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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 9 @ 10:00 AM ET
The only real "skill" guys who are slighter who don't need to hit as much are Brock and Petey – even though Petey does. Everyone else in the lineup should be using their weight. Bo, Pearson, JV, Leivo are all bigger bodies who should play a bit heavier.
- NewYorkNuck
look 10 posts up
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 9 @ 10:05 AM ET
I don't think we'll be able to count on Ferland too much, but with Roussel and maybe another piece along the way they'll figure it out at some point. Miller the new guy leading by example. I wish Bo had more of a nasty streak.
- VanHockeyGuy

Give Ferland as much time as he needs to sort his head out. Petey and his skinny frame has shown it's not too hard if you are willing.

Brock's the worst, goes in there and you think he should hit the guy instead wraps his arm around him and with one hand on the stick, pokes at the puck.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 9 @ 10:05 AM ET
The only real "skill" guys who are slighter who don't need to hit as much are Brock and Petey – even though Petey does. Everyone else in the lineup should be using their weight. Bo, Pearson, JV, Leivo are all bigger bodies who should play a bit heavier.
- NewYorkNuck


That's what we're talking about, it's not in their makeup though.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 9 @ 10:08 AM ET
That's what we're talking about, it's not in their makeup though.
- VanHockeyGuy


Can teach that into them. Not expecting them to run around, but can set them up for a few more hits a game. I felt in the first few games they were doing that much more, causing a lot more offensive zone turnovers.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 9 @ 10:11 AM ET
Can teach that into them. Not expecting them to run around, but can set them up for a few more hits a game. I felt in the first few games they were doing that much more, causing a lot more offensive zone turnovers.
- NewYorkNuck


I don't think so. If this team has playoff aspirations, they have some fine tuning to do.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 10:30 AM ET
No....I saw the system used before and it's clear to me the players aren't playing the system now. Very clear.
Constantly out of position. No organized play now

- SMBDragon

Yep you talked about defensive lapses a few threads back. Old Habits and Markstrom as well. Getting away from his coaching. They'll get out of it but it takes time.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
Did you not see the penalty call on Beagle last night?

Canucks will make the playoffs by a single point, get knocked out first round. TB drafting 16th and the 15th place team will win the draft lottery.

#Canuckluck

- manvanfan

lol maybe next year. Here's the difference:

Canucks - 'We have a great chance to take the division lead vs a very bad Black Hawks team'...blown out.

Oilers - 'NJ is in town so we will blow them out to maintain the division lead'.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
Pearson is garbage.
- Marwood

*Not being used properly.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 10:38 AM ET
I don't think so. If this team has playoff aspirations, they have some fine tuning to do.
- VanHockeyGuy

Start by packing up Tanev-Edler.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 9 @ 10:42 AM ET
lol maybe next year. Here's the difference:

Canucks - 'We have a great chance to take the division lead vs a very bad Black Hawks team'...blown out.

Oilers - 'NJ is in town so we will blow them out to maintain the division lead'.


- LordHumungous

5 out next 7 games vs the central division. Big heavy teams. Sink or swim.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 9 @ 10:44 AM ET
Start by packing up Tanev-Edler.


- LordHumungous

What does it take? Two worse contracts?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 9 @ 10:53 AM ET
I think sending Loui down is a mistake. Canucks send him to Utica and save a mil in cap space and replace him with a 600 K forward that won't make a difference. Keep Loui in the press box and when you are ready to bring in Tryamkin or someone else Loui goes on LTIR freeing up 6 mil.

Motte does bring energy to the fourth line and you can see it missing.

Keep Jake with Bo and stop playing him like a yoyo. Add Roussel to Bo's line .

Sven should be sent to Utica at least he is useful there.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 10:54 AM ET
What does it take? Two worse contracts?
- manvanfan

We'd have to take back two bad contracts if moving them?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
I think sending Loui down is a mistake. Canucks send him to Utica and save a mil in cap space and replace him with a 600 K forward that won't make a difference. Keep Loui in the press box and when you are ready to bring in Tryamkin or someone else Loui goes on LTIR freeing up 6 mil.

Motte does bring energy to the fourth line and you can see it missing.

Keep Jake with Bo and stop playing him like a yoyo. Add Roussel to Bo's line .

Sven should be sent to Utica at least he is useful there.

- VANTEL


Agree with all, except with Sven. Would like to play him until Roussel is back, hopefully to up his trade value, then get something in return if you can. If he's not going to be a useful call up player, may as well get a pick. One game is hard to judge him on, give him a couple more to see if that plan can pan out.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
*Not being used properly.
- LordHumungous

Fire Green.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 9 @ 11:00 AM ET
*Not being used properly.
- LordHumungous


Fair point.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 9 @ 11:01 AM ET
Fire Green.
- Marwood

🤣🏴‍☠️
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 9 @ 11:09 AM ET
Agree with all, except with Sven. Would like to play him until Roussel is back, hopefully to up his trade value, then get something in return if you can. If he's not going to be a useful call up player, may as well get a pick. One game is hard to judge him on, give him a couple more to see if that plan can pan out.
- NewYorkNuck


Burkie brought up a very interesting comment 2 days ago. Who the hell are going to trade for these players you want to move. There are only 8 teams that can afford his 3.3 mil cap hit. Most of those teams are bottom feeders and have a full roster of Svens. Pretty much the same reason as Brodie in CGY most teams can't afford them or don't want them.

Sven is pretty well assigned to Canucks or Comets and he is more useful there. We have many third liners as someone else pointed out earlier.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Nov 9 @ 11:35 AM ET
lol maybe next year. Here's the difference:

Canucks - 'We have a great chance to take the division lead vs a very bad Black Hawks team'...blown out.

Oilers - 'NJ is in town so we will blow them out to maintain the division lead'.


- LordHumungous

Hawks game wasn't a blowout, it was 2 to1 with less than 10 minutes left, the oilers will crumble yet its still early.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 11:41 AM ET
Hawks game wasn't a blowout, it was 2 to1 with less than 10 minutes left, the oilers will crumble yet its still early.
- Bettmanhatesus

lol
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Nov 9 @ 11:46 AM ET
lol
- LordHumungous

Tippet hockey works for awhile, he is an old school coach. Why wasn't he hired before the coilers hired him?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 9 @ 11:56 AM ET
Burkie brought up a very interesting comment 2 days ago. Who the hell are going to trade for these players you want to move. There are only 8 teams that can afford his 3.3 mil cap hit. Most of those teams are bottom feeders and have a full roster of Svens. Pretty much the same reason as Brodie in CGY most teams can't afford them or don't want them.

Sven is pretty well assigned to Canucks or Comets and he is more useful there. We have many third liners as someone else pointed out earlier.

- VANTEL

There are many 3rd liners in the league, just hope when you are going for a cup those 3rd liners are having their best season ever.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 9 @ 12:02 PM ET
There are many 3rd liners in the league, just hope when you are going for a cup those 3rd liners are having their best season ever.
- manvanfan



Yup . My point is not many teams will be inquiring about Sven. Possible buyout candidate next year.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Nov 9 @ 12:06 PM ET
Yep you talked about defensive lapses a few threads back. Old Habits and Markstrom as well. Getting away from his coaching. They'll get out of it but it takes time.
- LordHumungous

I wonder if it's a silent protest of LE getting ice time over better players. I dont know how likely that is but it did start at that time.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 9 @ 12:11 PM ET
I wonder if it's a silent protest of LE getting ice time over better players. I dont know how likely that is but it did start at that time.
- SMBDragon



So you think Canucks intentionally threw a chance at first place in solidarity of Loui getting the call over Sven.

Not one of your best takes big fella
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