That's bullpoop, he's got a good shot. Not like he had 5 goals and 85 assists. He did still score 26 with 11.2 SH%.
- JohnFergusonJr

90% of his goals are in tight....jmo

probably. $10.5M/year was the number for 5 years that made more sense to me.

10.5M x 7 is a million overpay for mitch and plenty of money for what he has accomplished.
- Tumbleweed

They overpaid for the first two and Marner's agent is expecting to be overpaid too.

But if these guys all perform at an even higher level and win, it won't matter.

90% of his goals are in tight....jmo
- bixll

And Tavares' aren't?

Doesn't really matter, pucks in the net, it's a goal.

The previous deals should be off the table. Offer him slightly less.
- Fakepartofme

yup.

but more than that, i think it's not possible; without other moves.

as understand LTIR, ~$10.5M is the most he could get. but that will basically leave the leafs with zero cap flexibility during the year.

And Tavares' aren't?

Doesn't really matter, pucks in the net, it's a goal.
- JohnFergusonJr

He is fantastic with the puck. But couldn't break an egg with his shot.

yup.

but more than that, i think it's not possible; without other moves.

as understand LTIR, ~$10.5M is the most he could get. but that will basically leave the leafs with zero cap flexibility during the year.
- Tumbleweed

So offers start at 9.5 and go down, daily.

90% of his goals are in tight....jmo
- bixll

Marner actually has a pretty decent wrist shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlRn2tcTUJE

90% of his goals are in tight....jmo
- bixll

But who cares
A lot of jts goal are in front of the net...similar to jvr.
Agreed he doesnt have a great slapper, but hes got a good wrister.

He is fantastic with the puck. But couldn't break an egg with his shot.
- bixll

yep. the PP stagnated last year because of marner's shot.

teams figured out he couldn't score from the faceoff dot. they played pass and let marner fire wide and watched the puck go along the boards and out of the zone.

yep. the PP stagnated last year because of marner's shot.

teams figured out he couldn't score from the faceoff dot. they played pass and let marner fire wide and watched the puck go along the boards and out of the zone.
- Tumbleweed

Paul Marner screaming from the stands "You gotta hit the (frank)ing net Mitch!"

yep. the PP stagnated last year because of marner's shot.

teams figured out he couldn't score from the faceoff dot. they played pass and let marner fire wide and watched the puck go along the boards and out of the zone.
- Tumbleweed

did you actually watch any games last season??

yep. the PP stagnated last year because of marner's shot.

teams figured out he couldn't score from the faceoff dot. they played pass and let marner fire wide and watched the puck go along the boards and out of the zone.
- Tumbleweed

Uhhh. Watch the link I posted. He scores with his wrist shot, from the dot, multiple times.

I literally wrote that he did in the post you are responding to.
- aminnes

You said last year only. I said Babcock did to Nylander what he did to Marner before last year, because he did.

did you actually watch any games last season??
- MaximusAurelius

They watch the game about all they see is Matthews. It's kinda nuts actually.

Marner actually has a pretty decent wrist shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlRn2tcTUJE
- aminnes

Most of his goals are from under 10 ft. Nothing from top of the circle out at all. 4 goals between the top of the circle and the faceoff dots...4. The rest are tight. Oh 4 empty netters too.

You said last year only. I said Babcock did to Nylander what he did to Marner before last year, because he did.
- GreatGigInTheSky

A bit, but not near as much. Please let's not go down the Nylander is as good as Marner thing again, it's so dumb.

Most of his goals are from under 10 ft. Nothing from top of the circle out at all. 4 goals between the top of the circle and the faceoff dots...4. The rest are tight. Oh 4 empty netters too.
- bixll

So the velocity on someones shot is based on how many time they use it? The 4 shots were pretty hard and accurate right?

A bit, but not near as much. Please let's not go down the Nylander is as good as Marner thing again, it's so dumb.
- aminnes

I'm not saying he is, nor do I think it. I never have. I just correctly pointed out that their stats were similar.

And Nylander might not have been sent down the lineup as much but it was close.

So the velocity on someones shot is based on how many time they use it? The 4 shots were pretty hard and accurate right?
- aminnes

Accurate, but below average in velocity jmo..

Matthews has velocity..

did you actually watch any games last season??
- MaximusAurelius

pp started great.

than completed struggled mid-season with marner doing same thing over and and over and over and over again.

apple doesn't fall far from the tree, paul.

pp started great.

than completed struggled mid-season with marner doing same thing over and and over and over and over again.

apple doesn't fall far from the tree, paul.
- Tumbleweed

There's 5 guys on the PP, plus an assistant coach (who got replaced) and a head coach but Marner's the one to blame...

A lot of people are letting their bias show today. Letting it hang out and shaking it all about.

Accurate, but below average in velocity jmo..

Matthews has velocity..
- bixll

Mathews is probably top 5 in the league in velocity. Marner is what evs. Middle of the pack probably. But he is a pass-fist guy anyway. He is given the puck and his job is to find the open man. Matthews job is to get open, on the PP anyway.

pp started great.

than completed struggled mid-season with marner doing same thing over and and over and over and over again.

apple doesn't fall far from the tree, paul.
- Tumbleweed

Yup. 5 man unit but Marners fault because he wants to get paid. How many secondary assists did Reilly get because he dished it to Marner last year - lots. #Marnersucks.

Mathews is probably top 5 in the league in velocity. Marner is what evs. Middle of the pack probably. But he is a pass-fist guy anyway. He is given the puck and his job is to find the open man. Matthews job is to get open, on the PP anyway.
- aminnes

Agreed, but if Marner is no threat to crank a clapper, makes it harder to shake your checker and get open. Again, jmo.

I am sure he works on it. He is not a big guy. He will get stronger.

On whatever team he plays for.

Mathews is probably top 5 in the league in velocity. Marner is what evs. Middle of the pack probably. But he is a pass-fist guy anyway. He is given the puck and his job is to find the open man. Matthews job is to get open, on the PP anyway.
- aminnes

And Marner is probably a top 5 passer. I have trouble putting anyone other than crosby, mcdavid, and kane higher than him