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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Aug 9 @ 9:26 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Cool new evaluation tool Cool new evaluation tool
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 9 @ 9:53 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Cool new evaluation tool
Cool new evaluation tool

- Ryan_Wilson



Do you really need another chart to justify your opinion that Jack Johnson sucks?
sodapop31
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 05.20.2016

Aug 9 @ 9:57 AM ET
find something else to write about one time
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Aug 9 @ 9:58 AM ET
JJ wins Norris this season!

Fight me!
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 9 @ 10:10 AM ET
I was trying to compare all of our dmen and Schultz isn't there. I compared Gudbranson/Johnson and it was pretty ugly, both of them. Gudbranson was far better defensively, but everywhere else they were just as lame.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 9 @ 10:11 AM ET
All this hate is making me wanna see Jacko succeed. Get used to it I guess.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 9 @ 10:13 AM ET
All this hate is making me wanna see Jacko succeed. Get used to it I guess.
- Barnaby36


You say that as if nobody here wants JJ to succeed. You think every fan here wants him or any Penguins player to fail?

There's just a reality about player that's played 13 seasons and hasn't improved their game. I know that's a small sample size, but hey, it's the best indicator we got.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
So what I got from this was that Kris Letang is bad at age.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
With tinypic down I don't know how to get an image into the message board.

I suggest everyone compare Simon and Galchenyuk. Simon showed better in every area by more than a little except in offense and Galchenyuk was only marginally better.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 9 @ 10:30 AM ET
You say that as if nobody here wants JJ to succeed. You think every fan here wants him or any Penguins player to fail?

There's just a reality about player that's played 13 seasons and hasn't improved their game. I know that's a small sample size, but hey, it's the best indicator we got.

- Rinosaur


Maybe he's the Mike Knuble of defense.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 9 @ 10:31 AM ET
I was trying to compare all of our dmen and Schultz isn't there. I compared Gudbranson/Johnson and it was pretty ugly, both of them. Gudbranson was far better defensively, but everywhere else they were just as lame.
- Rinosaur


Riikola isn't on there either. My guess is they used a TOI filter to only get regulars or else the chart would be way too big.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 9 @ 10:33 AM ET
Maybe he's the Mike Knuble of defense.
- jmatchett383


Knuble didn't take 13 seasons to get better. He took less than half.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 9 @ 10:35 AM ET
Riikola isn't on there either. My guess is they used a TOI filter to only get regulars or else the chart would be way too big.
- burgh4life87


She took the top 372 forwards and 186 dmen apparently, so anyone who missed significant time or didn't play enough games didn't get in. Multi-year data coming soon, so it's just 18/19 for now.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 9 @ 10:39 AM ET
Knuble didn't take 13 seasons to get better. He took less than half.
- Rinosaur


Never scored more than 15 goals until he was 30.

Wait: Jack Johnson played all 82 games last year, primarily getting top-4 minutes,and had ONE GOAL!? I didn't realize that he had ONE GOAL all season.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 9 @ 10:40 AM ET
Never scored more than 15 goals until he was 30.
- jmatchett383


True, but the also didn't suck at hockey aside from his first couple of years. Johnson pretty much sucked from the beginning.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 9 @ 10:43 AM ET
True, but the also didn't suck at hockey aside from his first couple of years. Johnson pretty much sucked from the beginning.
- Rinosaur


When he first came up, had some hype first first season or 2 in LA. People assumed his defensive game would come around...well, it didn't, and his offensive game dried up too.

Knuble was primarily a checker, they needed to find someone to compliment Thornton and Murray in Boston, and he just clicked. Same in Philly, he just worked with Forsberg and Gagne.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 9 @ 10:45 AM ET
When he first came up, had some hype first first season or 2 in LA. People assumed his defensive game would come around...well, it didn't, and his offensive game dried up too.

Knuble was primarily a checker, they needed to find someone to compliment Thornton and Murray in Boston, and he just clicked. Same in Philly, he just worked with Forsberg and Gagne.

- jmatchett383


Regardless, despite what Barnaby says, I would LOVE if all of a sudden he figured something out and could be an average dman; that would make a HUGE difference for the Pens.

Johnson is at the very least a decent skater, so him figuring how hockey would be a huge positive for this team, but after 13 seasons I'm going to throw my hands up.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 9 @ 10:46 AM ET
Twitter my ass. He got that poop from the comments section Hahaah
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 9 @ 10:47 AM ET
All this hate is making me wanna see Jacko succeed. Get used to it I guess.
- Barnaby36


You said that last season knucklehead.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 9 @ 10:47 AM ET
With tinypic down I don't know how to get an image into the message board.

I suggest everyone compare Simon and Galchenyuk. Simon showed better in every area by more than a little except in offense and Galchenyuk was only marginally better.

- Rinosaur


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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 9 @ 10:51 AM ET
Regardless, despite what Barnaby says, I would LOVE if all of a sudden he figured something out and could be an average dman; that would make a HUGE difference for the Pens.

Johnson is at the very least a decent skater, so him figuring how hockey would be a huge positive for this team, but after 13 seasons I'm going to throw my hands up.

- Rinosaur


As they say in hockey...let's do that hockey.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 9 @ 10:52 AM ET
Twitter my ass. He got that poop from the comments section Hahaah
- j.boyd919


Hahahaha this makes more sense
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 10:54 AM ET
All this hate is making me wanna see Jacko succeed. Get used to it I guess.
- Barnaby36

You mouth breathers said the same poop last summer. Then what happened?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 9 @ 10:55 AM ET
You mouth breathers said the same poop last summer. Then what happened?
- Feds91Stammer


Said that they wanted him to succeed? I think all fans want their players to succeed.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
Twitter my ass. He got that poop from the comments section Hahaah
- j.boyd919

It’s gotta be what 80% of his blogs that are stolen directly from the comments section here?
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