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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 24 @ 9:40 PM ET
I’m not a huge NFL fan but I like the Steelers. Anyone have thoughts on how they’ll do this year? From what I can tell it looks like they might sneak in
- WSCTeton17

Bubble team. We need to sell off the vets and rebuild.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 24 @ 9:43 PM ET
I’m not a huge NFL fan but I like the Steelers. Anyone have thoughts on how they’ll do this year? From what I can tell it looks like they might sneak in
- WSCTeton17

Tough call but I like how they are working after the AB84 and LB26 departures. Hopefully they’ll make it past the regular season this year.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 24 @ 9:44 PM ET
Bubble team. We need to sell off the vets and rebuild.
- Victoro311

Give it a couple of years before deciding to rebuild
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 24 @ 9:45 PM ET
Only if it’s Rust because it opens up cap space to sign Petts
- WSCTeton17

I actually like Simon and think he’s got good hockey IQ. Rust would be the logical idea since Kahun just got here.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 24 @ 10:30 PM ET
Give it a couple of years before deciding to rebuild
- Barnaby36

Our franchise QB is like 35. We don’t have a couple of years to decide this.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 24 @ 11:37 PM ET
Our franchise QB is like 35. We don’t have a couple of years to decide this.
- Victoro311


You ride it out as long as you have Ben. He's still a good QB and there's only like 8 good QB's i the league. Patriots QB is like 42....They ain't concerned. Broncos are on like their 12th QB since Manning and they had to get Flacco.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 24 @ 11:40 PM ET
I actually like Simon and think he’s got good hockey IQ. Rust would be the logical idea since Kahun just got here.
- Barnaby36


Yeah you move Rust. He's fine, nothing great nothing bad.

I don't know much of Puljarrvi other than he's almost a bust but still young and on a bad team.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:11 AM ET
Just read somewhere Edmonton wants One of the following players in a deal for Puljujarvi: Rust, Kahun or Simon.

Is it worth it?

- Barnaby36


No.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 25 @ 1:12 AM ET
Give it a couple of years before deciding to rebuild
- Barnaby36


The second Big Ben retires is the second they start to rebuild. They only go as far as Ben takes them.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 25 @ 2:42 AM ET
No.
- j.boyd919

I think it would make sense to move Rust for Pulj if it creates cap space. Some other depth forward could then be moved for defensive depth. This whole Tanev signing has put us in a bit of a pickle and I’m looking forward to when that period ends
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 25 @ 9:37 AM ET
The second Big Ben retires is the second they start to rebuild. They only go as far as Ben takes them.
- j.boyd919

Yeah I guess it’s like Sid and Geno. You let Ben be a steeler as long as he wants and then pull the plug. The window is shut for them though. We’re not doing anything for the rest of the Big Ben era. I hope he retires soon.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Aug 25 @ 10:00 AM ET
Yeah I guess it’s like Sid and Geno. You let Ben be a steeler as long as he wants and then pull the plug. The window is shut for them though. We’re not doing anything for the rest of the Big Ben era. I hope he retires soon.
- Victoro311


I don't really agree with that. Other than too many picks last year, he was great. All the reports from camp say he looks tremendous. If the defense is improved (which it appears it is), I think they're a contender. Frankly, the defense the last couple of years is the reason they didn't get anywhere.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 25 @ 10:05 AM ET
I don't really agree with that. Other than too many picks last year, he was great. All the reports from camp say he looks tremendous. If the defense is improved (which it appears it is), I think they're a contender. Frankly, the defense the last couple of years is the reason they didn't get anywhere.
- madmike71

Yeah I don’t attribute the window being shut to Ben. I think he personally could still lead a team to the SB and he has a good offensive line that can protect him and facilitate a running game. But Tomlin sucks, our defense is young and full of holes, and we’re hemorrhaging weapons around Ben on a year to year basis for one reason or another while he’s aging. There was a period there where our offense was so elite and Ben was still young enough where we could have overcoming a subpar defense, but Tomlin and Haley wasted that opportunity.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Aug 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
Yeah I don’t attribute the window being shut to Ben. I think he personally could still lead a team to the SB and he has a good offensive line that can protect him and facilitate a running game. But Tomlin sucks, our defense is young and full of holes, and we’re hemorrhaging weapons around Ben on a year to year basis for one reason or another while he’s aging. There was a period there where our offense was so elite and Ben was still young enough where we could have overcoming a subpar defense, but Tomlin and Haley wasted that opportunity.
- Victoro311


I agree... Tomlin is awful. His arrogance has literally lost them games. The defense is going to be better this season however. Maybe much better. Certainly much faster. I'm actually pretty optimistic.

Here's another positive... If they struggle, Tomlin is gone. No question in my mind. This is his last season if they under-achieve.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Aug 25 @ 10:32 AM ET
One last thing... They have 21mil in dead cap money this season from AB. 26mil in total. When that comes off the books next season, they'll probably sign an impact FA or two to finish off Ben's career. Granted, that's still a year out, but that will be significant.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 25 @ 11:52 AM ET
Zzzz
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 25 @ 3:17 PM ET
Zzzz
- MattStrat

Well...no more interesting blogs
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Aug 25 @ 3:40 PM ET
Several of Jake’s goals from that run were while Sid was on the bench. They were also glove side snipes. Is he a great play driver? No. Is he a star? No. Has he shown to be a somewhat elite shooter? Yup
- WSCTeton17

I’ve never argued that. I just remember stating once that he is propped up by Sid and everyone that blows him daily around here basically stated he’s the greatest player ever. Pretty boring player for me personally. But so is 99 percent of the league now. He does get the job done though. I’d still take a Kunitz in his prime over him any day though.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 25 @ 4:19 PM ET
Phil isn’t in town but I met the rents. They’re super cool. We had a great time over brunch. Not sure if I’ll get to meet Toch sometime here but that would be really cool

I never knew Phil Sr played in the CFL - that was a cool talking point since I’m a pretty big CFL fan.

Anyways, Chris Tierney on Twitter has Pitt 7 points back of Washington and 7 pts up on CBJ and NJD
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 25 @ 8:53 PM ET
Why is it so hard to give a guy like Mason Rudolph a chance more often? I believe in development a lot. He has the tools to be a starting QB someday.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 25 @ 10:07 PM ET
Why is it so hard to give a guy like Mason Rudolph a chance more often? I believe in development a lot. He has the tools to be a starting QB someday.
- Barnaby36

Do you follow college football? I think his ceiling is good backup/bottom half starter. I think he’ll be a great tank commander for us when Ben retires.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 26 @ 12:11 AM ET
Do you follow college football? I think his ceiling is good backup/bottom half starter. I think he’ll be a great tank commander for us when Ben retires.
- Victoro311

I believe that was Brady’s ceiling too. Oh well let the guys play. I bet a lot of good talent have been wasted along the way. Don’t ever let someone tell you you can’t be good.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Aug 26 @ 7:06 AM ET
Hockey message board discussing football. I saw that one guy retired because his calf was sore. What a yuppie sport.
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Aug 26 @ 7:17 AM ET
You ride it out as long as you have Ben. He's still a good QB and there's only like 8 good QB's i the league. Patriots QB is like 42....They ain't concerned. Broncos are on like their 12th QB since Manning and they had to get Flacco.
- sammy87


Joe Flacco IS ELITE
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 26 @ 7:24 AM ET
Hockey message board discussing football. I saw that one guy retired because his calf was sore. What a yuppie sport.
- Grinder47

I believe Andrew Luck had a lot of injuries tbh. Still I never expected him to retire this early. Nobody ever did.
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