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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:27 AM ET
Trade him for a treasure trove of assets.

There's a (frank) ton of teams that have won the Cup without Mitch on their roster.

- walshyleafsfan


couple of things with trading him.

the trades I have seen people throw out, are not enough for Marner imo.
And there is another problem. who wants him if they have to pay his crazy ask
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 12 @ 9:27 AM ET
This is true. 100% of all Stanley Cups have been awarded to teams without Mitch Marner.
- Monkeypunk


Mitch is holding us back..
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Sep 12 @ 9:28 AM ET
The Preds just got out from the P.K Subban contract, they'll be ok. With Weber, I have a feeling he will be traded back to Nashville, when he is ready to retire and will go on LTIR.
- PatC80

Yeah I’m sure they’ll be fine, just they have some bad deals on the books too. Interesting to see what Josi gets
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 12 @ 9:28 AM ET
couple of things with trading him.

the trades I have seen people throw out, are not enough for Marner imo.
And there is another problem. who wants him if they have to pay his crazy ask

- senstroll


You know how some people say "it only takes one GM"? I'm glad that's not the case for Marner..
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 12 @ 9:29 AM ET
Yesterday the speculation was we were waiting until 9/15, but 24 hours later it’s Mitch the female dog again?



I suspect some Bipolar people log in here a lot.

*takes meds*
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 12 @ 9:30 AM ET
Yeah I’m sure they’ll be fine, just they have some bad deals on the books too. Interesting to see what Josi gets
- ClarksonDavid


Agreed.. The Johansen deal was bad, but I think it will look better in a few years when other players are getting over $11-$12M per
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
couple of things with trading him.

the trades I have seen people throw out, are not enough for Marner imo.
And there is another problem. who wants him if they have to pay his crazy ask

- senstroll


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
Yesterday the speculation was we were waiting until 9/15, but 24 hours later it’s Mitch the female dog again?



I suspect some Bipolar people log in here a lot.

*takes meds*

- Garnie



Bobby Mac's single tweet changed all that wait until after 9/15 talk
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
The Preds just got out from the P.K Subban contract, they'll be ok. With Weber, I have a feeling he will be traded back to Nashville, when he is ready to retire and will go on LTIR.
- PatC80


I have a feeling that Nashville will receive an exemption on the Weber deal. Wedgie has, on more than on occasion, noted that it's a complete farce that Nashville be held accountable for a contract that Philadelphia drew up. Their option was to not match it and lose their star defenseman, or match it and later - without expectation - be penalized by the league for a back-diving contract that they had no part in creating.

In all seriousness, they should probably seek public application for that now so that there's no public outrage over it later.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
marner to ottawa for chabot straight up !
- droopy


senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...cock-speak-training-camp/

RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Sep 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
I would trade Marner to the Rangers, frank... At this point, I'd trade him anywhere
- PatC80

Welcome to Boston, Mitch
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 12 @ 9:32 AM ET
Bobby Mac's single tweet changed all that wait until after 9/15 talk
- PatC80


Absolutely. No one trusts Dreger.

But Friedman has some merit. Mirtle has more merit, and Bobby Mac is the MacDaddy of merit.

When they all come out and echo this, it's no longer Dreger the Ferris muppet.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
Offersheet compensation for 7x 10.55 is 2 1sts, 2nd, 3rd.
Judging by McKensie's messaging that leafs offered a long term deal 'in the 11mln universe', that's about what leafs offered.
Marner can get that salary with 3-5 teams in league.
It's not about the AAV - it's about the appreciation by leafs and commitment which is shown by a new contract offer.
Perfectly reasonable by Marner to look for a 11.5+ deal on 8 years.
Leafs probably still lowballing him with the offer around 10.5per/7y.
Again - it's not about the money, it's about signaling that the team appreciates him as a key player.
The signal should have been to first sign him and then get johnsson and kapanen done. Leafs got their priorities wrong.

- MaximusAurelius


How is a lofty over payment a lowball offer?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
Bobby Mac's single tweet changed all that wait until after 9/15 talk
- PatC80


Friggin Bobby 😡🥺☹️
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 9:34 AM ET
I think his dad turned out that way because of trailer trash mother.
Or maybe he was a d-bag from the start and that's why he found her to be a great fit.

- MaximusAurelius


You're a joke, Max.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:34 AM ET
couple of things with trading him.

the trades I have seen people throw out, are not enough for Marner imo.
And there is another problem. who wants him if they have to pay his crazy ask

- senstroll


That's a good problem ...for the Leafs. If some team values him at 5 x 11.6 and sees him as one of the top 5 players in the game then good ...they'll pony up a very nice package.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:36 AM ET
How is a lofty over payment a lowball offer?
- GreatGigInTheSky



does anyone have the contract prediction link handy?
Id like to see what people were predicting months ago

i have a feeling the numbers have shifted what people think is fair/overpayment
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:37 AM ET
Yesterday the speculation was we were waiting until 9/15, but 24 hours later it’s Mitch the female dog again?



I suspect some Bipolar people log in here a lot.

*takes meds*

- Garnie


Ya there's some of that ..but I think most are discussing it in a "if true" kind of way. If he's going to die on the "I want 5 x 11.65" hill then it is what it is and we move on.

I have some hope (from the history of his agent) that this is a lot of smoke and mirrors and puffery and that at some point a few weeks from now he'll reduce his demands (again, if his reported demands are even true).
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:39 AM ET
https://theathletic.com/1...ecutives-agents-weigh-in/

according to this a 5/6 year deal around 10.5 is the happy ground
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 9:39 AM ET
its getting bad for Mitchy
the reports of him turning down 11x 7 or 8 is not going over well with da fans ...and Jeff Oneil

- senstroll


O'Dog was having none of it yesterday. It was hilarious.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:41 AM ET
Welcome to Boston, Mitch
- RickJames77



Mitch for Pasta or Mccovoy ..k
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:41 AM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/watch-live-maple-leafs-dubas-babcock-speak-training-camp/
- senstroll


Who's taking notes today? Garnie's turn?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 9:43 AM ET
Absolutely. No one trusts Dreger.

But Friedman has some merit. Mirtle has more merit, and Bobby Mac is the MacDaddy of merit.

When they all come out and echo this, it's no longer Dreger the Ferris muppet.

- Monkeypunk


Wait, you think Mirtle has more merit than Friedman?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:43 AM ET
Who's taking notes today? Garnie's turn?
- The Law


yes, he went to grab his crayon box


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