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rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 13 @ 3:24 PM ET
The hawks don't have the talent level they had in 2010. The team that wins the Stanley Cup is primarily the one that gets the best goaltending consistently throughout the playoffs. St. Louis had a goaltender that got hot when they brought billington up, and they rode that all they way to winning the cup. I don't think they win the cup with Jake Allen as their #1.
- LAHawk

Niemi played better than he ever played again.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jan 13 @ 3:25 PM ET
It would be nice to pry Kapenen or Johnsson away from them., but it will take more than Gus.
- boilermaker100


Toronto needs another goaltender to rest Anderson, protect from Anderson getting hurt.

Lehner, Matta for Johanson and their #2, get er done Stan. Forgot Ceci to make the dollars work
RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

Jan 13 @ 3:26 PM ET
Toronto needs another goaltender to rest Anderson, protect from Anderson getting hurt.

Lehner, Matta for Johanson and their #2, get er done Stan.

- LAHawk


Should throw Boq and Dach in too.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jan 13 @ 3:27 PM ET
Niemi played better than he ever played again.
- rpeters01


Niemi was never the same after he imploded with the Sharks being up 3 game to 0 against the Kings and losing that series.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 13 @ 3:28 PM ET
100% agree - this team would be wise to invest that 11mil in defenseman next season. Should improve this team exponentially...

Goaltending is important but c'mon we won Stanley Cups with Cristobal Huet and Anti Niemmi. Far from elite goaltenders....

Sure seems like this team is trying to goaltend their way to the playoffs this year. sad to watch.

- catrisc


Investing $11M in defensemen at this point would be asinine.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 13 @ 3:33 PM ET
Investing $11M in defensemen at this point would be asinine.
- mohel

When the dust settles Dach and Boquist could be $12 aav and $10 aav next contracts they're going to need some cap space.
catrisc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Elmhurst, IL
Joined: 12.12.2019

Jan 13 @ 3:40 PM ET
When the dust settles Dach and Boquist could be $12 aav and $10 aav next contracts they're going to need some cap space.
- rpeters01


Add Kubalik and Strome to that list...

Good thing about Debrincat struggling this year is that he won't be more than 6mil his next contract.

This team needs to make the playoffs. It's getting depressing talking about contracts lol
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 13 @ 3:42 PM ET
Add Kubalik and Strome to that list...
- catrisc

I still see Strome as a 3C but he will probably be $8 aav in 3-4 years and Dinky is $8 his third year.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 13 @ 3:42 PM ET
When the dust settles Dach and Boquist could be $12 aav and $10 aav next contracts they're going to need some cap space.
- rpeters01


They won't be UFA's until Toews, Kane, Keith and ADB's contracts expire 3 1/2 years from now.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 13 @ 3:43 PM ET
Add Kubalik and Strome to that list...

Good thing about Debrincat struggling this year is that he won't be more than 6mil his next contract.

This team needs to make the playoffs. It's getting depressing talking about contracts lol

- catrisc

Dinky is $8 his 3rd year which sets his qualifying offer.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 13 @ 3:45 PM ET
They won't be UFA's until Toews, Kane, Keith and ADB's contracts expire 3 1/2 years from now.
- -Doh-

I'm looking at Auston Matthews $11.6 that will be going on its 4th year when Dach's elc is up.
Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Jan 13 @ 3:50 PM ET
FF...

Leafs just called up Rasmus Sandin who is a Top 10 in ALL of hockey right now...


He was drafted 29th overall in 2018...two spots after Nicolas Beaudin was selected by our beloved Hawks.

Could you imagine having walked away with Quinn Hughes (selected just before Adam Boqvist) and Rasmus Sandin from the 2018 draft? Both top ten prospects in the league right now. How much would that change the outlook of this Hawks team right now AND going forward if they were able to have both? Not saying that Boqvist and Beaudin can't be very good players, but both Hughes (Calder Finalist) and Sandin look damn good already.

Just goes to show ya how sometimes you can be close to turning things around if you have the right amount of luck on your side.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jan 13 @ 4:02 PM ET
FF...

Leafs just called up Rasmus Sandin who is a Top 10 in ALL of hockey right now...


He was drafted 29th overall in 2018...two spots after Nicolas Beaudin was selected by our beloved Hawks.

Could you imagine having walked away with Quinn Hughes (selected just before Adam Boqvist) and Rasmus Sandin from the 2018 draft? Both top ten prospects in the league right now. How much would that change the outlook of this Hawks team right now AND going forward if they were able to have both? Not saying that Boqvist and Beaudin can't be very good players, but both Hughes (Calder Finalist) and Sandin look damn good already.

Just goes to show ya how sometimes you can be close to turning things around if you have the right amount of luck on your side.

- Savetheembers33


Sandin has played 6 games, if he plays 4 more his ELC goes into effect (like Bovquist), Quinn Hoghes would not have gotten the same ice time with the Hawks as he is getting with Vancouver. I don't think if the Hawks drafted those 2 it would of changed anything about the Hawks outlook. We are excited about our D prospects. Maybe though if Hughes played with the Hawks last year instead of Joki,, Hughes would of been traded for Nylander.
Instamatic
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jan 13 @ 4:24 PM ET
The hawks don't have the talent level they had in 2010. The team that wins the Stanley Cup is primarily the one that gets the best goaltending consistently throughout the playoffs. St. Louis had a goaltender that got hot when they brought billington up, and they rode that all they way to winning the cup. I don't think they win the cup with Jake Allen as their #1.
- LAHawk

Note that Binnington won the Cup while on a 2018-19 minimum contract of $650k (his fourth pro contract) while playing against one of the most well-paid goaltenders in the league in Rask. His example supports the idea of letting Lehner go and finally finding out what we have with our older pipeline goalies.

GMs do not need to spend money on individual goalies to find NHL-caliber goaltending. It is the one position in the entire league with relative skill parity across all tax brackets post-ELCs. The trick is getting the best bargain either through UFAgency or from your own pipeline and using the savings to improve the competitiveness of the roster that plays in all 3 zones.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 13 @ 4:35 PM ET
Does Lehner favor term or AAV? If the answer is both......he gone at the TDL. Either way, I believe he'll be signed or gone at the TDL.
- mohel


I’m thinking term.
Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Jan 13 @ 4:36 PM ET
Sandin has played 6 games, if he plays 4 more his ELC goes into effect (like Bovquist), Quinn Hoghes would not have gotten the same ice time with the Hawks as he is getting with Vancouver. I don't think if the Hawks drafted those 2 it would of changed anything about the Hawks outlook. We are excited about our D prospects. Maybe though if Hughes played with the Hawks last year instead of Joki,, Hughes would of been traded for Nylander.

- LAHawk


Haha I doubt Hughes would have been moved for Nylander. It's entirely possible though that those guys don't become nearly as highly regarded as they are now if they had been drafted by us or any other team. Sometimes (I think more so in other sports where they play right away like football or basketball) it's about the fit for the player as much as it is about their skill.

Who know's if either guy turns out to be as impactful as they are now. I still am very excited about both Boqvist and Beaudin going forward, but having two young who could help us now would go a long way
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 13 @ 5:04 PM ET
And if you think about it.....Kubalik makes Saad expendable. Now they have found a winger who can help Johnny reach a solid offensive output.

To your point, if Toews isn't a 10 AAV player anymore, and would agree on everything you said.....you sure as hell can't pay Saad 7+ aav to be a 3rd line contributor.

What would be fascinating to see is what Saad's trade value is THIS year vs NEXT year? I don't question he would be a great add for the playoff run, but a 6 cap hit next year for a contending team is tough to swallow, unless they have a hole to plug him into a top 6 role with 2 other very good players.

- SteveRain

No he doesn't.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 13 @ 5:05 PM ET
Asking for Elbows.....

How big is his ass? And is it largely muscle, or heavy on the lard?

- mohel

I was so giddy when I thought he blew out his knee.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 13 @ 5:12 PM ET
Food for thought...Whether Crawford is reupped at 3M or 6M per year there is a big risk that he is one concussion away from missing a lot of time. Then you'll probably have a tandom of Lankinen and Delia.

At this stage of his career I don't think CC should be the #1 goalie. And the #1 won't be an inexperienced Lankinen or Delia. And Lehner may price himself out of Stan's budget. So maybe a Markstrom , Greiss, Halak, Khoudobin type is in the cards for 4x5M.

- boilermaker100

The beauty is there is no drop-off from lard ass with those guys.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 13 @ 5:16 PM ET
The hawks don't have the talent level they had in 2010. The team that wins the Stanley Cup is primarily the one that gets the best goaltending consistently throughout the playoffs. St. Louis had a goaltender that got hot when they brought billington up, and they rode that all they way to winning the cup. I don't think they win the cup with Jake Allen as their #1.
- LAHawk

The way their season was going, they would have struggled to make the playoffs with Allen as their #1.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jan 13 @ 5:23 PM ET
The guy is tiny for a goalie. Listed as 5'10, 174.

https://www.eliteprospect...yer/228950/timur-bilyalov

- Rota's Rooter


Pang's twin
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jan 13 @ 5:27 PM ET
If they sell off guys then I could see them maybe do it, but they better have a veteran in the pipeline in case one or god forbid both struggle mightily.

This is part of the reason why I'm really surprised that they haven't given Lankinen at least one start so far this year and see how he holds up against some NHL competition.

- Savetheembers33


Would want more than a 1 game autition, remember some thought Delia was the second coming of Roger Crozier after his first game.
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Jan 13 @ 5:28 PM ET
I'm looking at Auston Matthews $11.6 that will be going on its 4th year when Dach's elc is up.
- rpeters01


Dach Better be as good as Austin Matthews to get that kind of money
Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Jan 13 @ 5:32 PM ET
Would want more than a 1 game autition, remember some thought Delia was the second coming of Roger Crozier after his first game.
- LAHawk


I agree 100%. In all fairness Delia looked pretty good at times in front of a VERY poor Defense last year. I'd want to see Lankinen to get at least 10 games in to see what he can do. I just meant with calling him up when Crow or Lehner got hurt that I was surprised he didn't get at least one game in at that time.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jan 13 @ 6:20 PM ET
Dach Better be as good as Austin Matthews to get that kind of money
- wonthecup10


You mean the Austin Matthews with 0 Stanley Cups? And got the best coach in NHL history fired?
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