They should NEVER be trading first round picks. Despite the conditions being favourable for the Canucks in a strong 2020 draft, and the Canucks not slated to become a playoff team next year, its still an absolute awful trade and Tampa just fleeced us.
- Codes1087

With Miller, team does have a much better shot at the playoffs
-manvanfan

P.S. this was after the trade was announced officially.

Do you see me squawking?

2019 3rd

+

2020 or 2021 1st



it's 2020 first rounder they gave up if the Canucks make the playoffs, if they miss the playoffs then it's the 2021 1st round pick they give up no matter what
- Nucker101

I'm just sad that Van doesn't have a 3rd round pick.

Basically all the players I wanted in the third round have now been taken though
-manvanfan
- manvanfan

You went from 3rd and 6th would be acceptable to a 1st and 3rd in a couple of hours.
And now you mock others saying that a proposal like that (3rd and 2nd-6th) is unrealistic.

Cognitive dissonance much?

What exactly is strong about the 2020 draft?

Nobody has yet claimed it to be deeper.
There is no stud D like Dahlin or Byram.
Too much hype is clouding ppl’s judgement let alone where we might draft at. As usual some ppl rather jump to worrying 1st.

You went from 3rd and 6th would be acceptable to a 1st and 3rd in a couple of hours.
And now you mock others saying that a proposal like that (3rd and 2nd-6th) is unrealistic.

Cognitive dissonance much?
- RealityChecker

3rd and a 6th was clearly a joke bud.

What does a 1st & 3rd get in your opinion?
- Nighthawk

Apparently it now gets you Miller from a cap strapped team. It was another dumb trade, still is.

3rd and a 6th was clearly a joke bud.
- manvanfan

He’s too smug & obtuse. Went over his head lol

What exactly is strong about the 2020 draft?

Nobody has yet claimed it to be deeper.
There is no stud D like Dahlin or Byram.
Too much hype is clouding ppl’s judgement let alone where we might draft at. As usual some ppl rather jump to worrying 1st.
- Nighthawk

Don't worry nighty; the 2020 draft will deep and full of potential... if the Canucks keep their 1st round pick.

Apparently it now gets you Miller from a cap strapped team. It was another dumb trade, still is.
- golfingsince

Aka no opinion gotcha 👍

3rd and a 6th was clearly a joke bud.
- manvanfan

And the "nooooo" and the "barely a 2nd liner."

Lying is weak.

They should NEVER be trading first round picks. Despite the conditions being favourable for the Canucks in a strong 2020 draft, and the Canucks not slated to become a playoff team next year, its still an absolute awful trade and Tampa just fleeced us.
- Codes1087

With Miller, team does have a much better shot at the playoffs
-manvanfan

P.S. this was after the trade was announced officially.

Do you see me squawking?

2019 3rd

+

2020 or 2021 1st



it's 2020 first rounder they gave up if the Canucks make the playoffs, if they miss the playoffs then it's the 2021 1st round pick they give up no matter what
- Nucker101

I'm just sad that Van doesn't have a 3rd round pick.

Basically all the players I wanted in the third round have now been taken though
-manvanfan
- manvanfan

How did I get dragged into this?

Apparently it now gets you Miller from a cap strapped team. It was another dumb trade, still is.
- golfingsince

Kevin Hayes
February 25, 2019
Brendan Lemieux (31st overall)
2019 1st round pick
2022 conditional 4th round pick

I guess Chevy is just as stupid to pay a higher price for an older player and a rental. Yikes.

If you are wonder, I do consider Hayes to be also a barely 2nd line centre.

How did I get dragged into this?
- Codes1087

You're the fire starter. The instigator.

How did I get dragged into this?
- Codes1087

You and I were having a nice conversation on draft day.

You and I were having a nice conversation on draft day.


- manvanfan

Conversing or squawking?

Don't worry nighty; the 2020 draft will deep and full of potential... if the Canucks keep their 1st round pick.
- RealityChecker

Maybe so but it’s time for making significant headway. There is plenty of potential already in the pipeline. If the cupboards weren’t so bare for so long this would not be as big of an issue.

Conversing or squawking?
- Codes1087

I don't care about your stance on the trade. You were a person I had next responded to after the trade was announced. I don't see myself complaining too much about the price paid. Except for the 3rd.

Kevin Hayes
February 25, 2019
Brendan Lemieux (31st overall)
2019 1st round pick
2022 conditional 4th round pick

I guess Chevy is just as stupid to pay a higher price for an older player and a rental. Yikes.

If you are wonder, I do consider Hayes to be also a barely 2nd line centre.
- manvanfan

A 1st for cap dump - Marleau

And the "nooooo" and the "barely a 2nd liner."

Lying is weak.
- RealityChecker

I don't remember my stance changing since I still think he's barely a 2nd line player. He's a 2nd line player on this team right now. Certainly not a first line player. I don't want to see him play 1st line either but options are somewhat limited.

I’m not jumping off a cliff over 1 trade that’s yet to be seen how it works out.
I’ve seen Miller play enough in NY & TB to say he can prove he’s worth it.

Maybe so but it’s time for making significant headway. There is plenty of potential already in the pipeline. If the cupboards weren’t so bare for so long this would not be as big of an issue.
- Nighthawk

Do we have a dominant dman in the system? How about a surefire dominant forward.

Maybe so but it’s time for making significant headway. There is plenty of potential already in the pipeline. If the cupboards weren’t so bare for so long this would not be as big of an issue.
- Nighthawk

No one can complain about benn, ferland, miller and myers as acquisitions. As players, there is literally nothing to complain about, as they improve the team. My only gripe was and always has been the price for miller (not the player, cause I like him). Not to re hash this, but I thought we had tampa in a position to take advantage of, trade wise, and I thought giving up a 1st was a premium price from a team that wasnt really in a position to do so. That's all.

Do we have a dominant dman in the system? How about a surefire dominant forward.
- golfingsince

During JB’s time here no dominant D has been available when we drafted. I can live with Hughes easily. As for F EP hands down.

What exactly is strong about the 2020 draft?

Nobody has yet claimed it to be deeper.
There is no stud D like Dahlin or Byram.
Too much hype is clouding ppl’s judgement let alone where we might draft at. As usual some ppl rather jump to worrying 1st.
- Nighthawk

It’s just the glee club hyping it up after the Miller trade to make JB look bad. Some of these same dudes make fun of people who plug in prospects into future lineups yet they have no problems with calling a bunch of 17 year olds future stars.

Hypocrisy and sadism.

During JB’s time here no dominant D has been available when we drafted. I can live with Hughes easily. As for F EP hands down.
- Nighthawk

EP has had 1 really good season, let's tap the brakes a bit. Many highly skilled but undersized forwards don't do very well in the playoffs. Hughes has played 5 games, and yes he is dynamic. Dominant is a different word though.

No one can complain about benn, ferland, miller and myers as acquisitions. As players, there is literally nothing to complain about, as they improve the team. My only gripe was and always has been the price for miller (not the player, cause I like him). Not to re hash this, but I thought we had tampa in a position to take advantage of, trade wise, and I thought giving up a 1st was a premium price from a team that wasnt really in a position to do so. That's all.
- Codes1087

That's what I said from the get go. Good player, bad trade.

That's what I said from the get go. Good player, bad trade.
- golfingsince

You have to factor in that hes a top 6 player on a reasonable contract and locked for 3 years. That drives up the price, his PP success, his possession numbers, his defensive ability (which is under the radar good). Do I wish we paid a little less, yes, but i do like the trade. It always stings giving up a 1st though.