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Wesley Peters
Location: Niverville, MB
Joined: 12.05.2019

Jan 18 @ 12:19 PM ET
Wesley Peters: Jets Shocked By Lightning
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 18 @ 12:23 PM ET
TBL been hot & clicking like they were last season. Helleybuck hot & cold hurts & the D is most of the problem. Forget Buff & get on with a fix.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 18 @ 1:03 PM ET
Bitetto and Sbiza were terrible last night. I think the pair was on for four of the goals against. Compare that with Niku who was excellent again last night and might have been on the ice for one goal against, if that. He and Pionk have been the two best Jets D the last three games. It's pretty obvious to me who should get to stay once the Jets' D are healthy again. Kulikov was great last night as well.

Locker room "glue guy" or not , Maurice can't keep playing Bitetto any more than is necessary during this injury bug. After that , he should be waived. Sbisa is not far behind but better than Bitetto since he does a great job blocking shots.

On a side note I've been mentioning Cirelli as a possible Jets upgrade several times this season. He's an RFA on a cap-strapped team so its always in the realm of possibility. What's not to like about that guy. Perfect for the third line.

Roslovic looking better and better all the time. I reiterate that you don't trade him. He is still way below real value. Perreault on the other hand....
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jan 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
I don't think Cirelli will be made available. The Lightning will work some cap voodoo to make room for him. He's been a stand-out and his payday will be substantial, but not a back-breaker.

Realistically, here are some Bolts that I think are on the bubble and could be moved. Johnson, Joseph, and Gourde come to mind immediately. Johnson is still a legit top-six guy who can play center and both wings, but his star in Tampa is fading. Joseph has never hit that next gear. He has great speed and hustle, but stone hands. He'll never be more than a 4th-line "energy" type player. Gourde is a mystery. He can score 20 goals, but has been snake-bitten this season. Scrappy kid with attitude and a good skillset, could be a legit middle-six guy but this dry spell has a lot of people wondering if his initial goal-scoring knack was a fluke. Prospect wise, Volkov might also be on the block. If I'm Tampa's GM, I'd be listening to offers on any of those guys.

Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 18 @ 2:05 PM ET
Bitetto and Sbiza were terrible last night. I think the pair was on for four of the goals against. Compare that with Niku who was excellent again last night and might have been on the ice for one goal against, if that. He and Pionk have been the two best Jets D the last three games. It's pretty obvious to me who should get to stay once the Jets' D are healthy again. Kulikov was great last night as well.

Locker room "glue guy" or not , Maurice can't keep playing Bitetto any more than is necessary during this injury bug. After that , he should be waived. Sbisa is not far behind but better than Bitetto since he does a great job blocking shots.

On a side note I've been mentioning Cirelli as a possible Jets upgrade several times this season. He's an RFA on a cap-strapped team so its always in the realm of possibility. What's not to like about that guy. Perfect for the third line.

Roslovic looking better and better all the time. I reiterate that you don't trade him. He is still way below real value. Perreault on the other hand....

- jetsnation


Don’t you think Roslovic has looked better as of late because he’s now playing with perreault
Wesley Peters
Location: Niverville, MB
Joined: 12.05.2019

Jan 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
Bitetto and Sbiza were terrible last night. I think the pair was on for four of the goals against. Compare that with Niku who was excellent again last night and might have been on the ice for one goal against, if that. He and Pionk have been the two best Jets D the last three games. It's pretty obvious to me who should get to stay once the Jets' D are healthy again. Kulikov was great last night as well.

Locker room "glue guy" or not , Maurice can't keep playing Bitetto any more than is necessary during this injury bug. After that , he should be waived. Sbisa is not far behind but better than Bitetto since he does a great job blocking shots.

On a side note I've been mentioning Cirelli as a possible Jets upgrade several times this season. He's an RFA on a cap-strapped team so its always in the realm of possibility. What's not to like about that guy. Perfect for the third line.

Roslovic looking better and better all the time. I reiterate that you don't trade him. He is still way below real value. Perreault on the other hand....

- jetsnation



Absolutely! The game was too fast for Sbisa and Bitetto. And, 100% agree that Cirelli would be an excellent target once the Lightning have to face their cap crunch. Considering JT Miller got a 1st and a 3rd, what do you think Cirelli costs?

If we're not trading Roslovic, is he a right winger for good, or will he be able to play center at some point?

I ask because I imagine he would be part of the package for Cirelli.
Wesley Peters
Location: Niverville, MB
Joined: 12.05.2019

Jan 18 @ 2:23 PM ET
Don’t you think Roslovic has looked better as of late because he’s now playing with perreault
- Ross77


The two of them together are making Lowry look good.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 18 @ 3:30 PM ET
Ceci 4 broissot
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 18 @ 5:06 PM ET
Bitetto and Sbiza were terrible last night. I think the pair was on for four of the goals against. Compare that with Niku who was excellent again last night and might have been on the ice for one goal against, if that. He and Pionk have been the two best Jets D the last three games. It's pretty obvious to me who should get to stay once the Jets' D are healthy again. Kulikov was great last night as well.

Locker room "glue guy" or not , Maurice can't keep playing Bitetto any more than is necessary during this injury bug. After that , he should be waived. Sbisa is not far behind but better than Bitetto since he does a great job blocking shots.

On a side note I've been mentioning Cirelli as a possible Jets upgrade several times this season. He's an RFA on a cap-strapped team so its always in the realm of possibility. What's not to like about that guy. Perfect for the third line.

Roslovic looking better and better all the time. I reiterate that you don't trade him. He is still way below real value. Perreault on the other hand....

- jetsnation


Without Bitteto, who is going to bring joy into the locker room? I go to rumours comedy club periodically and was hoping that one day and maybe just one day I would see Bitteto perform his standup routine on amateur night.

Remember this Jetsnation, that after 9 years, this is the best defensive corps that Chevelallseasonoff has been able to build.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 18 @ 5:08 PM ET
Absolutely! The game was too fast for Sbisa and Bitetto. And, 100% agree that Cirelli would be an excellent target once the Lightning have to face their cap crunch. Considering JT Miller got a 1st and a 3rd, what do you think Cirelli costs?

If we're not trading Roslovic, is he a right winger for good, or will he be able to play center at some point?

I ask because I imagine he would be part of the package for Cirelli.

- Wesley Peters

Great insight Wesley. It’s clear that Maurice does not see Roslovic as a Center. And sadly his value has eroded so much that I think we would be lucky to get a third round pick for him.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 18 @ 5:23 PM ET
Great insight Wesley. It’s clear that Maurice does not see Roslovic as a Center. And sadly his value has eroded so much that I think we would be lucky to get a third round pick for him.
- TheUltimateJet


Roslovic was probably the Jets best player last night, and not just because he scored. Did someone just say we would/could trade Roslovic for Cirelli? Cirella a decent player, but a 3rd liner, whereas I think Roslo can still play 2nd line.

Is Scheifele hurting, bad game! Lazy! Gawd, I thought Kulikov should have stayed sick, he was lousy IMO. Not much positive last night.

See Nogier called up, they should play him. Scheifele for Wheeler, ho hum.
Wesley Peters
Location: Niverville, MB
Joined: 12.05.2019

Jan 18 @ 5:38 PM ET
Roslovic was probably the Jets best player last night, and not just because he scored. Did someone just say we would/could trade Roslovic for Cirelli? Cirella a decent player, but a 3rd liner, whereas I think Roslo can still play 2nd line.

Is Scheifele hurting, bad game! Lazy! Gawd, I thought Kulikov should have stayed sick, he was lousy IMO. Not much positive last night.

See Nogier called up, they should play him. Scheifele for Wheeler, ho hum.

- grahamzky


I'd suggest it's the other way around, in regards to Cirelli and Roslovic.
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Jan 18 @ 6:24 PM ET
The best move the team could do is fire Maurice and hire Gallant which most likely won’t happen. Helly can’t steal every game and the players seem confused by the lack of systems and Maurice inability to adapt to game situations. The way the Jets have been playing of late even is they traded one of their top 6 forwards for a top 3/4 d-man they still will be hard pressed to make the playoffs. They also shouldn’t be trading their #1 draft pick as they have to keep it for the future. Buff being ready to play by the trade deadline would give the team options but they still have too many issues for any long term success this season. This is a bust year for the Jets and unfortunately only a big shakeup could get them out of it. It’s a tough year to be a Jets fan.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jan 18 @ 7:03 PM ET
I thought Appleton was one of the best Jets last night.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 18 @ 7:13 PM ET
I'd suggest it's the other way around, in regards to Cirelli and Roslovic.
- Wesley Peters

This
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 18 @ 7:16 PM ET
The best move the team could do is fire Maurice and hire Gallant which most likely won’t happen. Helly can’t steal every game and the players seem confused by the lack of systems and Maurice inability to adapt to game situations. The way the Jets have been playing of late even is they traded one of their top 6 forwards for a top 3/4 d-man they still will be hard pressed to make the playoffs. They also shouldn’t be trading their #1 draft pick as they have to keep it for the future. Buff being ready to play by the trade deadline would give the team options but they still have too many issues for any long term success this season. This is a bust year for the Jets and unfortunately only a big shakeup could get them out of it. It’s a tough year to be a Jets fan.
- islansjet

This idea of the future is hilarious. The Jets have four players that are going to finish the year averaging a point per game and a goalie that will most likely end the season with a 920 save percentage. The Pacific division is in complete ruins and the Jets are missing a piece or two to seriously contend for the cup. I would trade this years first and next years as well, if it meant getting the pieces to get over the hump.
Jetter
Joined: 02.21.2019

Jan 18 @ 7:24 PM ET
The best move the team could do is fire Maurice and hire Gallant which most likely won’t happen. Helly can’t steal every game and the players seem confused by the lack of systems and Maurice inability to adapt to game situations. The way the Jets have been playing of late even is they traded one of their top 6 forwards for a top 3/4 d-man they still will be hard pressed to make the playoffs. They also shouldn’t be trading their #1 draft pick as they have to keep it for the future. Buff being ready to play by the trade deadline would give the team options but they still have too many issues for any long term success this season. This is a bust year for the Jets and unfortunately only a big shakeup could get them out of it. It’s a tough year to be a Jets fan.
- islansjet


Well said! This season was always going to be challenging. After Buff’s news at beginning of season, I felt it was a lost season. Without Hellebuyck’s play this year this team wouldn’t even be close to a wildcard spot.

Pionk has impressed me. Didn’t think we were going to get much for trading Trouba but so far so good.

Poolman will be a solid Defensemen whether here or some other nhl team.

Laine is evolving and will be a force for years to come.

Love Kyle Connor’s game. Watched during his last year in Michigan, solid player then and now.

Yesterday’s game was awful. I left after the 2nd period. First time in 9 years I have left a game. Unfortunately, with every team stepping it up another level, this type of result may be something we have to get used to for the rest of the year.

JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 18 @ 7:24 PM ET
I thought Appleton was one of the best Jets last night.
- bennythehat


The rest of the team set the bar pretty low for him but yeah Appleton played well.
justsaying
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jan 18 @ 7:32 PM ET
Well said! This season was always going to be challenging. After Buff’s news at beginning of season, I felt it was a lost season. Without Hellebuyck’s play this year this team wouldn’t even be close to a wildcard spot.

Pionk has impressed me. Didn’t think we were going to get much for trading Trouba but so far so good.

Poolman will be a solid Defensemen whether here or some other nhl team.

Laine is evolving and will be a force for years to come.

Love Kyle Connor’s game. Watched during his last year in Michigan, solid player then and now.

Yesterday’s game was awful. I left after the 2nd period. First time in 9 years I have left a game. Unfortunately, with every team stepping it up another level, this type of result may be something we have to get used to for the rest of the year.
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I think the above points to good moves made by Chevy. He was also right on Frolik as Calgary was anxious to dump him this season, his fourth which Chevy felt was too long. Thank God he has avoided Yakupov, Subban etc. Take the season off if those were going to be his moves.

This is not a team contending for the Stanley Cup but a team just struggling to make the playoffs as after losing five of six D men. I think PoMo will likely not be re signed after this season, which is fair because he has had his shot. Hiring Gallant or whomever to coach will simply be a new face and a new coach to target. It guarantees nothing.

TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 18 @ 7:47 PM ET
Well said! This season was always going to be challenging. After Buff’s news at beginning of season, I felt it was a lost season. Without Hellebuyck’s play this year this team wouldn’t even be close to a wildcard spot.

Pionk has impressed me. Didn’t think we were going to get much for trading Trouba but so far so good.

Poolman will be a solid Defensemen whether here or some other nhl team.

Laine is evolving and will be a force for years to come.

Love Kyle Connor’s game. Watched during his last year in Michigan, solid player then and now.

Yesterday’s game was awful. I left after the 2nd period. First time in 9 years I have left a game. Unfortunately, with every team stepping it up another level, this type of result may be something we have to get used to for the rest of the year.
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I think the above points to good moves made by Chevy. He was also right on Frolik as Calgary was anxious to dump him this season, his fourth which Chevy felt was too long. Thank God he has avoided Yakupov, Subban etc. Take the season off if those were going to be his moves.

This is not a team contending for the Stanley Cup but a team just struggling to make the playoffs as after losing five of six D men. I think PoMo will likely not be re signed after this season, which is fair because he has had his shot. Hiring Gallant or whomever to coach will simply be a new face and a new coach to target. It guarantees nothing.

- justsaying


Where were the drafted and developed defensemen that were supposed to take over when the Jets eventually lost players to free agency or due to the cap crunch?

Chevy, not only does he take this past season off, he’s been off since this team relocated to Winnipeg. He’s great at talking about drafting and developing. Putting it into practice not so much!
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Jan 18 @ 7:54 PM ET
This idea of the future is hilarious. The Jets have four players that are going to finish the year averaging a point per game and a goalie that will most likely end the season with a 920 save percentage. The Pacific division is in complete ruins and the Jets are missing a piece or two to seriously contend for the cup. I would trade this years first and next years as well, if it meant getting the pieces to get over the hump.
- TheUltimateJet


Agree UJ. I was advocating for the Jets to tank at the beginning of the year but have changed my mind as the season has played out.

For starters Hellebuyck like you said is playing at a Vezina even Hart trophy finalist level.

Second the entire Western conference except STL has looked terrible. Thanks to NSH and SJ playing bad the opportunity is wide open for the Jets. They have to beat out one of the top 5 teams of the Pacific. Though it seems Chicago of all teams is making a move so the Jets might have to beat them out too.

Lastly if all we are talking about is the Jets making a coaching change and adding 1 or 2 D man next year and the Jets are in the playoffs, then do that now and make it this year. They are 2 points out with 2 games in hand on Vegas, that's not a significant amount of ground to make up.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 18 @ 10:30 PM ET
I'd suggest it's the other way around, in regards to Cirelli and Roslovic.
- Wesley Peters


Whatever floats your boat!
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 18 @ 10:32 PM ET
I thought Appleton was one of the best Jets last night.
- bennythehat



yep, Appleton and Roslovic.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 18 @ 10:44 PM ET
This idea of the future is hilarious. The Jets have four players that are going to finish the year averaging a point per game and a goalie that will most likely end the season with a 920 save percentage. The Pacific division is in complete ruins and the Jets are missing a piece or two to seriously contend for the cup. I would trade this years first and next years as well, if it meant getting the pieces to get over the hump.
- TheUltimateJet


The idea of the future is anything but hilarious! It is of the utmost importance.

So you're willing to sacrifice the future for "a piece or two" that MIGHT get you into the playoffs? The Jets are NOT a Cup contender, even with "a piece" or two. Maybe finish 16th or 17th?

You build for the future, you entertain, and give us fans something to hope for. Start trading away those high draft choices for other teams rejects - or players deemed expendable - and pretty soon you're talking about the "Houston Jets", as fans, maybe like you, will turn on them - and stay away.

I'm appreciative of the Jets management, players, trainers etc. for giving us something to cheer for and entertain us. Are you? What do you like about the Jets?
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 18 @ 11:04 PM ET
The idea of the future is anything but hilarious! It is of the utmost importance.

So you're willing to sacrifice the future for "a piece or two" that MIGHT get you into the playoffs? The Jets are NOT a Cup contender, even with "a piece" or two. Maybe finish 16th or 17th?

You build for the future, you entertain, and give us fans something to hope for. Start trading away those high draft choices for other teams rejects - or players deemed expendable - and pretty soon you're talking about the "Houston Jets", as fans, maybe like you, will turn on them - and stay away.

I'm appreciative of the Jets management, players, trainers etc. for giving us something to cheer for and entertain us. Are you? What do you like about the Jets?

- grahamzky

Having four point per game players and a goalie with a 920 save percentage is what I love. No other playoff team in the west can say they have that. Having that one or two pieces to get them over the top this year, and we could be celebrating a cup! However keep dreaming about the future by that time Scheifele will be looking at free agency, we will have wasted away Connor, Laine and Ehlers best years and will be looking at the past with a big what if!
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