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-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
I look at games played vs points accumulated.

Wild card standings

Arizona 51 gp, 57 points
Vegas 52 gp, 57 points
----------------------------
Jets 50 gp, 54 points
Hawks 51 gp, 54 points
Preds 47 gp, 51 points
wild 49 gp, 50 points
sharks 50 gp, 46 points

You also have in the top 3 for either division



Dallas 48 gp, 58 points
Vancouver 49 gp, 58 points
Edmonton 49 gp, 57 points
Calgary 50 gp, 57 points

Problem is you will have the pacific top 3 start accumulating more points and same with Dallas.

So you are left chasing wild card teams, and then you factor in the dreaded 3 point games which hurt even more. Hawks need the top 3 in each division to win games in regulation against wild card leaders AND teams at or below them in wild card standings.

I heard Foley say "only 3 points out" which is true but I cringe because he's not telling the ENTIRE picture with games in hand, etc. Points in the bank matter a ton when factoring games in hand....so all these games matter just as much as say the last 10, so when they don't show up in November it has just as much as an impact as not showing up in middle of March.

- SteveRain


True standings taking into consideration games played.
GP PTS PTS/G
1 Blues 49 68 1.388
2 Av's 49 62 1.265
3 Stars 48 58 1.208

1 Canuck 49 58 1.184
2 Oilers 49 57 1.163
3 Flames 50 57 1.140

WC Yotes 51 57 1.118
WC Knight 52 57 1.096

Preds 47 51 1.085
Jets 50 54 1.080
Hawks 51 54 1.059
Wild 49 50 1.020
Sharks 50 46 0.920
Ducks 48 43 0.896
Kings 50 41 0.820

I think the Preds get in. The Pacific top 3 spots and the other WC is up for grabs.
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 2:38 PM ET
They just need to stick with red/white.

I wouldn't mind them going back to white at home.....growing up you never saw those until highlights on the news unless you went to games.

Now it's all about these outdoor game sweaters and it's played out. Only thing worse would be green on the St Patrick day game...….

- SteveRain

They should change halfway through the year to white at home. Otherwise you are watching red vs. White at every home game. Would like to see the opponents colored jerseys
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
Man what a decade....and I enjoyed the Kane and Q videos.

Big FU to nbc Chicago for not showing that Q video live. Instead we caught the tail end via applause. Even the florida network showed it. Classless. You could easily argue Q was just as popular as most of the players.....Hes gone, I hope he and Dale have success in Florida, but the Hawks had to move on. Don't feel it was handled the best way possible, but its last decade drama. Turn the page.

Game wise....by far not Lehner's best. Bad 1st and 5 hole goal. Can't happen. I get he had the post covered but his glove wasn't on top of his pad which allowed the fluttered chip to make it over and in. 5 hole right below the dot can't happen. That's a bad goal in a beer league.

4th goal is on Murphy....easily could have moved it up to Toews out of the zone for a 2 on 1 but instead fired it down...Florida comes back and Murphy is out muscled in a crease battle.

Nit picking a little, but this team doesn't have much room for error. Teams will catch up in the games in hand, and then Hawks will have some games in hand and may have to win those to catch back up out of the break.

I would ask that we all stop making excuses for guys when they aren't playing bad...earlier this year it was thought that Toews had some mystery back ailment and now that he is back being Johnny Toews, those excuses have stopped.

Same goes for DeBrincat. Guy is just in a rut. If he;s on the ice he's good enough to play. Everyone has nicks and bumps, and this theory on some magical wrist or hand injury doesn't jive.

Doesn't make him an overall bad player but he needs to step it up. Getting stoned on point blank chances isn't a bad thing as you are in the right spot and getting those chances, and you stick with it. When you aren't scoring and NOT getting chances that is THE issue. He needs to start figure out his 1 timer because he's "heeling" a lot of them and hes counted on to pump those in. If hes not the PK against can move closer to Kane or Toews knowing 12 isn't a back door threat. Example....the chance where Kane goes down to Toews, Toews come from the side of the net and gives it to DeBrincat and the kid doesn't even get his shot on goal. That can't happen. Last year that's in the net in a nano second.

If you haven't seen it great picture post game with Toews, Seabrook, Kane, and Keith chatting it up with Dale and Q in the hallway. Shows the respect Q had from those guys. Great to see.

Lastly....

--11 games until the trade deadline
--31 games left, 17 on the road

What has sunk this team? How about being tied for the 4th worst home record in the league? 12-12-3 is extremely pathetic.

Only the Devils, Wings, and Canadiens are worse. Tied with Winnipeg with .500 w/l, not including OT/SO losses. Goal should be getting 41 points in those 31 games to ensure playoffs....as usually 95 gets you in.

- SteveRain

Player with world class shot all of the sudden starts whiffing on shots all year. That's an interesting "rut". What's a rut anyways that lasts all season. Compare his goal totals if nothing else. Not sure why people want to sugarcoat what is plain to see time and again. Something is wrong with DeBrincat, call it whatever you want. I just go by what I see
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Jan 22 @ 2:55 PM ET
Player with world class shot all of the sudden starts whiffing on shots all year. That's an interesting "rut". What's a rut anyways that lasts all season. Compare his goal totals if nothing else. Not sure why people want to sugarcoat what is plain to see time and again. Something is wrong with DeBrincat, call it whatever you want. I just go by what I see
- just69sayin


Yes...happens.

Look no further than Patrik Laine last year. And , I am sure there are ,many other instances.
Year 1....0.9 ppg
Year 2....0.9 ppg
Last year.....0.6 ppg
This year...over 0.9 ppg

D-Cat will be fine. Kid got skills.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jan 22 @ 3:05 PM ET
True standings taking into consideration games played.
GP PTS PTS/G
1 Blues 49 68 1.388
2 Av's 49 62 1.265
3 Stars 48 58 1.208

1 Canuck 49 58 1.184
2 Oilers 49 57 1.163
3 Flames 50 57 1.140

WC Yotes 51 57 1.118
WC Knight 52 57 1.096

Preds 47 51 1.085
Jets 50 54 1.080
Hawks 51 54 1.059
Wild 49 50 1.020
Sharks 50 46 0.920
Ducks 48 43 0.896
Kings 50 41 0.820

- -Doh-

The probability the Preds get 4 of their next 6 points is slightly less than a coin flip. They’re earning 54.2% of possible points, so the 3 games in hand will earn 3.25 points, on average. Assuming the Hawks points static, that puts the greatest likelihood as a tie, or Preds 1 point up.

Without looking, I’d guess the Jets are underdogs against Columbus tonight. If they lose, they're tied with equal games played. And, again assuming a Jet loss, Hawks & Jets are tied in both RW & ROW, the 1st 2 tie breakers.

Point is, if any bubble team gets 60% of their possible points, they’re likely in. 50%, and likely out. It’s a razor thin margin for 8-9 teams.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jan 22 @ 3:06 PM ET
Tyler mailbag question:
Do you think one of the goalies and gust are traded, if so to what team and for what?
Maybe Crawford/lehner to Carolina for fogel and a 2nd or to Toronto for ceci kap and pick or prospect. Other assets probably need to be added but that base of the trades.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 22 @ 3:17 PM ET
I thought this had good chance as goal of the decade. But it was in the 1st year of the decade and the strangest ending to a cup final most of us can remember. Of course its oddity may be why it won.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...c-314182708?tid=313972402
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 22 @ 3:20 PM ET
Looking for Jets & Wild losses tonight.
Too early to be scoreboard watching?

- scottak


yes to early...but so what...I hope they lose just because...
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jan 22 @ 3:28 PM ET
I thought this had good chance as goal of the decade. But it was in the 1st year of the decade and the strangest ending to a cup final most of us can remember. Of course its oddity may be why it won.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...c-314182708?tid=313972402

- bogiedoc

Considering how much Bettman hates Chicago, the Hawks are sure well represented in these moments of the decade.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jan 22 @ 3:49 PM ET
Player with world class shot all of the sudden starts whiffing on shots all year. That's an interesting "rut". What's a rut anyways that lasts all season. Compare his goal totals if nothing else. Not sure why people want to sugarcoat what is plain to see time and again. Something is wrong with DeBrincat, call it whatever you want. I just go by what I see
- just69sayin


confidence is a big factor....

do we really think if DeBrincat had a wrist or hand injury the Hawks would allow him to continually play through it and further damaging it on a team that at best is a fringe wild card team?

Not a chance.

He's still getting chances.....hes had some bad luck missing wide open nets, goalie's stoning him, and the NHL adjusting to him.

gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Jan 22 @ 4:01 PM ET
Looking for Jets & Wild losses tonight.
Too early to be scoreboard watching?

- scottak


Never too early. We need some outside help.

SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jan 22 @ 4:01 PM ET
Considering how much Bettman hates Chicago, the Hawks are sure well represented in these moments of the decade.
- tvetter


Friday when the teams are announced we need to drop that link on VopatsRush face
Slofire94
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CA
Joined: 01.17.2016

Jan 22 @ 4:04 PM ET
Friday when the teams are announced we need to drop that link on VopatsRush face
- SteveRain


Shea Weber might be in the lineup..!
oh wait...
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jan 22 @ 4:07 PM ET
Shea Weber might be in the lineup..!
oh wait...

- Slofire94


The Canuck trolls back in 2011 were gold.....he is in a league by himself/herself

What a tool.
Boisy12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 05.01.2009

Jan 22 @ 4:09 PM ET
Thought the hawks played a good game. Unfortunately Lehner (our best player) did not play great, and the Cat's turnover in the D zone led to an L.
Boisy12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 05.01.2009

Jan 22 @ 4:10 PM ET
Nice 1,000 pt tribute for Kane and as expected, tribute to Q.

Good thing fans have a short memory -- because the last few years under Q weren't the best (and Stan didn't help things nor did Q with his stubborn ways either).

I'm wondering why no one has bothered to fault 19 on the 1st goal. Weak in the slot and behind the play. Lehner had the post covered, it wasn't as if he never got across, he stopped the initial shot off the ice with his pad but wasn't able to cover above it. Weak goal for sure but had Toews done his job there, probably not a goal at all.

Unfortunately, that let quite a bit of air out of the balloon and it took a while before we saw some pushback.

How are you boys and girls liking Coo Coo? Finally given a chance to stay in the lineup, he's provided some solid D, some physical play and has some skills in the O zone as well. Not too hard to see why he was a 1st round pick.

- savvyone-1


Oh do you mean the short memory of winning 3 cups in 6 years and witnessing something that will never happen again in our lifetime?
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Jan 22 @ 4:24 PM ET
confidence is a big factor....

do we really think if DeBrincat had a wrist or hand injury the Hawks would allow him to continually play through it and further damaging it on a team that at best is a fringe wild card team?

Not a chance.

He's still getting chances.....hes had some bad luck missing wide open nets, goalie's stoning him, and the NHL adjusting to him.

- SteveRain


Yes, if not 100%, they would inject him with cortisone periodically, and no one would be the wiser. Would then address it first thing in the off season. All types of injuries allow for players to work through/with it. Ask Seabrook about such injuries that are hidden under the table.
gazza53
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.15.2017

Jan 22 @ 4:54 PM ET
confidence is a big factor....

do we really think if DeBrincat had a wrist or hand injury the Hawks would allow him to continually play through it and further damaging it on a team that at best is a fringe wild card team?

Not a chance.


He's still getting chances.....hes had some bad luck missing wide open nets, goalie's stoning him, and the NHL adjusting to him.

- SteveRain


Looking at Seabs you might want to reconsider this
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
Fluke performance by Lehner really cost us that game. Fortunately you know what you’re gonna get from him 99 times out of 100...he’s an elite player at his position, so just gotta brush the loss aside and look at the bigger picture: We continue to play very well. Vastly improving our team defense, PK, shots and scoring chances for/against(our advanced metrics are looking better), and obviously goals against.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 22 @ 5:16 PM ET
Player with world class shot all of the sudden starts whiffing on shots all year. That's an interesting "rut". What's a rut anyways that lasts all season. Compare his goal totals if nothing else. Not sure why people want to sugarcoat what is plain to see time and again. Something is wrong with DeBrincat, call it whatever you want. I just go by what I see
- just69sayin


This. He clearly hasn’t played well this season, and the team and it’s PP could really use his help. No more “bad luck” excuses for the Cat moving forward.

Really hoping he can figure things out and find his game before seasons end. Maybe Strome coming back can spark him and Dach. You gotta figure that trio as a 3rd line should be able to produce.
gazza53
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.15.2017

Jan 22 @ 5:17 PM ET
More on Lard Ass

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...nalytics-awards-midseason

Criteria: Given to the goalie who does everything humanly possible to carry his team to victory on a nightly basis, despite getting nothing resembling help from the players who are supposed to be defending in front of him. Honoring the +53.4 goals above average that John Gibson saved from 2016 to 2019 (the second-best rate, behind Sergei Bobrovsky, among all goalies in that span), ultimately netting Gibson a grand total of one third-place vote for the Vezina Trophy -- because the team in front of him wasn't good enough to get him enough wins.

Winner: Robin Lehner, Chicago Blackhawks.

Let's play a quick blind résumé game:

Player A:

46 appearances

.935 5-on-5 save percentage

.930 overall save percentage

2nd in goals saved above average (+25.5)

3rd in goals saved above expected (+18.9)

Player B:

46 appearances

.928 5-on-5 save percentage

.924 overall save percentage

3rd in goals saved above average (+23.8)

5th in goals saved above expected (+9.7)

Player A was Robin Lehner last season with the Islanders. Player B is the pace Robin Lehner is on this season through his first 28 appearances with the Blackhawks.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jan 22 @ 5:19 PM ET
Looking at Seabs you might want to reconsider this

- gazza53


or the magical back injury that has stopped been taking points since Toews started playing up to his potential?

Could he be banged up? Sure....so could anyone....

With Seabs you saw a slower, beaten up version.....DeBrincat is still motoring around, and still throws his weight around....not sure a guy with a bad hand/wrist is going to be checking guys.

Point is....it very well could be he is having a BAD YEAR. It happens. But this continual spin of trying to blame injuries for any hawks player having an off year is extremely tiresome.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jan 22 @ 5:21 PM ET
More on Lard Ass

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...nalytics-awards-midseason

Criteria: Given to the goalie who does everything humanly possible to carry his team to victory on a nightly basis, despite getting nothing resembling help from the players who are supposed to be defending in front of him. Honoring the +53.4 goals above average that John Gibson saved from 2016 to 2019 (the second-best rate, behind Sergei Bobrovsky, among all goalies in that span), ultimately netting Gibson a grand total of one third-place vote for the Vezina Trophy -- because the team in front of him wasn't good enough to get him enough wins.

Winner: Robin Lehner, Chicago Blackhawks.

Let's play a quick blind résumé game:

Player A:

46 appearances

.935 5-on-5 save percentage

.930 overall save percentage

2nd in goals saved above average (+25.5)

3rd in goals saved above expected (+18.9)

Player B:

46 appearances

.928 5-on-5 save percentage

.924 overall save percentage

3rd in goals saved above average (+23.8)

5th in goals saved above expected (+9.7)

Player A was Robin Lehner last season with the Islanders. Player B is the pace Robin Lehner is on this season through his first 28 appearances with the Blackhawks.

- gazza53



Yeah, I am not going to call him lard ass because 1 guy hates on him. Sorry.

Guy is very good. Should be signed here? Up for debate but there is no discounting his play on the ice.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jan 22 @ 5:24 PM ET
So unless ADB is putting up 40+ goals every year....hes hurt or a bust
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jan 22 @ 5:30 PM ET
So unless ADB is putting up 40+ goals every year....hes hurt or a bust
- PatShart



Yep....that's what I gather.

Any time any Hawks player doesn't put up his normal amount, he has some hidden ailment derailing his season.

Apparently you can't have a down year......now having multiple down years in a row is another animal.

Oh, don't forget....you are expected to IMMEDIATELY produce as well...See Nylander.
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