it makes me happy that G is getting back into being a C for sure, especially if Patrick doesn't come back. Neurological issues are so unpredictable, who knows what will happen.

If Patrick does come back though, what would you do with the lines? personally, I would move Hayes back up with G and Farabee, obv keep the 2nd line in tact, and have Patrick centering JVR andVvoracek.

Thats is such a stacked top 9 it's absurd. that 3rd line should dominate puck possession against lesser competition. And even a 4th line of Raffl-Laughton-Twarynski/Pitlick/Vorobyev would stack up real well. on paper may be the best forward corps since 2010
- sjk540

I loved the Hayes Voracek JVR line, they completed dominated (well it was a preseason game) but they seemed like they had a good scoring chance nearly every shift

Did anyone else enjoy seeing Claude Julien nearly bust an artery last night...?

I also thought in spite of the PP total advantages the Habs got away with a lot that would have been called otherwise ( human pity factor)
- RajaAmpat

I was waiting for a call if a Flyer breathed on a Hab. Hard to believe there was not even a phantom call

No I never said this, please show me where I did. here's a hint, you won't find it, cause I didn't



- sjk540

Sure you did. You responded to a post about the head coach using ice time as a tool in player development and suggesting that assistant coaches were working with a young player independently of the head coach. You were ridiculously trying to remove Hakstol from the premise. Whether directly or indirectly.

what i said was the developments of players don't necessarily come hand in hand with the head coach. sure the coaching staff in general, but somewhere at some time a young kid developed just fine and it had nothing to do with the head coach. see what you do is twist the narrative of people then use your shtick to say it's hilarious or ridiculous or whatever your magic 8 ball comes up with.

Ill say it again, it's tired.
- sjk540

I don't twist anything. What I do is stand behind what I say. You've made a number of disqualifying statements in this conversation. From trying to remove Hakstol from the premise to numerous false statements concerning numbers.

when will i learn my lesson to not debate with the wall that is MJL. its like gambling, when i think im out they pull me right back in
- sjk540

If you come to the conversation with something real rather than disqualifying and false statements, you'll find there is not as much of a wall as you think there is.

Myers was incredible last night; constantly shutting someone down, hawking the loose puck, and seemed to be a regular threat in the attacking zone.

Side note, did anyone else think last night was Ghost's best game of the season so far? He seemed far more confident, akin to his old self
- GrittySauce

I think Ghost’s play has been steadily trending in the good direction the last several games

I feel really bad for Morin, good kid. Unfortunately, this injury continues to highlight one of the worst picks in Flyers history. They took him way too high in an absolutely stacked draft. There aren't too many players, if any, in the first 45 or more picks that haven't been better than him...even during the brief time he has been healthy. Ironically that was the first pick of our rebuild.

It certainly isn't his fault, he has always tried hard and seems to be a fine, hard working young man. Don't see any way that he ever becomes the player we were hoping he would be. I wish him luck but it doesn't look good.

I re watched Twarynski’s shift that led up to Myer’s goal. He was a forechecking beast, outworked Weber on the boards, and kept the puck alive behind the net keeping the attack going. Then got to the front of the net to screen Price on the eventual goal.

What a great shift for #81.

Both Provorov and Gostisbehere had their best NHL seasons as young players playing under Hakstol! The numbers don't lie. Konecny had his best statistical jump in the NHL under Hakstol. The numbers don't lie!

You don't have anything here but ramble!
- MJL

Ghost and Provy had their worst seasons as pros under Hak, so what does that tell us?

TK and Hak
Statistical jump from rookie - almost common by all players
Stagnant 2nd to 3rd year - great Development by Hak
New coaching under AV - best start of season by a landslide

What a job by Hakstol...

I re watched Twarynski’s shift that led up to Myer’s goal. He was a forechecking beast, outworked Weber on the boards, and kept the puck alive behind the net keeping the attack going. Then got to the front of the net to screen Price on the eventual goal.

What a great shift for #81.
- Marc D

Correct but he did look pretty nervous on his penalty shot though, trying to replicate Giroux's slapshot from the last game!!
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Correct but he did look pretty nervous on his penalty shot though, trying to replicate Giroux's slapshot from the last game!!

- Daceroni[/img]

tough spot taking a penalty shot vs Price who nearly stole the game for the Habs

From what I heard he wasnt doing anything at the time of injury. He just went down.

Flanders thing is from the simpsons. Much better to just look it up rather than me fail at explaining it. Just google "Flanders nothing at all"
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

At least you tried. 🤷🏾‍♂️

I re watched Twarynski’s shift that led up to Myer’s goal. He was a forechecking beast, outworked Weber on the boards, and kept the puck alive behind the net keeping the attack going. Then got to the front of the net to screen Price on the eventual goal.

What a great shift for #81.
- Marc D

Yeah, he's bringing a lot of the energy, grits and "little things" that we were supposed to expect out of Stewart and Pitlick.

tough spot taking a penalty shot vs Price who nearly stole the game for the Habs
- Marc D

I'd much rather him come in and try to blow one by him than shoot 5 hole or some pathetic deke. That shootout for the Leafs there were some piss poor attempts, JVR and Jakes come to mind.

Newest Therien's Take

https://www.nhl.com/flyer...elphia-flyers/c-311050234

19 year old Konecny vs Farabee today.

Farabee is noticeable in a positive way every time he’s on the ice. Farabee earned being on the top line. If Farabee is this good right now, this is kid that actually might be a legitimate sniper/super star much sooner than later.

Konecny was always a good player but his attention to detail wasn’t great. I never noticed Konecny cutting off passing lanes. I felt like Konecny cheated out of the zone a bit and didn’t pay attention to defense. He deserves to be benched when he was.

TK and Hak
Statistical jump from rookie - almost common by all players
Stagnant 2nd to 3rd year - great Development by Hak
New coaching under AV - best start of season by a landslide

What a job by Hakstol...
- ClaudeFather

So in other words, when they had success under Hakstol, nothing to do with Hakstol. When they struggled, that's on Hakstol. Thank you for proving my point. Nothing further I need to add.

19 year old Konecny vs Farabee today.

Farabee is noticeable in a positive way every time he’s on the ice. Farabee earned being on the top line. If Farabee is this good right now, this is kid that actually might be a legitimate sniper/super star much sooner than later.

Konecny was always a good player but his attention to detail wasn’t great. I never noticed Konecny cutting off passing lanes. I felt like Konecny cheated out of the zone a bit and didn’t pay attention to defense. He deserves to be benched when he was.
- SuperSchennBros

Very small sample size, although I agree he looks good, positive impact all the way around. You are also understating Konecny, last two years over 20 goals and vast majority at even strength.

tough spot taking a penalty shot vs Price who nearly stole the game for the Habs
- Marc D

Ya first penalty shot of your career against arguably the best goalie in the game right now!

So in other words, when they had success under Hakstol, nothing to do with Hakstol. When they struggled, that's on Hakstol. Thank you for proving my point. Nothing further I need to add.
- MJL

It was more of just contradicting your idiotic post of saying Ghost and Provy had their best seasons but also not acknowledging their horrible seasons under him. He was a bad coach and not some developmental super star, he was Crapstol.

It was more of just contradicting your idiotic post of saying Ghost and Provy had their best seasons but also not acknowledging their horrible seasons under him. He was a bad coach and not some developmental super star, he was Crapstol.
- ClaudeFather

Boy, you missed this badly. It's comical. My post of both players having their best seasons under Hakstol was simply to counter another poster who stated that all the young players regressed under Hakstol and the numbers don't lie. How can you miss this that badly? His statements were factually untrue and my replies proved that. Yet, you somehow deem it to be idiotic. That doesn't reflect on you well.
Your failure to recognize that Hakstol was a good development coach can only be due to an uninformed bias. I'm able to look at both the bad and the good of Hakstol in his tenure here.

Boy, you missed this badly. It's comical. My post of both players having their best seasons under Hakstol was simply to counter another poster who stated that all the young players regressed under Hakstol and the numbers don't lie. How can you miss this that badly? His statements were factually untrue and my replies proved that. Yet, you somehow deem it to be idiotic. That doesn't reflect on you well.
Your failure to recognize that Hakstol was a good development coach can only be due to an uninformed bias. I'm able to look at both the bad and the good of Hakstol in his tenure here.
- MJL

You are just talking yourself in circles, his tenure was inconsistent garbage and two of our best defenders ended up regressing in horrible fashion, but keep telling yourself he was a great developmental coach.

You are just talking yourself in circles, his tenure was inconsistent garbage and two of our best defenders ended up regressing in horrible fashion, but keep telling yourself he was a great developmental coach.
- ClaudeFather

I'm talking so much in circles that you can't do anything to refute my statements.

I'm talking so much in circles that you can't do anything to refute my statements.

- MJL

his tenure was inconsistent garbage and two of our best defenders ended up regressing in horrible fashion, but keep telling yourself he was a great developmental coach. still waiting for the rebuttal..

The Cure went to poop after Disintegration
- hereticpride

That album is so fantastic. Perfectly titled. At the time I actually thought it was to be their final album. Hands down their best album, imho.

That said, imho, Bloodflowers has some good tunes, and I do like 2004's self-titled album.