Risto’s game has improved this year under Kruger. Has the grit Hawks fans are looking for with the offensive talent to produce 40 plus points. Actually most Sabres fans would hate to see him go. I agree Kane is better than Hall and will be for the next years. Sabres fans are getting impatient and would forget about Dahlin if it meant Kane and Eichel leading the Sabres to a Cup. I’d take Kane’s next 5 years into his mid thirties over the Dahlin’s next 5.

Question is though would Hawk fans be able to part with Kane if it meant getting a generational D-man and a top prospect like Cozens, Toews could groom?

Likely no other D-man than those two on the Sabres could get a move like this done.
- Forged In Buffalo

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If the Hawks contemplate moving Kane which o highly doubt, they would move him during the off season, this would never be an in season move.

Kane is a great player but he doesn’t fit into Chicago’s current or future plans. By the time the hawks are ready to contend, 4 to 6 years, Kane will no longer be a top contributor.

Is a team, like buffalo willing to overpay, ie: Dahlin, plus, plus? If so I think the hawks have to listen and seriously consider making the move. That said a move like this can only occur if Kane agrees, with no pressure, to waive his NTC for any move. It’s a huge risk in many ways. The return proves not to benefit Chicago, the integrity of team can be damaged by moving one of the faces of the franchise and of course the short term damage. Man I’m glad I flip burgers for a living and don’t have to make these types of decisions.
- paulr

It could backfire, but if Buffalo would trade Dahlin and Cozens for Kane, I'd probably even retain some salary to make it work.

May be old news, but the documentary about Bob Probert, "Tough Guy," is out now on Amazon Prime

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Crazy stat

@MarkPotash
The firing of Joel Quenneville and Craig Berube's Stanley Cup with the Blues have opened the floodgates for in-season coaching changes. After zero in 2017-18, there have been 13 in the last 14 months. Nearly half the NHL — 15 teams — have changed coaches in that span. Yikes!

Curious how many have ended up in recycling of the old guard coaches and how many have brought in new blood.

Rumors out there that Nashville is going after Babcock.
- pdx2ord

That would be good for the rest of the division.

Trading P Kane would be the Blackhawks version of The Great Gretzky trade (first one from Edm). Worse than B Hull
absconding ("jet" -isoned) to a new league. Mutiny by the Blackhawks fans would surely follow.

You realize that Saad is better than Anderson, right?
- Elbows15

Why not have not have both or kapeean from Toronto be another choice good size lots of speed plays with sn edge and offensive upside.

What has Jack Hughes done at the NHL level so far and the Finnish kid with the Rangers? Squat really because they are also about 2 years away from making an impact in the NHL. And all 3 have similar scoring stats.

Patience required with 18 year olds.
- RickJ

Lol he plays on a way better team then Hughes and im willing to bet Hughes has more scoring chances and high danger chances and stronger possesion numbers. The points are going to come for jack he gets a pretty good scoring chance every night he plays I doubt Dach is making that impact with the Hawks right now even with him close AT THIS POINT in pts to Hughes and Kakko.

You are looking at one tree in the entire painting and making a comparision.

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If the Hawks contemplate moving Kane which o highly doubt, they would move him during the off season, this would never be an in season move.
- LAHawk

Sure, perhaps would be more likely on our end as well as, the Sabres would have the cap space to support Kanes contract. However with that being said, moving him sooner rather than lately, would likely influence where the Hawks finish in the standings this year and this summers draft.

It could backfire, but if Buffalo would trade Dahlin and Cozens for Kane, I'd probably even retain some salary to make it work.
- tazer_and_diet

To make a trade like this in year the Hawks would have to retain some of Kane’s contract and in exchange for getting the number one pick in last years draft plus a top prospect like Cozens, might also/or take on Okposo’s contract?

Lol he plays on a way better team then Hughes and im willing to bet Hughes has more scoring chances and high danger chances and stronger possesion numbers. The points are going to come for jack he gets a pretty good scoring chance every night he plays I doubt Dach is making that impact with the Hawks right now even with him close AT THIS POINT in pts to Hughes and Kakko.

You are looking at one tree in the entire painting and making a comparision.
- Devilish4

You can doubt it but you'd be wrong. I'm not sure how Hughes is being utilized in NJ but my guess would be he's likely in a top 6 role and being counted on for scoring.

Until about 4 games ago, Dach was getting the bulk of his time in the bottom 6 forward group and has shown to be pretty responsible defensively for his age while providing some scoring.

Since being put on a line with Strome and DeBrincat, he and that line as a whole are generating offense. Like Hughes, the numbers for Dach while maybe not as high, will likely be there as well.

Seems like you're guilty though of the same thing you're accusing the other poster of.

Trading P Kane would be the Blackhawks version of The Great Gretzky trade (first one from Edm). Worse than B Hull
absconding ("jet" -isoned) to a new league. Mutiny by the Blackhawks fans would surely follow.
- jhawk59

I’m sure no one in Chicago is wanting to run Kane out of town as he played ten incredible years there and 8 points away from 1,000!

But it is a business and even Gretzky was traded. Worse than Hull trade for who? Hawks fans or Kane?

Hawks fans are right, a trade like this could backfire (I.e, Dahlin doesn’t reach full potential and Hawks don’t acquire top 3 pick by descending from loosing a player like Kane) or since it is a business be the smartest trade a GM could make while a player like Kane is still ascending.

Could also backfire for Sabres too. A risk Sabres fans I think would be willing to take.

Not that Kane wants out of Chicago either but, when it’s all said and done, he represents the possibility of being a top 3 American player of all time. Sabre fans would welcome him back with open arms and create a buzz we haven’t seen here since Lafontaine and Mogilny.

Be great for hockey fans!

Trading P Kane would be the Blackhawks version of The Great Gretzky trade (first one from Edm). Worse than B Hull
absconding ("jet" -isoned) to a new league. Mutiny by the Blackhawks fans would surely follow.
- jhawk59

Yes but Edmonton did go on to win a SC after the trade

I’m sure no one in Chicago is wanting to run Kane out of town as he played ten incredible years there and 8 points away from 1,000!

But it is a business and even Gretzky was traded. Worse than Hull trade for who? Hawks fans or Kane?

Hawks fans are right, a trade like this could backfire (I.e, Dahlin doesn’t reach full potential and Hawks don’t acquire top 3 pick by descending from loosing a player like Kane) or since it is a business be the smartest trade a GM could make while a player like Kane is still ascending.

Could also backfire for Sabres too. A risk Sabres fans I think would be willing to take.

Not that Kane wants out of Chicago either but, when it’s all said and done, he represents the possibility of being a top 3 American player of all time. Sabre fans would welcome him back with open arms and create a buzz we haven’t seen here since Lafontaine and Mogilny.

Be great for hockey fans!
- Forged In Buffalo

Wasn't necessarily a great comp since there was no trade but sounds like he was trying to compare it to the black eye the organization sustained after letting it's best player leave.

In this case the Hawks would be getting players back but I kind of get where he was going.

Edit - though agree with PE’s point below.

Trading P Kane would be the Blackhawks version of The Great Gretzky trade (first one from Edm). Worse than B Hull
absconding ("jet" -isoned) to a new league. Mutiny by the Blackhawks fans would surely follow.
- jhawk59

I have to disagree with you on this point. The old man was too cheap to pay the man what he deserved. If Kane is traded, it is a business using assets to move forward. That is the way businesses work. Nothing wrong with that.

I could see a situation like this happen - Kane stays with the Blackhawks, but if in a few years Buffalo is fighting for the Cup, Kane gets traded there to get his Cup before he retires......

I have to disagree with you on this point. The old man was too cheap to pay the man what he deserved. If Kane is traded, it is a business using assets to move forward. That is the way businesses work. Nothing wrong with that.

I could see a situation like this happen - Kane stays with the Blackhawks, but if in a few years Buffalo is fighting for the Cup, Kane gets traded there to get his Cup before he retires......
- powerenforcer

All very logical statements and Sabre fans would settle for this. Only issue with obtaining Kane after his contract expires is that Hawks would loose out in acquiring future assets.

Not even sure Boterill would give up said assets. As this remains at the time in Buffalo, conversation within the wish lists of Sabres fans behind closed doors in close groups and something “The Instigators” haven’t even touched discussing.

Think it’s a Hockey Buzz worth discussing at least.

Kane is the only Blackhawk that can fill seats single handedly. He will retire a blackhawk. it's cute to ponder trades tho.

Kane is the only Blackhawk that can fill seats single handedly. He will retire a blackhawk. it's cute to ponder trades tho.
- catrisc

You’re assuming he wants to stay in Chicago. It was an easy assumption to make 4 years ago...I’m not so sure anymore.

I’m sure no one in Chicago is wanting to run Kane out of town as he played ten incredible years there and 8 points away from 1,000!

But it is a business and even Gretzky was traded. Worse than Hull trade for who? Hawks fans or Kane?

Hawks fans are right, a trade like this could backfire (I.e, Dahlin doesn’t reach full potential and Hawks don’t acquire top 3 pick by descending from loosing a player like Kane) or since it is a business be the smartest trade a GM could make while a player like Kane is still ascending.

Could also backfire for Sabres too. A risk Sabres fans I think would be willing to take.

Not that Kane wants out of Chicago either but, when it’s all said and done, he represents the possibility of being a top 3 American player of all time. Sabre fans would welcome him back with open arms and create a buzz we haven’t seen here since Lafontaine and Mogilny.

Be great for hockey fans!
- Forged In Buffalo

And that is why this trade has a minute chance of happening. Kane puts fans into the United Center, no matter how good or bad the team is.

By the way B. Hull was not traded, he signed with a rival league because he was offered a $1 mil., and he was always fighting with Hawks Mgmt. as to his salary every year.

Also why would the Hawks want Dahlin, and Risto. They are bereft in top 6 forward prospects, the Hawks have plenty of young D prospects. Dahlin might be very good, I don't think he is generational.

Kane is the only Blackhawk that can fill seats single handedly. He will retire a blackhawk. it's cute to ponder trades tho.
- catrisc

Unlikely, but then again, Gretzky got traded...

It could backfire, but if Buffalo would trade Dahlin and Cozens for Kane, I'd probably even retain some salary to make it work.
- tazer_and_diet

Out of all the aging core members, it’s hilarious some of you choose Kane to trade versus everyone else whom have all declined greatly while Kane continues to thrive regardless of what line he is on or the status of the team. I’m all for trading the core away except Kane. Toews can go yesterday, Keith and Crow too. Not Kane.

I’m sure no one in Chicago is wanting to run Kane out of town as he played ten incredible years there and 8 points away from 1,000!

But it is a business and even Gretzky was traded. Worse than Hull trade for who? Hawks fans or Kane?

Hawks fans are right, a trade like this could backfire (I.e, Dahlin doesn’t reach full potential and Hawks don’t acquire top 3 pick by descending from loosing a player like Kane) or since it is a business be the smartest trade a GM could make while a player like Kane is still ascending.

Could also backfire for Sabres too. A risk Sabres fans I think would be willing to take.

Not that Kane wants out of Chicago either but, when it’s all said and done, he represents the possibility of being a top 3 American player of all time. Sabre fans would welcome him back with open arms and create a buzz we haven’t seen here since Lafontaine and Mogilny.

Be great for hockey fans!
- Forged In Buffalo

Gretzky was traded because the Owner was in desperate need of money. Don't forget along with the players, Pocklington got $15 mil. in cash.

Out of all the aging core members, it’s hilarious some of you choose Kane to trade versus everyone else whom have all declined greatly while Kane continues to thrive regardless of what line he is on or the status of the team. I’m all for trading the core away except Kane. Toews can go yesterday, Keith and Crow too. Not Kane.
- Assman22

That's why they chose Kane, he brings the highest potential return.

Rutherford said Pittsburgh is looking for a top 6 forward to replace Guentzel, and the players he has been offered so far have been underwhelming. I wonder what he would give up for Saad?

Rutherford said Pittsburgh is looking for a top 6 forward to replace Guentzel, and the players he has been offered so far have been underwhelming. I wonder what he would give up for Saad?
- LAHawk

Or maybe Saad was one of the underwhelming offers.

You’re assuming he wants to stay in Chicago. It was an easy assumption to make 4 years ago...I’m not so sure anymore.
- Ogilthorpe2

My exact reaction. I think he has very strong loyalty to Stan and Rocky, after living with Stan as a rookie and to both for sticking by him after his public off-ice issues.

But, after being split from Toews and Sharp way back when for balance, he got a taste again with Panarin of what it could be like, playing consistently with a high-skill player with whom he has a ton of chemistry. While chemistry isn't guaranteed, he's also played with quite a few other pros in international and summer play and may have some in mind. This year, he's just been put on the THIRD line with the dregs - it's frankly disrespectful considering his contributions to and role on team. When reunited with Toews, there's often a goal almost immediately.

Kane's at the stage of his career where winning is still paramount, but he's also chasing records of the greats and he is well aware of that. Don't buy for a second he doesn't have them all memorized.

His demeanor on ice and on the bench is worse than I think I've ever seen since I started following the team. Kid does not have a poker face. He's also, for the first time I can remember, skipping almost every optional practice. May be an age, rest thing and may be absolutely nothing, but it says something to me.

I want him to stay, of course, but would not shock me at all to hear he has requested a trade to a near-term contender. If Stan is fired, all bets are off for a multitude of reasons.

P.S. Kane didn't get a single shot on goal against DETROIT - that is just sad and cannot continue if due to his assigned line mates.