So far I would say Holm is better at defense than Gilbert because Gilbert doesn't skate at NHL speed/agility - he's not Seabrook slow but he's border line #6 d-man at best.
- EbonyRaptor

You're (some might say your) killing me with the news on Seabs - was hoping for a slight uptick. Oh well.

Which is better at defense?
- mohel

I like Holm, he's smooth seems to have a good sense of where to be, good hands to pass in tight spots.

What i like about Gilbert unlike Dahlstrom or Koekkoek, he uses his size as an advantage

So far I would say Holm is better at defense than Gilbert because Gilbert doesn't skate at NHL speed/agility - he's not Seabrook slow but he's border line #6 d-man at best.
- EbonyRaptor

Holm also has a decent motor. Fluid skater who can skate out of jams. His passes always appear to be on the forwards tape when exiting the d-zone. So far so good. Nice surprise thus far.

You're (some might say your) killing me with the news on Seabs - was hoping for a slight uptick. Oh well.
- mohel

Well, it is only the first game he's played ... so hope springs eternal.

I like Holm, he's smooth seems to have a good sense of where to be, good hands to pass in tight spots.

What i like about Gilbert unlike Dahlstrom or Koekkoek, he uses his size as an advantage
- BetweenTheDots

I agree with you on Gilbert using his size and being more physical than #63 and #68.

You're (some might say your) killing me with the news on Seabs - was hoping for a slight uptick. Oh well.
- mohel

FWIW. Seabs and Maatta were plus 13 in SAT. Scoring chances were in favor of that duo 8-2

Which is better at defense?
- mohel

Gilbert. It was Gilbert who was doing the heavy lifting in their own zone. IMO. Holm was getting out of position a bit. Especially in supporting his partner. Not that he is horrible and it can't be corrected but there were a couple of time he didn't give Gilbert any options with the puck.

FWIW. Seabs and Maatta were plus 13 in SAT. Scoring chances were in favor of that duo 8-2
- Elbows15

I love Seabs but he skates like he has lead in his skates. Hopefully he gets his legs under him and he gets quicker with some more game action - but it was painful to see him get beat to pucks and passed by guys who started several strides behind him.

I love Seabs but he skates like he has lead in his skates. Hopefully he gets his legs under him and he gets quicker with some more game action - but it was painful to see him get beat to pucks and passed by guys who started several strides behind him.
- EbonyRaptor

That bad?

Can we start the Seabrook trade scenarios now?

Seabrook, Sikura and a 3rd for Byfuglien.

Just one poster really.

He’s funny.
- Ogilthorpe2

Your funny.

in other news, apparently Panarin got hurt in his first pre-season game with the rangers

Ah. I wasn't even considering players. I was talking about systems. TBF, a lot of the Hawks players haven't played in Rockford yet.

Results mean nothing to me in the pre-season
- Elbows15

Elbows knows systems

I love Seabs but he skates like he has lead in his skates. Hopefully he gets his legs under him and he gets quicker with some more game action - but it was painful to see him get beat to pucks and passed by guys who started several strides behind him.
- EbonyRaptor

Enough already

I've been working and watching on and off. And everytime I look up Maata is getting a shot blocked. WTF.
- 6628

Disagree.

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Disagree.
- just69sayin

Disagree all you want, but I saw that happen 3 times in a row when I turned sideways and actually looked at the tv.

Which is better at defense?
- mohel

Just my opinion FWIW but I’d say Holm.

Disagree all you want, but I saw that happen 3 times in a row when I turned sideways and actually looked at the tv.
- 6628

it happened at least 3 times. had to look to make sure it wasn't keith.

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Blackhawks roster starting to come together.