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TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 18 @ 5:17 PM ET
With all the cap savings from Byfuglien, the Jets should do the unthinkable and offer sheet Brayden Point.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 18 @ 5:17 PM ET
Roslovic & a 2nd for Brodie. He's LS but plays his best on the right side. Reasonable salary, especially if you get rid of Buffs salary hit, leaves you guys lots of room. Brodie can play PP. Hamonic is well liked for his community charity work & I think Flames would like to get him to extend at a reasonable cost. But I would imagine Roslovic & a lottery protected first would get you Hamonic. You know Hammy would resign for reasonable to play in Winnipeg.
- Kevin R


I think your asking for a bit much, Roslovic alone should get either.

Hamonic has in the past expressed interest in playing here, if not extended by Calgary it’s very possible he signs here next year for free.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 18 @ 5:17 PM ET
With all the cap savings from Byfuglien, the Jets should do the unthinkable and offer sheet Brayden Point.
- TheUltimateJet


This I like and agree with
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Sep 18 @ 5:20 PM ET
As I was saying - maybe - Dahlin, Reinhart and Cozens = Laine and prospect? One problem, Dahlin is a lefty, maybe play the right?

Do you think Morrissey gets the "A" tonight or do they wait until the regular season?

- grahamzky


Oh god why doesn’t buffalo just throw in Eichel as well, that is a ridiculous trade, jets get the best player in the deal while dealing from a position of weakness....makes sense.
lonnyBohonos
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 02.02.2017

Sep 18 @ 5:23 PM ET
With all the cap savings from Byfuglien, the Jets should do the unthinkable and offer sheet Brayden Point.
- TheUltimateJet


I'm a born and raised Winnipegger, love the city. But do you really think Point would sign an offer sheet to go from Tampa to Winnipeg?
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 18 @ 5:24 PM ET
I'm a born and raised Winnipegger, love the city. But do you really think Point would sign an offer sheet to go from Tampa to Winnipeg?
- lonnyBohonos

Money talks!

Wheeler lives in Florida in the off-season, Point could do the same.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 18 @ 5:25 PM ET
He's an Oilers fan
- jcragcrumple


Oh sorry, thought he was a Sabre man.

Maybe it was Peter Chiarelli (thinking he was still GM?)
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 18 @ 5:29 PM ET
Oh god why doesn’t buffalo just throw in Eichel as well, that is a ridiculous trade, jets get the best player in the deal while dealing from a position of weakness....makes sense.
- Sabres1523

What position of weakness? Laine can’t go anywhere unless he signs an offer sheet. Teams have all the controll over these RFA’s I’d say the team that has missed the playoffs for as long as Buffalo has will always be the team in position of weakness until proven otherwise. Jets can lose their entire D from last year and still finish with more points than Buffalo, possibly
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 18 @ 5:29 PM ET
No we hate it significantly more. Dahlin posted 6 less points as a rookie on a terrible team vs a 3rd year forward with a contract problem at best, personality problem at worst. Dahlin for Laine isn't even remotely close, let alone adding.

Gotta love the "Your proposal sucks, let me top it" approach. Works every time

- SDSabre



Fight fire with fire, right?

But seriously, you're right - Dahlin is an exceptional player, I wouldn't trade him either. If the GM does, he should get run out of town.
Jetter
Joined: 02.21.2019

Sep 18 @ 5:31 PM ET
Brodie or Hamonic for an unprotected 1st would be my offer.
- DEDDIE


How about pick up Hamonic in July 2020 for nothing! Keep both the first and prospect and sign Hamonic as an UFA.

I realize this doesn’t help now but I truly believe this year will be a wash. Byfuglien about to retire, 1 regular d-man left, rfa’s out until THEY decide to sign for the current offer or sit out a whole year.
The summer of Chevy has been a complete bust and I don’t expect any different throughout the year.

At least the young players on this team will get the chance to play a lot this year.

Never would have thought we could pull an Ottawa but here we are 1 year after conference finals. Window completely shut!
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 18 @ 5:37 PM ET
Oh god why doesn’t buffalo just throw in Eichel as well, that is a ridiculous trade, jets get the best player in the deal while dealing from a position of weakness....makes sense.
- Sabres1523


Easy to criticize. So bud, what's your offer for Laine, should you want him? Go ahead, make an offer, and I'll let you know what I think, ok?

Weakness - Wings?
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Sep 18 @ 5:38 PM ET
What position of weakness? Laine can’t go anywhere unless he signs an offer sheet. Teams have all the controll over these RFA’s I’d say the team that has missed the playoffs for as long as Buffalo has will always be the team in position of weakness until proven otherwise. Jets can lose their entire D from last year and still finish with more points than Buffalo, possibly
- Ross77


They can’t go into the season without laine and Connor signed imo, you guys could also use a couple dmen to round out the top six, that’s weakness, buffalos record has nothing to do with trades, perhaps signing ufas but has no bearing on their stance in trades.
With buff now also looking like he will not be available to start the season, the jets will most likely need to make moves to upgrade the teams back end.
Just my opinion you don’t have to agree I doubt Chevy wants this to turn into a nylander type situation where both of those RFAs are missing significant time during the regular season.
Laine doesn’t have to go anywhere to hurt the jets if he’s not playing he’s hurting them, the jets need laine way more than laine needs the jets.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 18 @ 5:39 PM ET
How about pick up Hamonic in July 2020 for nothing! Keep both the first and prospect and sign Hamonic as an UFA.

I realize this doesn’t help now but I truly believe this year will be a wash. Byfuglien about to retire, 1 regular d-man left, rfa’s out until THEY decide to sign for the current offer or sit out a whole year.
The summer of Chevy has been a complete bust and I don’t expect any different throughout the year.

At least the young players on this team will get the chance to play a lot this year.

Never would have thought we could pull an Ottawa but here we are 1 year after conference finals. Window completely shut!

- Jetter


Jets moves in chronological order:

1. Sign Brayden Point to an offer sheet.

2. Sign Kyle Connor.

3. Trade Patrik Laine to either Detroit or Carolina

Possible trades being:

To DET: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Evgeny Svechnikov, Andreas Athanasiou, Madison Bowey

Or

To CAR: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Brett Pesce, Andre Svechnikov
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Sep 18 @ 5:41 PM ET
Easy to criticize. So bud, what's your offer for Laine, should you want him? Go ahead, make an offer, and I'll let you know what I think, ok?

Weakness - Wings?

- grahamzky


With the Sabres cap situation I’m not sure I’d want to trade for him in the first place, he’s an awesome talent but we also have Reinhart needing anew deal this offseason and dahlin will need one the next.

I would offer Risto, 1st round pick Sheary and a prospect, not saying that’s fair value but that’s what my offer would be.
Your trade offer basically strips Buffalo of most of their high end talent minus jack that doesn’t make any sense from a Sabres standpoint.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Sep 18 @ 5:51 PM ET
Jets moves in chronological order:

1. Sign Brayden Point to an offer sheet.

2. Sign Kyle Connor.

3. Trade Patrik Laine to either Detroit or Carolina

Possible trades being:

To DET: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Evgeny Svechnikov, Andreas Athanasiou, Madison Bowey

Or

To CAR: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Brett Pesce, Andre Svechnikov

- TheUltimateJet



A is a sensible response for sure but I'm not sure CAR would do Svechnikov straight up.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 18 @ 5:51 PM ET
With the Sabres cap situation I’m not sure I’d want to trade for him in the first place, he’s an awesome talent but we also have Reinhart needing anew deal this offseason and dahlin will need one the next.

I would offer Risto, 1st round pick Sheary and a prospect, not saying that’s fair value but that’s what my offer would be.
Your trade offer basically strips Buffalo of most of their high end talent minus jack that doesn’t make any sense from a Sabres standpoint.

- Sabres1523



Your thinking re Reinhart and Dahlin makes sense. Not sure some GM's (not talking Chevy) think that far ahead. The Wild have major issues for one.

Your offer is turned down. You'll have to keep Risto. I just have to believe there are better offers out there - maybe not from the Sabres though.

DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Sep 18 @ 5:54 PM ET
How about pick up Hamonic in July 2020 for nothing! Keep both the first and prospect and sign Hamonic as an UFA.

I realize this doesn’t help now but I truly believe this year will be a wash. Byfuglien about to retire, 1 regular d-man left, rfa’s out until THEY decide to sign for the current offer or sit out a whole year.
The summer of Chevy has been a complete bust and I don’t expect any different throughout the year.

At least the young players on this team will get the chance to play a lot this year.

Never would have thought we could pull an Ottawa but here we are 1 year after conference finals. Window completely shut!

- Jetter


I get your point and reluctance but do you really think Chevy will go into the season with your current D? That's suicide in the central division.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 18 @ 6:00 PM ET
A is a sensible response for sure but I'm not sure CAR would do Svechnikov straight up.
- DEDDIE

DEDDIE in these parts Laine is a generational talent. Carolina should be lucky that the Jets will not ask for more.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 18 @ 6:01 PM ET
I get your point and reluctance but do you really think Chevy will go into the season with your current D? That's suicide in the central division.
- DEDDIE

You are underestimating the genius known as Paul Maurice...

I can’t even type that seriously
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 18 @ 6:02 PM ET
Jets moves in chronological order:

1. Sign Brayden Point to an offer sheet.

2. Sign Kyle Connor.

3. Trade Patrik Laine to either Detroit or Carolina

Possible trades being:

To DET: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Evgeny Svechnikov, Andreas Athanasiou, Madison Bowey

Or

To CAR: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Brett Pesce, Andre Svechnikov

- TheUltimateJet


Good forward thinking. Problem is Point has to sign offer sheet, and my gut says he would rather play in Florida (taxes and weather) than here in Manitoba.
Agree with Connor signing
Agree with trading Patrik
Don't like the Detroit trade offer
You stole my Carolina offer from earlier (which was turned down quite quickly)
How about instead - Laine, Logan Stanley and a 3rd - to the Isles for Oliver Wahlstrom, Ryan Pulock, a 1st (top 3 protected) and Matt Martin? Too much? Too little?


TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 18 @ 6:04 PM ET
Oh god why doesn’t buffalo just throw in Eichel as well, that is a ridiculous trade, jets get the best player in the deal while dealing from a position of weakness....makes sense.
- Sabres1523

I would do Laine for Eichel, one for one.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 18 @ 6:05 PM ET
Good forward thinking. Problem is Point has to sign offer sheet, and my gut says he would rather play in Florida (taxes and weather) than here in Manitoba.
Agree with Connor signing
Agree with trading Patrik
Don't like the Detroit trade offer
You stole my Carolina offer from earlier (which was turned down quite quickly)
How about instead - Laine, Logan Stanley and a 3rd - to the Isles for Oliver Wahlstrom, Ryan Pulock, a 1st (top 3 protected) and Matt Martin? Too much? Too little?

- grahamzky

If I am trading That much to NYI, I would at least want Matt Barzal as part of the return.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Sep 18 @ 6:07 PM ET
DEDDIE in these parts Laine is a generational talent. Carolina should be lucky that the Jets will not ask for more.
- TheUltimateJet


I get that and think very highly of him too but he's starting to be defined as a 1 dimensional player around the league.
Almost any trade for Laine would have to include money coming back for any team to fit him in their cap. Svechnikov is making 925 for the next 2 years and that is extremely valuable in today's NHL.
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Sep 18 @ 6:08 PM ET
Your thinking re Reinhart and Dahlin makes sense. Not sure some GM's (not talking Chevy) think that far ahead. The Wild have major issues for one.

Your offer is turned down. You'll have to keep Risto. I just have to believe there are better offers out there - maybe not from the Sabres though.

- grahamzky


I just don’t think the Sabres have the depth or skill to be making large trades like these, laine not going come cheap and what we’d have to give up to get him just doesn’t make sense in our current timeline.
Do we have to keep Risto
Jetter
Joined: 02.21.2019

Sep 18 @ 6:08 PM ET
I get your point and reluctance but do you really think Chevy will go into the season with your current D? That's suicide in the central division.
- DEDDIE


Chevy is now dealing in a reactive manner rather than a proactive manner if he tries to solve the issues with a trade. I do not see how the jets come out ahead in this situation.

Also dealing away their first round could be the worse thing this team does. If we hit injuries we could be in the running for a lottery pick.

On the bright side, we will have one of the youngest teams in the nhl. So time will be on our side
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