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BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 12:56 PM ET


8X8

Next year we will ice a 17 man roster. No backup goalie, 4 d, 12 forwards. Like my beer league...!

- Hockey_Reverend


In my beer league we're lucky to have 3 subs per side
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 7 @ 12:57 PM ET
I wouldn't argue with you or Rick on this one. As much as I have liked many of the things Dubas has done, failing to upgrade the backup position is on him - especially when you consider they want to allocate 20 - 25 starts to that position. He rolled the dice on Sparks - and that was a gamble most would have and felt should have been taken. Looking at how Pickard played afterwards doesn't seem to be much of a loss, but McElhinney would have been better last year. This year his .899 svp and 3.94 GAA is positively Sparksian.

When you get into the $700 - $750k range, the options available were really no better than what we have in Hutchinson. Would Johnson be better? Did they give up Neuvirth too easily? I don't know. Even with some savings, there are very few options available up to the $1.5m range -- but it should have been addressed.

- Monkeypunk


The cap space available to sign a backup goaltender was definetely an issue.

Ideally you'd either have a young goaltender in the ranks to take that spot (Sparks tried and failed) or sign a cheap UFA.

Looking around the league, plenty of teams found decent backup between 1.75 and 2.5M. I guess you needed to go to that range to make a "safer" bet on a backup goaltender.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Grimsby, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 7 @ 12:57 PM ET
I wouldn't argue with you or Rick on this one. As much as I have liked many of the things Dubas has done, failing to upgrade the backup position is on him - especially when you consider they want to allocate 20 - 25 starts to that position. He rolled the dice on Sparks - and that was a gamble most would have and felt should have been taken. Looking at how Pickard played afterwards doesn't seem to be much of a loss, but McElhinney would have been better last year. This year his .899 svp and 3.94 GAA is positively Sparksian.

When you get into the $700 - $750k range, the options available were really no better than what we have in Hutchinson. Would Johnson be better? Did they give up Neuvirth too easily? I don't know. Even with some savings, there are very few options available up to the $1.5m range -- but it should have been addressed.

- Monkeypunk

I was under the impression Neuvirth, himself, gave up too easily...
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: i've seen players better than marner never even get a shot to play in the nhl - LeafnsNxt2Godlyns
Joined: 04.03.2013

Nov 7 @ 12:58 PM ET
In my beer league we're lucky to have 3 subs per side
- BestRapperAlive

How does that math work for all of you doms?
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 12:58 PM ET
The cap space available to sign a backup goaltender was definetely an issue.

Ideally you'd either have a young goaltender in the ranks to take that spot (Sparks tried and failed) or sign a cheap UFA.

Looking around the league, plenty of teams found decent backup between 1.75 and 2.5M. I guess you needed to go to that range to make a "safer" bet on a backup goaltender.

- Scabeh


don't worry, Ander5en is rounding into form, he can play every game from here on out
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
it will be hilarious if either are actually claimed....


if Marincin is claimed... I'm popping a celebratory beer right away!

- BorjeFan4Ever

I'm 100% certain Marincin will get claimed
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
Honestly hope they keep Spezza. Guy had a good game the other night, scoring the shootout goal and more. He seems to have some JAM as well. Good mentor for our young guys... Shore will never be more then what he is, a KHL marginal NHLer. Do we really care that much about him winning faceoffs...

When HYman is back we dont need shore to kill penalties.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
How does that math work for all of you doms?
- RickJames77


I tried my best but I can't make any sense of this comment
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:01 PM ET
I'm 100% certain Marincin will get claimed
- walshyleafsfan


Bold prediction





What about Petan
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 7 @ 1:02 PM ET
Bold prediction





What about Petan

- Hockey_Reverend

Nah. No one wants Petan. The league isn't going that way, just the Leafs
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:04 PM ET
Honestly hope they keep Spezza. Guy had a good game the other night, scoring the shootout goal and more. He seems to have some JAM as well. Good mentor for our young guys... Shore will never be more then what he is, a KHL marginal NHLer. Do we really care that much about him winning faceoffs...

When HYman is back we dont need shore to kill penalties.

- Hockey_Reverend


Agree, I don't even know how it's a question to keep spezza or shore...

spezza could play left handed and blindfolded and still be the better player
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:04 PM ET
Nah. No one wants Petan. The league isn't going that way, just the Leafs
- walshyleafsfan




Future KHL star, Nic Petan
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:07 PM ET


Future KHL star, Nic Petan

- Hockey_Reverend


Exactly. Did you see him pass the puck to no-one in the offensive zone, like 6 times? And then get fed over and over from marner and miss the net?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: add all u want but u will never win. torotno curse is alive. basketbal is king. another 52 years bef
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 7 @ 1:09 PM ET
Marincin and Petan on waivers

Holy poop. This is HUGE. Front page TSN website news.

Domino city. What will we ever do now...

- Hockey_Reverend

Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 7 @ 1:09 PM ET
I was under the impression Neuvirth, himself, gave up too easily...
- mjones242


That was my impression as well. He chose not to play in a preseason game while on a PTO. That pretty much precludes him. Maybe there was more to it - maybe there was a realization that the max contract would be $700k - who knows. Really, you're on a PTO playing against guys who already have contracts, you'd better impress.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:10 PM ET
Exactly. Did you see him pass the puck to no-one in the offensive zone, like 6 times? And then get fed over and over from marner and miss the net?
- BestRapperAlive


Yes, I did notice a nice pass into the slot. None of our players were around and the offensive pressure ended... FAIL
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:10 PM ET
[quote=AdamFrench]


That must be Babcock when he heard the news
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Nov 7 @ 1:11 PM ET
It is likely he will.

Marincin
Shore
Spezza

Is who I'd be forced to waive.

Good chance Babs goes with:

Marincin
Spezza
Timashov

Cause of Shore's faceoff winning abilities and PK.

But in all honesty I don't care who gets waived. I just want to see Hyman back in the lineup and get that JT line back to a top 5 line In the NHL.

- LeafGuy89


Marincin and forward Petan on waivers Thursday according to TSN.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:12 PM ET
Marincin and forward Petan on waivers Thursday according to TSN.
- zazzle


Welcome to the party

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:13 PM ET

4-2 Leafs tonight.
Couple more highlight reel goals.
That Nylander goal was niiiice
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Joseph Woll - starting goalie Leafs 2020-2021 season
Joined: 04.23.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:14 PM ET
Hyman is a gud pro
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
Hyman is a gud pro
- MaximusAurelius


Is he thick though, that is the question

BABSCHLONG
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: add all u want but u will never win. torotno curse is alive. basketbal is king. another 52 years bef
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
Hyman is a gud pro
- MaximusAurelius

Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
4-2 Leafs tonight.
Couple more highlight reel goals.
That Nylander goal was niiiice

- BestRapperAlive


Subban in net. He will either play the game of his life and shutout the BUDS or we will win big...
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 7 @ 1:20 PM ET
In my beer league we're lucky to have 3 subs per side
- BestRapperAlive


That is a good night, usually have 10-11 skaters. Thats not bad when you are playing d, you can get in a rhythm, but 2 lines on forward is hard after the first period...
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