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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Dec 9 @ 8:16 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Time to invest in Evgeni Malkin Time to invest in Evgeni Malkin
Dr Blob
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 09.30.2018

Dec 9 @ 8:18 AM ET
First!
rocheccw
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 08.15.2007

Dec 9 @ 8:40 AM ET
I'd roll the dice & leave Malkin on the top line. Crosby is a team player, & will be coming off injury. Why not reverse the roles & see if you can get Crosby to produce on the 2nd line?

If Malkin stops producing, or if the team stops winning then you could switch them back.

What could we give for Hall? 2020 1st / Poulin / Murry? for Hall with 50% salary retained.
sufi-judge
Washington Capitals
Joined: 04.30.2015

Dec 9 @ 8:50 AM ET
Hidden in all this GENO smoke is Jack Johnson - on a pace for a PLUS-23 - playing 18+ minutes a game. Per the way he was presented here: He's a HOCKEY GOD.

Just saying.... LOL
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 9:00 AM ET
I'd roll the dice & leave Malkin on the top line. Crosby is a team player, & will be coming off injury. Why not reverse the roles & see if you can get Crosby to produce on the 2nd line?

If Malkin stops producing, or if the team stops winning then you could switch them back.

What could we give for Hall? 2020 1st / Poulin / Murry? for Hall with 50% salary retained.

- rocheccw


I think they'd want something more since the 1st is likely on the back end. Maybe a 2nd that could be a conditional 1st if he resigns, especially within the division. They also may prefer a skater (Simon/Kahun) over Murray since he's going to be an expensive RFA.
TartanBill
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.16.2016

Dec 9 @ 9:06 AM ET
Any observations about the quality of opponent? Presumably Malkin also has to go up against the other teams top defenders with Crosby out.

The trickle down effect is probably a large part of what made HBK such a big thing.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Dec 9 @ 9:19 AM ET
It is rumored Shero is asking for 4 pieces for Hall and potentially a pick. I think Hall is off the list of possible players we trade for with a price as high as it is. I would rather try for someone else at this point.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 9 @ 9:28 AM ET
I wonder if they would let Malkin play with Marino more than Schultz.

I also think McCann could be possibly be that wing I they would like to use him there. Or maybe a combination of Rust and Kahun would be good enough. Truth is we have a lot of unknowns about what our lines can look like if healthy.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 9 @ 9:43 AM ET
Besides Hall, is there any other top'ish notch'ish winger perhaps available?

Both Sid and Geno deserve a stud winger at the same time in their final window years....
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 9 @ 9:44 AM ET
I wonder if they would let Malkin play with Marino more than Schultz.

I also think McCann could be possibly be that wing I they would like to use him there. Or maybe a combination of Rust and Kahun would be good enough. Truth is we have a lot of unknowns about what our lines can look like if healthy.

- Tojo.


Yeah really though...lets see what Kahun can do in the top 6 or leave McCann there for a while, he looked great with Sid last season. Could end up saving a load of assets.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 9 @ 9:48 AM ET
Yeah really though...lets see what Kahun can do in the top 6 or leave McCann there for a while, he looked great with Sid last season. Could end up saving a load of assets.
- MattStrat


Who’s their 3C?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 9 @ 9:54 AM ET
Who’s their 3C?
- j.boyd919



Great question hahah

Teddy?

Any idea whats going on with A. Johnson? because I dont mind him as 4C.

Also, it might be easier to acquire a 3C or 4C than a stud winger. I think with it being not even Christmas yet you can try some stuff before selling the farm and besides, Sid isnt back for a while yet anyway.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Dec 9 @ 10:02 AM ET
What is Geno's faceoff % since Sid went down? He seems to winning a lot lately. It's never been his strong suit. He's currently at 53.65%. Almost 5% better than any previous year. Shorter time frame and he'll probably drop off but it's been noticeable.

Also I think Rust deserves some credit for how that line has played
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 9 @ 10:05 AM ET
Who’s their 3C?
- j.boyd919

If you do that Bjugstad, though Blueger's line gets 3rd line time anyways so it might be better use of McCann as a top 6 wing.

McCann-Crosby-Kahun
Guentzel-Malkin-Rust
Simon-Bjugstad-Hornqvist
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev

Might not work best, but I'd like to experiment with a top six like that to see if we have internal options.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 10:06 AM ET
Besides Hall, is there any other top'ish notch'ish winger perhaps available?

Both Sid and Geno deserve a stud winger at the same time in their final window years....

- MattStrat


Well, you could inquire about Mantha/Bertuzzi in Detroit, or maybe Silfverberg in Anaheim. Price would be super steep, though, especially for the 2 Detroit guys.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 9 @ 10:09 AM ET
Besides Hall, is there any other top'ish notch'ish winger perhaps available?

Both Sid and Geno deserve a stud winger at the same time in their final window years....

- MattStrat

Toffoli, maybe Kreider though Rangers have climbed back into contention. AA in Detroit will be expensive.

Not alot yet until teams drop out. Even then, Hall might be the only top end guy moved.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 9 @ 10:15 AM ET
Toffoli, maybe Kreider though Rangers have climbed back into contention. AA in Detroit will be expensive.

Not alot yet until teams drop out. Even then, Hall might be the only top end guy moved.

- Tojo.



I always felt Toffoli and Pearson were kind of similar.

Just checked in on Pearson in Van...doing pretty good.

I'd love Kreider...dont see it happening.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 9 @ 10:18 AM ET
Well, you could inquire about Mantha/Bertuzzi in Detroit, or maybe Silfverberg in Anaheim. Price would be super steep, though, especially for the 2 Detroit guys.
- jmatchett383


Why would a rebuilding team trade away good quality young cost controlled wingers?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 10:20 AM ET
Why would a rebuilding team trade away good quality young cost controlled wingers?
- MattStrat


"Price would be super steep, though, especially for the 2 Detroit guys."
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 9 @ 10:30 AM ET
Toffoli, maybe Kreider though Rangers have climbed back into contention. AA in Detroit will be expensive.

Not alot yet until teams drop out. Even then, Hall might be the only top end guy moved.

- Tojo.


I’m curious to what Namestnikov would look like with Sid or Geno. He played the 3rd wheel role really well when he was with Tampa next to Stammer and Kuch.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 9 @ 10:30 AM ET
I always felt Toffoli and Pearson were kind of similar.

Just checked in on Pearson in Van...doing pretty good.

I'd love Kreider...dont see it happening.

- MattStrat

Toffoli is a bit better and his possession an ES scoring are both decent.

And yeah, Pearson decided to care this year, just a bad year last year. Figures.

Agree on Kreider, both parts.

They might need to look at internal options if more doesn't become available. A bunch of the bottom teams don't have much in rentals.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
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Dec 9 @ 10:30 AM ET
"Price would be super steep, though, especially for the 2 Detroit guys."
- jmatchett383



Yeah I guess a team could always make an offer they cant refuse...that would the only reason I could see "why".
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
I’m curious to what Namestnikov would look like with Sid or Geno. He played the 3rd wheel role really well when he was with Tampa next to Stammer and Kuch.
- j.boyd919


Thats a pretty good idea. He's on the Sens and UFA with a 3.25 mill cap hit. I highly doubt they resign him. Could probably be obtained with minimal assets.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 9 @ 10:38 AM ET
I’m curious to what Namestnikov would look like with Sid or Geno. He played the 3rd wheel role really well when he was with Tampa next to Stammer and Kuch.
- j.boyd919

He had 15 PP points that year though which would be great if he was a righty, but he's not. 30 otherwise, negative though not bad possession numbers. Seems like an average middle six guy and we are plenty of those. Might be good if they move Bjugstad and want another center though.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 10:41 AM ET
Yeah I guess a team could always make an offer they cant refuse...that would the only reason I could see "why".
- MattStrat


You'd have to probably include Marino and/or a top prospect and/or a handful of picks. Just saying, if you want to go all-in, they could be pried away.
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