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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Dec 8 @ 11:26 PM ET
Jan Levine: Game 29: NYR 5 LV 0, Georgiev brilliant again between the pipes Panarin/Trouba each with a goal and an assist
ELew11
New York Rangers
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Joined: 07.22.2016

Dec 9 @ 1:18 AM ET
Great game. Another shutout by Georgie, points by 12 different guys, 2/5 on the PP, 4/4 on the PK. I will be at the game in Anaheim on Saturday, but there is nothing I want more than a win Tuesday night.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 9 @ 6:31 AM ET
both Georgiev and Shestyrokin had great weekends

I'd really love to know what they are going to do, you can't exactly send Georgie to the AHL when he's playing out of his mind like this.

I'm not exactly a believer that signing Georgie RFA this summer's contract will be low either, Europe could loom for him too if the Rangers lowball him

I grudgingly agree that all these goalies are a good problem to have, but it's definitely a also a problem that isn't going away
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 9 @ 8:06 AM ET
both Georgiev and Shestyrokin had great weekends

I'd really love to know what they are going to do, you can't exactly send Georgie to the AHL when he's playing out of his mind like this.

I'm not exactly a believer that signing Georgie RFA this summer's contract will be low either, Europe could loom for him too if the Rangers lowball him

I grudgingly agree that all these goalies are a good problem to have, but it's definitely a also a problem that isn't going away

- jimbro83



I wonder if Hank's "Illness" is him setting up to become allergic to his gear or something.
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Dec 9 @ 8:08 AM ET
both Georgiev and Shestyrokin had great weekends

I'd really love to know what they are going to do, you can't exactly send Georgie to the AHL when he's playing out of his mind like this.

I'm not exactly a believer that signing Georgie RFA this summer's contract will be low either, Europe could loom for him too if the Rangers lowball him

I grudgingly agree that all these goalies are a good problem to have, but it's definitely a also a problem that isn't going away

- jimbro83


This might be the perfect time to figure it out though. I think most would admit that "contender" status is on the horizon but not quite imminent. If Georgiev keeps performing this way, there might be a few more teams calling.
WineryDog
New York Rangers
Location: VA
Joined: 01.12.2015

Dec 9 @ 9:13 AM ET
Jimbo, what do you think Georgiev would cost? Let's say they give him a 3 or 4 year deal. Just curious.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 9 @ 9:22 AM ET
Jimbo, what do you think Georgiev would cost? Let's say they give him a 3 or 4 year deal. Just curious.
- WineryDog


I think 3 years 10 mil
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 9 @ 9:25 AM ET
I think 3 years 10 mil
- jimbro83



jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 9 @ 9:31 AM ET

- JRR1285


why what do you think?
WineryDog
New York Rangers
Location: VA
Joined: 01.12.2015

Dec 9 @ 9:37 AM ET
I think 3 years 10 mil
- jimbro83


Got it. I would think that's pretty much his market value based on the deals Murray and Vasy got. It would be rough for one year with Henrik's hit, but after that it'd be a great deal. Even better if they could convince him to do 4.

I've watched the Rangers FO screw things up for almost 40 years, so I'm not confident they get this right, but if they can maneuver through next year with BL, ADA, AG, and maybe even RS, then I'll be thoroughly impressed.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Dec 9 @ 9:39 AM ET
why what do you think?
- jimbro83


I have to preface by saying that I surely don't know what they would give him. But, isn't >$3M a little steep for someone they may not even consider a starter?
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 9 @ 9:40 AM ET
why what do you think?
- jimbro83



I'm just joking around.

I actually tried to think about it and while I feel Georgiev fleeing for Europe is a possibility, it is unlikely. I tried determining what the highest paid players/goalies make over there and only the most elite offensive players appear to make concerning money.

The highest paid player in the KHL is at 2.82 Mil USD per year (180 million Rubles). The list went down to 70 million rubles with not one goalie at that amount.

I think between 2 and 2.5 gets it done for Georgiev. They could also play hardball since he won't make anywhere near that over there. Maybe my info is wrong but who knows? The info appears to be potentially inaccurate or misleading since those leagues don't seem as forthcoming with that information.

Cost of living over there also has to be considered.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 9 @ 9:46 AM ET
I'm just joking around.

I actually tried to think about it and while I feel Georgiev fleeing for Europe is a possibility, it is unlikely. I tried determining what the highest paid players/goalies make over there and only the most elite offensive players appear to make concerning money.

The highest paid player in the KHL is at 2.82 Mil USD per year (180 million Rubles). The list went down to 70 million rubles with not one goalie at that amount.

I think between 2 and 2.5 gets it done for Georgiev. They could also play hardball since he won't make anywhere near that over there. Maybe my info is wrong but who knows? The info appears to be potentially inaccurate or misleading since those leagues don't seem as forthcoming with that information.

Cost of living over there also has to be considered.

- JRR1285


I don't think so.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 9 @ 9:47 AM ET
I don't think so.
- mdw7413





Did you stop reading there?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 9 @ 9:50 AM ET


Did you stop reading there?

- JRR1285

Yes
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 9 @ 9:50 AM ET
Got it. I would think that's pretty much his market value based on the deals Murray and Vasy got. It would be rough for one year with Henrik's hit, but after that it'd be a great deal. Even better if they could convince him to do 4.

I've watched the Rangers FO screw things up for almost 40 years, so I'm not confident they get this right, but if they can maneuver through next year with BL, ADA, AG, and maybe even RS, then I'll be thoroughly impressed.

- WineryDog



Keeping all of those players means they must be moving on from Kreider, which I am OK with at this point.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Dec 9 @ 9:51 AM ET
I think 3 years 10 mil
- jimbro83

I figured the same amount, which should be doable, especially if the cap even rises slightly.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 9 @ 9:52 AM ET
I have to preface by saying that I surely don't know what they would give him. But, isn't >$3M a little steep for someone they may not even consider a starter?
- Tonybere


looking at Cam Talbot, he went from 562K to the Rangers, to one year of 1.45 mil with Edmonton and then a 3 year contract of 4.166 mil

different ages but similar circumstances

if Rangers kept Georgie and signed him to one year deal next year for like 1.5 mil that would be great

but they'd also miss out on Shesty's 2nd pro year making entry level $$$

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 9 @ 9:53 AM ET
I figured the same amount, which should be doable, especially if the cap even rises slightly.
- airjan23


its doable for most teams, but kind of crazy that the Rangers will be putting like 11.5 million into the goalie position and neither one of them is Shestyrokin, in a season where they will have to dance around the cap
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 9 @ 10:04 AM ET
looking at Cam Talbot, he went from 562K to the Rangers, to one year of 1.45 mil with Edmonton and then a 3 year contract of 4.166 mil

different ages but similar circumstances

if Rangers kept Georgie and signed him to one year deal next year for like 1.5 mil that would be great

but they'd also miss out on Shesty's 2nd pro year making entry level $$$

- jimbro83



I really think Georgiev simply has to be traded. Shestyorkin is not going to stay in the AHL waiting for Hank to retire. He will leave for the KHL.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 9 @ 10:08 AM ET
I really think Georgiev simply has to be traded. Shestyorkin is not going to stay in the AHL waiting for Hank to retire. He will leave for the KHL.
- JRR1285


no matter how much I go over it, it's the only solution
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 9 @ 10:14 AM ET
no matter how much I go over it, it's the only solution
- jimbro83



I don't particularly like the solution, I have grown to like Georgiev. I fear that the Rangers ship him out and bring in Shestyorkin that busts. Georgiev is in Vezina talks for the next 10 years.

I am sure that might be why he isn't already in Hartford, the front office wants to ride him until the wheels fall off or right into a playoff berth.

He's looking like Matt Murray.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
I don't particularly like the solution, I have grown to like Georgiev. I fear that the Rangers ship him out and bring in Shestyorkin that busts. Georgiev is in Vezina talks for the next 10 years.

I am sure that might be why he isn't already in Hartford, the front office wants to ride him until the wheels fall off or right into a playoff berth.

He's looking like Matt Murray.

- JRR1285


if you worry that there is a chance that Shesty could be a bust, I mean, then you sign Georgiev long term and look into trading Shesty
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
I don't particularly like the solution, I have grown to like Georgiev. I fear that the Rangers ship him out and bring in Shestyorkin that busts. Georgiev is in Vezina talks for the next 10 years.

I am sure that might be why he isn't already in Hartford, the front office wants to ride him until the wheels fall off or right into a playoff berth.

He's looking like Matt Murray.

- JRR1285

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Dec 9 @ 10:32 AM ET
if you worry that there is a chance that Shesty could be a bust, I mean, then you sign Georgiev long term and look into trading Shesty
- jimbro83



But there is the concern. Right now you can't keep both. So you have no idea who is going to pan out. Maybe they are both great and have long productive careers. Maybe everyone Allaire works with turns into an All-Star.

I am in the camp of trade Georgiev and keep Shestyorkin. Fight me.

I don't want to hear anyone bring up Hanks retirement tour or trading him, that poop is not gonna happen. It is at least very unlikely to happen.
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