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joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Aug 13 @ 3:09 PM ET
Lindros was a special talent no doubt be he is not an equal to Clarke as a player.
- MJL


Different era, Lindros would destroy Clarke one on one. Just like he destroyed Paul Coffey when he run him over at the blueline in Vancouver. I am sure you all remember that. It happed 30 feet in front of me.
bigstar12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.12.2015

Aug 13 @ 3:13 PM ET
The Well Inspired Travels link is bad. This one should work http://wellinspiredtravels.com
GeorgeBailey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 13 @ 3:15 PM ET
"Here I am dressed up in my Flyers jersey at a Flyers game in Vancouver, obviously a big Flyer fan. Clarke was standing by himself and I approached him politely and he just walked away pissed that a fan would talk to him ?? Never liked him since, great player and lousy GM"


Or, perhaps, just a good judge of character?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 13 @ 3:47 PM ET
Different era, Lindros would destroy Clarke one on one. Just like he destroyed Paul Coffey when he run him over at the blueline in Vancouver. I am sure you all remember that. It happed 30 feet in front of me.
- joegreif17



I bet you Lindros would destroy Wayne Gretzky one on one also.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Aug 13 @ 4:00 PM ET
I bet you Lindros would destroy Wayne Gretzky one on one also.
- MJL

probably have a tough time with Haag though
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Aug 13 @ 4:33 PM ET
probably have a tough time with Haag though
- daryl stanley


Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Aug 13 @ 4:47 PM ET
I have had the pleasure of talking to Eddie Westfall, Jiggs McDonald, Orland Kurtenbach, Darcy Rota but had the chance to talk to Bobby Clarke at a Canuck game and he was an inconsiderate wiener. Here I am dressed up in my Flyers jersey at a Flyers game in Vancouver, obviously a big Flyer fan. Clarke was standing by himself and I approached him politely and he just walked away pissed that a fan would talk to him ?? Never liked him since, great player and lousy GM
- joegreif17

He knew exactly who you were so he was smart to walk away!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 13 @ 5:09 PM ET
Lindros is the best flyers player ever
Gogol
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.16.2017

Aug 13 @ 5:09 PM ET
Sure, it would be easy for Lindros to destroy Clarke one on one. Eric was fast and would outweigh him by at least 50 pounds. But based on watching Clarke play for 15 years, after getting destroyed he'd pick himself up and assist on a goal while Eric is pulling splinters out of his ear.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 13 @ 5:11 PM ET
Sure, it would be easy for Lindros to destroy Clarke one on one. Eric was fast and would outweigh him by at least 50 pounds. But based on watching Clarke play for 15 years, after getting destroyed he'd pick himself up and assist on a goal while Eric is pulling splinters out of his ear.
- Gogol

lets see Clarke take a Stevens hit to the head
Gogol
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.16.2017

Aug 13 @ 5:28 PM ET
lets see Clarke take a Stevens hit to the head
- 2Real

I love Eric. But because he was such a monster he plowed through with his head down. Clarke’s head was on a swivel and might not have been exposed. Different eras. If Stevens did that to Clarke in 1974 he would have been torn limb from limb. Ask Barry Cummins.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 13 @ 5:41 PM ET
lets see Clarke take a Stevens hit to the head
- 2Real


He wouldn't have to...

1) He would not skate with his head down.
2) He played in the era where players were taught to defensively raise their stick, giving the would be hitter the choice of veering off or skating right into the lumber.
3) Alternatively, there is good chance that Clarke would have proactively two-handed or speared Stevens.
4) If Stevens did succeed in hitting Clarke high, there would have been a beeline for Stevens by every Flyer on the ice and the rest leaping over the bench. Ask Barry Cummins how bloodying Clarke worked for him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 13 @ 6:02 PM ET
https://goldensealshockey.com/?page_id=1937
Gogol
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.16.2017

Aug 13 @ 6:18 PM ET
https://goldensealshockey.com/?page_id=1937
- MJL

Thanks Not many of us around that remember. A good refresher. Unfortunately memories of that era are fading. There were lots of pictures of the Cummins incident in the papers If I wasn’t so cheap I would go into the archives and check it out.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Aug 13 @ 6:22 PM ET
He wouldn't have to...

1) He would not skate with his head down.
2) He played in the era where players were taught to defensively raise their stick, giving the would be hitter the choice of veering off or skating right into the lumber.
3) Alternatively, there is good chance that Clarke would have proactively two-handed or speared Stevens.
4) If Stevens did succeed in hitting Clarke high, there would have been a beeline for Stevens by every Flyer on the ice and the rest leaping over the bench. Ask Barry Cummins how bloodying Clarke worked for him.

- bmeltzer


Love your smackdowns, this is the best...
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 13 @ 6:33 PM ET
He wouldn't have to...

1) He would not skate with his head down.
2) He played in the era where players were taught to defensively raise their stick, giving the would be hitter the choice of veering off or skating right into the lumber.
3) Alternatively, there is good chance that Clarke would have proactively two-handed or speared Stevens.
4) If Stevens did succeed in hitting Clarke high, there would have been a beeline for Stevens by every Flyer on the ice and the rest leaping over the bench. Ask Barry Cummins how bloodying Clarke worked for him.

- bmeltzer

so you're saying Lindros should have swung his stick around like a weapon and depended on goons to protect him?
PatThePistol
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.08.2019

Aug 13 @ 6:39 PM ET
"Here I am dressed up in my Flyers jersey at a Flyers game in Vancouver, obviously a big Flyer fan. Clarke was standing by himself and I approached him politely and he just walked away pissed that a fan would talk to him ?? Never liked him since, great player and lousy GM"


Or, perhaps, just a good judge of character?

- GeorgeBailey



Why has noone shared this yet? Classic.[/img]
GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Aug 13 @ 6:52 PM ET
so you're saying Lindros should have swung his stick around like a weapon and depended on goons to protect him?
- 2Real


DIFFERENT ERA!!!!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 13 @ 7:02 PM ET
Why are they dragging Charlie Manuel into this mess?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 13 @ 7:10 PM ET
so you're saying Lindros should have swung his stick around like a weapon and depended on goons to protect him?
- 2Real


I'm saying Clarke protected himself better (and also had all his teammates ready and willing to step in, if need be). As for the defensive stick raise as a "shield", all players back then were taught to do it and it was legal. The two-handers and spears were not, of course.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 13 @ 7:12 PM ET
Why are they dragging Charlie Manuel into this mess?
- hereticpride


Why not? I'm hoping they give Kapler the boot and he takes over.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 13 @ 7:13 PM ET
Why not? I'm hoping they give Kapler the boot and he takes over.
- MJL

Well that would be perfect but he is 75...
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Aug 13 @ 7:15 PM ET
so you're saying Lindros should have swung his stick around like a weapon and depended on goons to protect him?
- 2Real



Just my opinion but ...

Back then if you ran someone they didn’t swing but they definitely had their stick up to protect themselves and they should.

Love Lindros but he invented head down

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 13 @ 7:30 PM ET
I'm saying Clarke protected himself better (and also had all his teammates ready and willing to step in, if need be). As for the defensive stick raise as a "shield", all players back then were taught to do it and it was legal. The two-handers and spears were not, of course.
- bmeltzer

So Clarke benefitted from goon hockey the big E didn’t not have to worry about that as much
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 13 @ 7:31 PM ET
Well that would be perfect but he is 75...
- hereticpride

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