lead this late into the season.
- Victoro311

Top 3 in the Metro and I'll be happy. It doesn't look like there are going to be any easy teams in the Eastern playoffs, but I'd still like to avoid a scenario where we might have to get past the Bruins, Bolts, and Caps all in the same year.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 22 @ 2:11 PM ET
Top 3 in the Metro and I'll be happy. It doesn't look like there are going to be any easy teams in the Eastern playoffs, but I'd still like to avoid a scenario where we might have to get past the Bruins, Bolts, and Caps all in the same year.
- Tojo.

Gonna get smoked by the islanders again
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
I think I’d prefer Grandlund to Zucker.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
I think I’d prefer Grandlund to Zucker.
- j.boyd919


For whatever reason, I feel like Zucker is a perfect compliment to Sid (& Jake). Totally cool with Granlund though. Both are better options than Toffoli, imo.

Ideally we would acquire two players

one of:
Kreider
Zucker
Saad
Granlund
Rakell
Tatar

and one of:
Coleman
Smith
Wood
Pageau
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jan 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
https://public.tableau.co...=y&:origin=viz_share_link

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
For whatever reason, I feel like Zucker is a perfect compliment to Sid (& Jake). Totally cool with Granlund though. Both are better options than Toffoli, imo.

Ideally we would acquire two players

one of:
Kreider
Zucker
Saad
Granlund
Rakell
Tatar

and one of:
Coleman
Smith
Wood
Pageau

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Tatar and Glendening should be your 2 targets.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 22 @ 3:29 PM ET
Tatar and Glendening should be your 2 targets.
- Feds91Stammer


Why Glendening? It's hard to tell when you're being a smartass and when you're serious.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 22 @ 3:41 PM ET
Why Glendening? It's hard to tell when you're being a smartass and when you're serious.
- Rinosaur

Good cheap bottom 6 depth player. One of the best right handed face off guys in the league. Face offs are overrated but come playoff time you can’t be losing games do to late game face off losses.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 22 @ 3:49 PM ET
Good cheap bottom 6 depth player. One of the best right handed face off guys in the league. Face offs are overrated but come playoff time you can’t be losing games do to late game face off losses.
- Feds91Stammer

Haven’t you historically dumped on Glendening?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 22 @ 3:52 PM ET
Good cheap bottom 6 depth player. One of the best right handed face off guys in the league. Face offs are overrated but come playoff time you can’t be losing games do to late game face off losses.
- Feds91Stammer


IMO he's a good 4th liner who can jump to the 3rd in a pinch, but that seems like overkill for the Pens. They need more than a player like that.

Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 22 @ 4:01 PM ET
I think I’d prefer Grandlund to Zucker.
- j.boyd919

I definitely prefer Granlund, too.

1. He's a rental so he should be cheaper. Easy out at the end of the season if he's not a fit and we can always extend or offer him a contract if he is a fit. He's also having a worse year than Zucker so he should be cheaper there, too.

2. He can play center so he could fill a need in a pinch.

3. He might be more of a RW which I think is more of a need. On the flip side, I don't know if he can play LW effectively.

4. Granlund has a better body of work and is a more consistent producer.

Ironically, they were both drafted by MIN in 2010, Granlund in the 1st round (9th overall) and Zucker in the 2nd round (59th overall).

I think it's possible that NSH might be interested in either Galch or Schultz. They need help on the PP and they also need to replace Ellis. They could also use a LW.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 22 @ 4:14 PM ET
Haven’t you historically dumped on Glendening?
- Victoro311

Yes but that’s before I learned how horrible rel stats paint him. Isolated impact wise he as actually an elite defensive forward. His numbers are just usually poor because he generally has terrible linemates and awful usage.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 22 @ 4:39 PM ET
Gritty is under investigation for assualting a child. At first I thought it was a joke, but it's real lol
abcpens10
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.21.2018

Jan 22 @ 4:45 PM ET
Gritty is under investigation for assualting a child. At first I thought it was a joke, but it's real lol
- Rinosaur


Even their mascot is a scumbag haha
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 22 @ 4:55 PM ET
Erik Haula available, allegedly.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
I'd love Palmeri if he's actually available.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 22 @ 4:58 PM ET
Gritty is under investigation for assualting a child. At first I thought it was a joke, but it's real lol
- Rinosaur

I thought it was a joke too haha
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 22 @ 5:00 PM ET
Erik Haula available, allegedly.
- BINGO!

Why?
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 22 @ 5:00 PM ET
For whatever reason, I feel like Zucker is a perfect compliment to Sid (& Jake). Totally cool with Granlund though. Both are better options than Toffoli, imo.

Ideally we would acquire two players

one of:
Kreider
Zucker
Saad
Granlund
Rakell
Tatar

and one of:
Coleman
Smith
Wood
Pageau

- YouMeAndDupuis9

I feel that if JR really liked Toffoli he would already be a Penguin. My guess is that JR is really fixated on Zucker (it seems as though JR tends to get fixated on certain players) and JR is just waiting for the Wild to drop further out of the race and/or for the price to come down. Maybe Toffoli would be the consolation prize if Zucker falls through for whatever reason.

Of the others in the top list, I think Granlund is the only realistic target. On the bottom list, I think Smith is the only realistic target. Both are contingent on NSH dropping out of the playoff race.

Instead of two wingers, I would like to see us target a winger and a top 4 LD. I know that won't come cheap, but I think it would do wonders for our lineup. Maybe Suter would be foolish, but can you imagine this:

Dumo - Letang
Suter - Marino
Petts - Schultz

Talk about a mentor for Marino, too! Ok, that's the last time I'll mention Suter, but maybe there's a different top 4 LD who is available.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 22 @ 5:02 PM ET
Erik Haula available, allegedly.
- BINGO!


Has he been that bad?
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