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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 11 @ 2:20 PM ET
Michael Pachla: The Rasmus Ristolainen saga is front and center once again In an interview with Finnish TV, Ristolainen says "situation is open" and he'll be in an NHL training camp.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Aug 11 @ 2:34 PM ET
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Aug 11 @ 2:36 PM ET
losers still in the old blog
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Aug 11 @ 2:37 PM ET
I'm obviously in the trade Risto camp, haven't been quiet about it. I don't hate him, but he is our most valuable piece that we can stand to lose - i.e. he ain't untouchable.

If we can get a RNH or Trocheck type for him, that's all I can ask for.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 11 @ 2:43 PM ET
Get rid of him. Botterill talks about players who want to be a part of the solution. Well he doesn't.

Liked Risto a lot, but with him gone, we'll get a look at Jokiharju all year. It really shouldn't be that hard to trade him for a RW who is an upgrade over Sheary. Just get it done
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 11 @ 2:47 PM ET
I'm obviously in the trade Risto camp, haven't been quiet about it. I don't hate him, but he is our most valuable piece that we can stand to lose - i.e. he ain't untouchable.

If we can get a RNH or Trocheck type for him, that's all I can ask for.

- BeadyEyedDouche

i'm in the keep-him camp...unless he definitely wants to be traded
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 11 @ 2:48 PM ET
I'm obviously in the trade Risto camp, haven't been quiet about it. I don't hate him, but he is our most valuable piece that we can stand to lose - i.e. he ain't untouchable.

If we can get a RNH or Trocheck type for him, that's all I can ask for.

- BeadyEyedDouche

Honest question, what makes him valuable? Cause it can’t be age, draft position and toughness.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 11 @ 2:51 PM ET
Honest question, what makes him valuable? Cause it can’t be age, draft position and toughness.
- Ross77

He hits things and once every ten games makes an impressive offensive play.

Other than that he can be seen missing body checks while allowing a clean zone entry and making a 7 foot pass to Eichel to get a secondary PP assist.

There’s not much actual value
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 11 @ 2:54 PM ET
11 teams showed interest in a recently bought out Shattenkirk. I’m sure Risto has value. I also think he will do extremely well wherever he ends up so we better get a good return back.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 11 @ 2:54 PM ET
Honest question, what makes him valuable? Cause it can’t be age, draft position and toughness.
- Ross77


Tyler Myers just got $7m to hit people in the shins with outlet passes.

Enough said
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Aug 11 @ 2:56 PM ET
Wow
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 11 @ 2:57 PM ET
Tyler Myers just got $7m to hit people in the shins with outlet passes.

Enough said

- jcragcrumple


Just because Botterill makes it look easy to acquire RHD it doesn’t mean they aren’t valuable.
ninecarpileup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: FL
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 11 @ 3:00 PM ET
and last year we heard"Orielly is slow and not worth the money. The only thing the guy does well is win faceoffs" ...look how that one turned out. I'm just sick and tired of watching guys come and go and nothing changes..We strengthen one part of the roster, while weakening another. Just seems to be an endless cycle of chasing our tail. On another note: Can someone tell me when this vaunted group of kids selected in the draft will ever start to show up? Every year we hear how the talent pool is supposedly so good in Buffalo...and year after year, we get nothing out of it except trading them to someone else who might actually be able to develop a draft pick.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 11 @ 3:01 PM ET
He hits things and once every ten games makes an impressive offensive play.

Other than that he can be seen missing body checks while allowing a clean zone entry and making a 7 foot pass to Eichel to get a secondary PP assist.

There’s not much actual value

- sbroads24

I heard similar things about ROR
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 11 @ 3:02 PM ET
Tyler Myers just got $7m to hit people in the shins with outlet passes.

Enough said

- jcragcrumple

Not arguing that point at all, Myers is ass. I’m just tired of people having “value” because they play big minutes poorly and were drafted high.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 11 @ 3:03 PM ET
I heard similar things about ROR
- Michael Pachla


We should all expect that if he's given better zone starts for another team, he'll put up 50+

But why would we keep a malcontent, especially when we have 3 brand new RHDs?

We had no replacement for ROR. We do for risto, and we need a RW/C. Seems too easy
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 11 @ 3:07 PM ET
We should all expect that if he's given better zone starts for another team, he'll put up 50+

But why would we keep a malcontent, especially when we have 3 brand new RHDs?

We had no replacement for ROR. We do for risto, and we need a RW/C. Seems too easy

- jcragcrumple

Not saying we should keep him if he doesn't want to be here. If he wants out and Botts can get a good return then fine. Make the trade. But the prevailing theme amongst many here (and elsewhere) is that he's worthless or at best has limited value. Very similar to what was said about ROR
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 11 @ 3:08 PM ET
I heard similar things about ROR
- Michael Pachla

I always thought ROR was over rated (still do) and even I will say they aren’t in the same league as players.

Ristolainen is and always has been a below average defensemen.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 11 @ 3:10 PM ET
We should all expect that if he's given better zone starts for another team, he'll put up 50+

But why would we keep a malcontent, especially when we have 3 brand new RHDs?

We had no replacement for ROR. We do for risto, and we need a RW/C. Seems too easy

- jcragcrumple

And this is why points are a terrible way to evaluate defensemen
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 11 @ 3:12 PM ET
I always thought ROR was over rated (still do) and even I will say they aren’t in the same league as players.

Ristolainen is and always has been a below average defensemen.

- sbroads24

You bagged on ROR at every turn highlighting all of his shortcomings, both perceived and real. I've seen the same thing concerning Risto.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 11 @ 3:12 PM ET
77-

Maybe the fact that risto scores points makes him valuable?

You kinda left out that part.
Scoring is important

Toughness is still part of hockey. He brings that as well.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 11 @ 3:12 PM ET
You bagged on ROR at every turn highlighting all of his shortcomings, both perceived and real. I've seen the same thing concerning Risto.
- Michael Pachla

Except one was always actually good. One has never been.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 11 @ 3:13 PM ET
77-

Maybe the fact that risto scores points makes him valuable?

You kinda left out that part.
Scoring is important

Toughness is still part of hockey. He brings that as well.

- Boss34

It definitely doesn’t help the win column
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 11 @ 3:15 PM ET
Not saying we should keep him if he doesn't want to be here. If he wants out and Botts can get a good return then fine. Make the trade. But the prevailing theme amongst many here (and elsewhere) is that he's worthless or at best has limited value. Very similar to what was said about ROR
- Michael Pachla


Botterill probably should have thought about that before acquiring his new d men and effectively announcing "for sale: like new d man who wants out. No tire kickers. I know what I have"
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 11 @ 3:16 PM ET
Except one was always actually good. One has never been.
- sbroads24

Good is relative. ROR was better than good, which is how you best described him. We found out that he was much bettet than that when placed in a situation conducive to winning.
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