Best post so far are this subject.
As mentioned before, it is a team game and teams need a mixture of players who excel in their defined role, along with some luck to win it all.

I just saw Botts walking out to the RW Tree with a bug, tall extendable ladder, looks like he is going to just pluck a high-end player from the top.
- IonSabres

I knew it was that easy. He probably only bought a 3' ladder because he's a (frank)ing PUTZ

Pure insanity
- Powerslave

Some would say bedlam

https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/last-3-nhl-seasons-players-stats.html

the only winger to have more even strength goals in the last 3 seasons then skinner is kane


the fact that someone posts skinner is not a top 20 winger, is beyond stupid
- homiedclown

This is a solid B+
Had you also stated he is Top 5 player (not just winger) to also score the most Game-winning and Game-tying goals over the past 5 seasons ... would have had no choice but to give you an A+.

Points matter (except when housing as the sole basis for evaluating Dmen)

Some would say bedlam
- TheSabresTaco

STICKY bedlamonium

Best post so far are this subject.
As mentioned before, it is a team game and teams need a mixture of players who excel in their defined role, along with some luck to win it all.

I just saw Botts walking out to the RW Tree with a bug, tall extendable ladder, looks like he is going to just pluck a high-end player from the top.
- IonSabres

If Botts plucks a top 10 goaltender, an established 2C, and we have 3 other d-men have strong seasons the wingers will be irrelevant. Warren Foegle replaced Skinner in Carolina and they seemed to do just fine. Carolina was a playoff team becuase they had one of the best d-corps in the league, strong goaltending (magnified by system and defense corps), and depth down the middle.

The Sabres will make the playoffs this year if Hutton/Ullmark give us strong goaltending, Dahlin/Mitts fulfill their potential in their respective roles, and if the rest of our d-corps rounds out admirably. Jeff will play a role in that, just like he did this year, but paying $9M to most likely the 6th most important player on our roster in the grand scheme of things is a tall task.

If Botts plucks a top 10 goaltender, an established 2C, and we have 3 other d-men have strong seasons the wingers will be irrelevant. Warren Foegle replaced Skinner in Carolina and they seemed to do just fine. Carolina was a playoff team becuase they had one of the best d-corps in the league, strong goaltending (magnified by system and defense corps), and depth down the middle.

The Sabres will make the playoffs this year if Hutton/Ullmark give us strong goaltending, Dahlin/Mitts fulfill their potential in their respective roles, and if the rest of our d-corps rounds out admirably. Jeff will play a role in that, just like he did this year, but paying $9M to most likely the 6th most important player on our roster in the grand scheme of things is a tall task.
- Swedish_Jesus

You're using a ton of circular logic here.

"Wingers are irrelevant"

Well what about the good ones like Marner, Kane and Hall

"Those ones matter"

Jeff skinner has more even strength goals than 2 of them in the past 3 years

"That doesn't count as meaningful"

You can throw Eichel and ROR with Wilson, Girgs and Pommer. We tried it, and it sucked hard

You're using a ton of circular logic here.

"Wingers are irrelevant"

Well what about the good ones like Marner, Kane and Hall

"Those ones matter"

Jeff skinner has more even strength goals than 2 of them in the past 3 years

"That doesn't count as meaningful"

You can throw Eichel and ROR with Wilson, Girgs and Pommer. We tried it, and it sucked hard
- jcragcrumple

8.9M max, but only for certain guys, especially not Sabres guys, but they're only important sometimes but not always but usually

https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/last-3-nhl-seasons-players-stats.html

the only winger to have more even strength goals in the last 3 seasons then skinner is kane


the fact that someone posts skinner is not a top 20 winger, is beyond stupid
- homiedclown

It is a head scratcher that's for sure.

It is a head scratcher that's for sure.
- Bufsaints8

The NHL is a neanderthal league compared to other sports leagues around the world. And with the brain dead NHL-paid talking heads basically saying points is the only thing that matters, that just drives the point home.

The NHL is still bloodletting to cure polio. (frank) those guys, and (frank) Gary Bettman with a rusty pitchfork.

"Fans don't want to see analytics or player salaries and cap"

~Gary Bettman, in the shower every morning.

8.9M max, but only for certain guys, especially not Sabres guys, but they're only important sometimes but not always but usually
- TheSabresTaco

Alex Wennberg had more assists than Skinner last year, therefore skinner is replaceable

The goal differential was close-ish

It is a head scratcher that's for sure.
- Bufsaints8

I am waiting for the response

Alex Wennberg had more assists than Skinner last year, therefore skinner is replaceable

The goal differential was close-ish
- jcragcrumple

The universe is way too massive for the human brain to comprehend. So the difference between Wennberg and Skinner is virtually nil

I am waiting for the response
- homiedclown

Wingers don't win championships. McDavid already has 4 cups

I am waiting for the response
- homiedclown

You will not get one, as it does not fit the narrative. That's how stuff works.

"I think A"

"But here's B, C and D disproving A"

"..."

Also, (frank) you if you don't like olives. First and first. I'll be a guy there. Find me, or you're the wussy.

I am waiting for the response
- homiedclown

Elite goal scorer yes, elite hockey player no.

Elite goal scorer yes, elite hockey player no.
- Swedish_Jesus

I am honestly, sincerely awaiting the definition of "elite hockey player"

Elite goal scorer yes, elite hockey player no.
- Swedish_Jesus

So he's elite at the single most important part of the game, but not elite at other parts. Let's get this guy a ticket to Sweden to ride it out with Berglund

I am honestly, sincerely awaiting the definition of "elite hockey player"
- TheSabresTaco

Not Jeff Skinner and his 9mil/8year contract?

Not Jeff Skinner and his 9mil/8year contract?
- jochfr

I picked up my Webster's Dictionary, and you pretty much have it verbatim.

First smart thing I've seen from you since Pete and Pete debuted

Why did it have to be 8 years?
You talk like that was a given.
- TheHank

F u

Oxygen is more important than water is more important than food. But you need all 3 in high amounts.
- TheSabresTaco

Love the analogy

Not Jeff Skinner and his 9mil/8year contract?
- jochfr

Elite goal scorer yes, elite hockey player no.
- Swedish_Jesus

so clank needs to score more goals instead of hit the post on skinner feeds


got it

I am honestly, sincerely awaiting the definition of "elite hockey player"
- TheSabresTaco

matt f@cking ellis


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