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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Nov 9 @ 11:07 AM ET
Michael Pachla: On Kucherov's dirty hit and what it might mean for the Sabres
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Nov 9 @ 11:19 AM ET
Sounds like the Sabres have an opening for NHL All-Star John Scott!
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 9 @ 11:21 AM ET
I dont care about not fighting, but obviously I would have like to see them beat the lightning where it counts. On a scale of 1 to "Lucic/Miller Incident," this barely registers. It was also such a weird play, I have a hard time blaming his linemates. Idk, I'm way more concerned that Botterill hasn't assembled anywhere near enough forward talent than perceived softness
fliphockey
Joined: 04.05.2008

Nov 9 @ 11:22 AM ET
The Sabres are a very highly skilled and fast skating team however my concern from the start of the season has been lack of physical players and with no one to "answer the bell" when situations like yesterday occur. Tampa is a larger team with a physical presence. Let's see how today's game goes.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 9 @ 11:25 AM ET
The Sabres are a very highly skilled and fast skating team however my concern from the start of the season has been lack of physical players and with no one to "answer the bell" when situations like yesterday occur. Tampa is a larger team with a physical presence. Let's see how today's game goes.
- fliphockey


Highly debatable
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Nov 9 @ 11:28 AM ET
I dont care about not fighting, but obviously I would have like to see them beat the lightning where it counts. On a scale of 1 to "Lucic/Miller Incident," this barely registers. It was also such a weird play, I have a hard time blaming his linemates. Idk, I'm way more concerned that Botterill hasn't assembled anywhere near enough forward talent than perceived softness
- jcragcrumple

your dudeness, that was a very dirty hit...sure, there's a difference between miller and Sobotka and their value to the team but that hit was up there with the lucic hit
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 9 @ 11:32 AM ET
your dudeness, that was a very dirty hit...sure, there's a difference between miller and Sobotka and their value to the team but that hit was up there with the lucic hit
- Michael Pachla


Idk, I just dont think the two are near the same. One is smoking a goalie, and this is a low, slightly late hit on a forward. Nowhere near as severe imo

I do think Kuch deserved 2 for interference. Hell, risto got 2 for doing less
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Nov 9 @ 11:33 AM ET
I have something to say
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Nov 9 @ 11:35 AM ET
It reminded me of the Miller hit.. When the Sabre's all looked around while RM got run..

You don't have to have a team of goons... but there is a reason Haley still has a job in this league.

It was a nasty hit..
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 9 @ 11:41 AM ET
It reminded me of the Miller hit.. When the Sabre's all looked around while RM got run..

You don't have to have a team of goons... but there is a reason Haley still has a job in this league.

It was a nasty hit..

- dozerD10


Once you start chasing truculence, you doing stupid things like signing Lucic to a 7 year deal, or you trade James Neal for Milan Lucic
bonecrrusher
Buffalo Sabres
Location: QC
Joined: 07.06.2013

Nov 9 @ 11:44 AM ET
I love krueger but enough with the dump and chase already the sabres are always 2nd on the puck or if they are 1st theyre scared along the board which result in a breakout passe we did good at the beginning because no1 had a memo on the coach playing style he has to change it up because we will pick top 5 this year too.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Nov 9 @ 11:47 AM ET
I wouldn’t expect Kuch to be disciplined in any way for his hit on Sobotts. Kuch is a star, Vlad a scrub, and the refs didn’t even find anything wrong with the hit.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 9 @ 11:49 AM ET
It’s not just the failure to respond to the Kuch hit, it’s the (lack of) response they’ve shown all season to HEAVY play and opponents coming in physically - in violation of the rules or cleanly. If you want to get this team off their game and out of the style they play well, hit them hard a few times and rather than stadi g up to it and imposing their will on the other team, the Sabres will try to adjust away from it, leaving their own best gameplay in the process.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Nov 9 @ 11:58 AM ET
Team toughness.

I want to see it today. Every time that dirty Russkie touches it today, there better be someone hitting him or leaning on him today.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Nov 9 @ 12:01 PM ET
It’s not just the failure to respond to the Kuch hit, it’s the (lack of) response they’ve shown all season to HEAVY play and opponents coming in physically - in violation of the rules or cleanly. If you want to get this team off their game and out of the style they play well, hit them hard a few times and rather than stadi g up to it and imposing their will on the other team, the Sabres will try to adjust away from it, leaving their own best gameplay in the process.
- Der Kaiser



This right here is the reason Ducks were able to beat Sabre's -
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Nov 9 @ 12:01 PM ET
Team toughness.

I want to see it today. Every time that dirty Russkie touches it today, there better be someone hitting him or leaning on him today.

- Powerslave

I just can’t picture that happening.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Nov 9 @ 12:02 PM ET
Once you start chasing truculence, you doing stupid things like signing Lucic to a 7 year deal, or you trade James Neal for Milan Lucic
- jcragcrumple



Easy there tiger... Having a guy that can play and protect is a big difference than signing or trading for numb skulls like Lucic.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Nov 9 @ 12:04 PM ET
I bet Krueger will get a much better effort out of the team today than yesterday. Sabres get their mojo back and Dahlin will have a monster game imo.

Sabres 4
Bolts 3

Dahlin the ot winner.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Nov 9 @ 12:04 PM ET
I just can’t picture that happening.
- PrinceChill


I can't either, unfortunately. 😞
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Nov 9 @ 12:06 PM ET
Team toughness.

I want to see it today. Every time that dirty Russkie touches it today, there better be someone hitting him or leaning on him today.

- Powerslave


Last year during the streak, that's exactly what the Sabres did and it worked.

(Also our goalie played lights-out that game).
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Nov 9 @ 12:09 PM ET
I bet Krueger will get a much better effort out of the team today than yesterday. Sabres get their mojo back and Dahlin will have a monster game imo.

Sabres 4
Bolts 3

Dahlin the ot winner.

- LandlordTom

Been waiting all month for that “better effort”. Although in a week, they play the Sens. That might be when the effort improvement makes an appearance.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 9 @ 12:10 PM ET
Easy there tiger... Having a guy that can play and protect is a big difference than signing or trading for numb skulls like Lucic.
- dozerD10


I'm just saying, this isn't 1982 anymore, or even 2011. I'd rather see them go out there and try to score than chase Kuch around because of a questionable hit. It's a waste of energy
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 9 @ 12:12 PM ET
I wouldn’t expect Kuch to be disciplined in any way for his hit on Sobotts. Kuch is a star, Vlad a scrub, and the refs didn’t even find anything wrong with the hit.
- PrinceChill



He won't be because it's the NHL

Same reason Crosby wasn't suspended from almost taking Methot's finger off a few years ago.

But the hit itself was extremely late, dirty, and low.

Again we are questioning the lack of response from the Sabres here, it's nothing new

You don't need a guy like John Scott to stand up for his teammates, give me a Drew Stafford response to when Neil took out Drury.

That's a team that had tightness and willingness to do battle with the guy sitting next to them.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 9 @ 12:12 PM ET
I'm just saying, this isn't 1982 anymore, or even 2011. I'd rather see them go out there and try to score than chase Kuch around because of a questionable hit. It's a waste of energy
- jcragcrumple



You don't chase him around, you handle it right then and there.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 9 @ 12:18 PM ET
He won't be because it's the NHL

Same reason Crosby wasn't suspended from almost taking Methot's finger off a few years ago.

But the hit itself was extremely late, dirty, and low.

Again we are questioning the lack of response from the Sabres here, it's nothing new

You don't need a guy like John Scott to stand up for his teammates, give me a Drew Stafford response to when Neil took out Drury.

That's a team that had tightness and willingness to do battle with the guy sitting next to them.

- Stripes77


This hit wasn't on that level. Sabres fans are just fixated on truculence imo
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