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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:16 PM ET
That guy is not getting any NHL job anywhere, ever.
- PatC80


You say this like you've forgotten that Ottawa and Edmonton exist.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:17 PM ET
You say this like you've forgotten that Ottawa and Edmonton exist.
- Monkeypunk





The Hartford debacle is still talked about. No one cares for him... (Outside of Ottawa and Edmonton, of course)
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:22 PM ET
I doubt he'd get a 7-8 year deal, have to think Dubas would give him a 2-3 yr deal max, if Barrie wants to stay here
- PatC80


He'll be looking for (and getting offers of) at least 5 yrs. I think he'll probably have pretty flattering numbers playing with the Leafs this year so he may very well play his way to a big overpayment somewhere else.

Lots of other options ...maybe. Faulk, Pietrangelo, Krug, Josi, Spurgeon, Vatanen ...all could hit UFAgency.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:23 PM ET
You say this like you've forgotten that Ottawa and Edmonton exist.
- Monkeypunk

I was so disappointed when "Simmer" aka Shawn "Moron" Simpson declined the Assistant GM job in Ottawa..
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:25 PM ET


The Hartford debacle is still talked about. No one cares for him... (Outside of Ottawa and Edmonton, of course)

- PatC80


I had not read that until recently. It was a disturbing and hilarious accounting.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 18 @ 2:25 PM ET
He'll be looking for (and getting offers of) at least 5 yrs. I think he'll probably have pretty flattering numbers playing with the Leafs this year so he may very well play his way to a big overpayment somewhere else.

Lots of other options ...maybe. Faulk, Pietrangelo, Krug, Josi, Spurgeon, Vatanen ...all could hit UFAgency.

- The Law


Let's win the Cup, then he can (frank) off for 8+ somewhere else
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:26 PM ET
Let's win the Cup, then he can (frank) off for 8+ somewhere else
- BestRapperAlive


Yes, to the Clippers.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:27 PM ET


The Hartford debacle is still talked about. No one cares for him... (Outside of Ottawa and Edmonton, of course)

- PatC80


Enlighten me. I do not know of this debacle.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 18 @ 2:29 PM ET
Just need to hope Pierre McGuire becomes a GM somewhere. He thinks Ceci can develop into a perfect #2. Now #2 the poo or player...hard to tell what he was getting at.
- AdamFrench

If he develops into a #2, he should definitely wear #7:

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:31 PM ET
Enlighten me. I do not know of this debacle.
- Aaron_85

https://www.courant.com/n...-21-9405210429-story.html

We said he was full of himself.

Many times he privately said after a game how he outcoached the other guy. But it was something never really made public until May 3, when McGuire proclaimed that no coach in the NHL "can outwit me." That quote ran in The Hockey News and raised eyebrows all over the NHL.

His fascination with trying to outwit the other coach may hurt the Whalers in the long run. Instead of playing kids such as Robert Petrovicky or Kevin Smyth long after it was apparent the team was out of the playoff race, McGuire would fastidiously match lines, go with aging veterans and make sure certain faceoff alignments were always followed. Instead of development, he seemed just to want to squeeze out two points.

Once when he was an assistant coach, McGuire bragged about his strategy to shut down Mario Lemieux. This was after a 7-3 loss and four goals by Kevin Stevens.

On the bench, players said McGuire would taunt the other team, saying he couldn't believe the opposing coach was allowing him certain line matchups. This braggadocio led Pittsburgh's Jaromir Jagr to mock McGuire in December. McGuire got Jagr for an illegal stick, and after Jagr jumped out of the penalty box, he scored on a breakaway. Although he had scored big goals in two Stanley Cup championships, Jagr called this overtime goal the biggest of his life because he humbled "that know-it-all."

We said McGuire is calculating and lost the respect of his team.

Consider the Michael Nylander situation. McGuire would throw his arm around the young Swede and tell him he loved him like a son. He told him they would lead the Whalers to great heights. But after a humiliating 9-2 loss in Montreal -- a humiliation that should have shared by 20 players -- McGuire embarrassed Nylander by insisting he be sent to Springfield. Then McGuire told some people, including Gordon, that four or five players were tired of Nylander not playing defense and were prepared to beat him up if he weren't demoted. There's no truth to that, Burke and Verbeek said.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lawless Soldier of The Devil, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:31 PM ET
Just need to hope Pierre McGuire becomes a GM somewhere. He thinks Ceci can develop into a perfect #2. Now #2 the poo or player...hard to tell what he was getting at.
- AdamFrench

Lmfao the poo

That appealed to my sophisticated funny bonr
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
I think he will be better on the Leafs.

Still just a 3rd pairing.

- Santo_44


I agree. But I still can't see him being very good, though.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 18 @ 2:39 PM ET
https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-1994-05-21-9405210429-story.html

We said he was full of himself.

Many times he privately said after a game how he outcoached the other guy. But it was something never really made public until May 3, when McGuire proclaimed that no coach in the NHL "can outwit me." That quote ran in The Hockey News and raised eyebrows all over the NHL.

His fascination with trying to outwit the other coach may hurt the Whalers in the long run. Instead of playing kids such as Robert Petrovicky or Kevin Smyth long after it was apparent the team was out of the playoff race, McGuire would fastidiously match lines, go with aging veterans and make sure certain faceoff alignments were always followed. Instead of development, he seemed just to want to squeeze out two points.

Once when he was an assistant coach, McGuire bragged about his strategy to shut down Mario Lemieux. This was after a 7-3 loss and four goals by Kevin Stevens.

On the bench, players said McGuire would taunt the other team, saying he couldn't believe the opposing coach was allowing him certain line matchups. This braggadocio led Pittsburgh's Jaromir Jagr to mock McGuire in December. McGuire got Jagr for an illegal stick, and after Jagr jumped out of the penalty box, he scored on a breakaway. Although he had scored big goals in two Stanley Cup championships, Jagr called this overtime goal the biggest of his life because he humbled "that know-it-all."

We said McGuire is calculating and lost the respect of his team.

Consider the Michael Nylander situation. McGuire would throw his arm around the young Swede and tell him he loved him like a son. He told him they would lead the Whalers to great heights. But after a humiliating 9-2 loss in Montreal -- a humiliation that should have shared by 20 players -- McGuire embarrassed Nylander by insisting he be sent to Springfield. Then McGuire told some people, including Gordon, that four or five players were tired of Nylander not playing defense and were prepared to beat him up if he weren't demoted. There's no truth to that, Burke and Verbeek said.

- AdamFrench

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:40 PM ET
Presuming that's he a good fit here, and plays this year at the same level he has over the past two years - would you go 8x5 taking him to 34? Term on UFA is such a sticky area.

If he fit here, and played up to expectation, I'd probably consider that - I find that 33/34 area is where players typically start to have steeper decline.

- Monkeypunk


I’d give him 5 years.

I’d even do 4 at a higher cap hit...takes money off the books for AM and WN.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
I agree. But I still can't see him being very good, though.
- GreatGigInTheSky

He was a 3rd pairing D playing number 1 d mins

I wouldn’t be surprised if he is a little better than Z..but of course he won’t be given Z’s role. It’ll be limited.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-1994-05-21-9405210429-story.html

We said he was full of himself.

Many times he privately said after a game how he outcoached the other guy. But it was something never really made public until May 3, when McGuire proclaimed that no coach in the NHL "can outwit me." That quote ran in The Hockey News and raised eyebrows all over the NHL.

His fascination with trying to outwit the other coach may hurt the Whalers in the long run. Instead of playing kids such as Robert Petrovicky or Kevin Smyth long after it was apparent the team was out of the playoff race, McGuire would fastidiously match lines, go with aging veterans and make sure certain faceoff alignments were always followed. Instead of development, he seemed just to want to squeeze out two points.

Once when he was an assistant coach, McGuire bragged about his strategy to shut down Mario Lemieux. This was after a 7-3 loss and four goals by Kevin Stevens.

On the bench, players said McGuire would taunt the other team, saying he couldn't believe the opposing coach was allowing him certain line matchups. This braggadocio led Pittsburgh's Jaromir Jagr to mock McGuire in December. McGuire got Jagr for an illegal stick, and after Jagr jumped out of the penalty box, he scored on a breakaway. Although he had scored big goals in two Stanley Cup championships, Jagr called this overtime goal the biggest of his life because he humbled "that know-it-all."

We said McGuire is calculating and lost the respect of his team.

Consider the Michael Nylander situation. McGuire would throw his arm around the young Swede and tell him he loved him like a son. He told him they would lead the Whalers to great heights. But after a humiliating 9-2 loss in Montreal -- a humiliation that should have shared by 20 players -- McGuire embarrassed Nylander by insisting he be sent to Springfield. Then McGuire told some people, including Gordon, that four or five players were tired of Nylander not playing defense and were prepared to beat him up if he weren't demoted. There's no truth to that, Burke and Verbeek said.

- AdamFrench


Amazing!
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 18 @ 2:42 PM ET
This tweet from yours buddy A_A

-------
Offseason Freddy@ Maple_Hyperion
These people are (frank)ed in the head. So embarrassing to be a Toronto sports fan rn.
#LeafsForever

- 21peter


haha stupid Bird and Fox got screenshotted onto Twitter.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-1994-05-21-9405210429-story.html

We said he was full of himself.

Many times he privately said after a game how he outcoached the other guy. But it was something never really made public until May 3, when McGuire proclaimed that no coach in the NHL "can outwit me." That quote ran in The Hockey News and raised eyebrows all over the NHL.

His fascination with trying to outwit the other coach may hurt the Whalers in the long run. Instead of playing kids such as Robert Petrovicky or Kevin Smyth long after it was apparent the team was out of the playoff race, McGuire would fastidiously match lines, go with aging veterans and make sure certain faceoff alignments were always followed. Instead of development, he seemed just to want to squeeze out two points.

Once when he was an assistant coach, McGuire bragged about his strategy to shut down Mario Lemieux. This was after a 7-3 loss and four goals by Kevin Stevens.

On the bench, players said McGuire would taunt the other team, saying he couldn't believe the opposing coach was allowing him certain line matchups. This braggadocio led Pittsburgh's Jaromir Jagr to mock McGuire in December. McGuire got Jagr for an illegal stick, and after Jagr jumped out of the penalty box, he scored on a breakaway. Although he had scored big goals in two Stanley Cup championships, Jagr called this overtime goal the biggest of his life because he humbled "that know-it-all."

We said McGuire is calculating and lost the respect of his team.

Consider the Michael Nylander situation. McGuire would throw his arm around the young Swede and tell him he loved him like a son. He told him they would lead the Whalers to great heights. But after a humiliating 9-2 loss in Montreal -- a humiliation that should have shared by 20 players -- McGuire embarrassed Nylander by insisting he be sent to Springfield. Then McGuire told some people, including Gordon, that four or five players were tired of Nylander not playing defense and were prepared to beat him up if he weren't demoted. There's no truth to that, Burke and Verbeek said.

- AdamFrench

you've got a good pen, Frenchy
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
haha stupid Bird and Fox got screenshotted onto Twitter.
- GreatGigInTheSky
edit:
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
i have it on console and pc
- daeth

Which console?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
haha stupid Bird and Fox got screenshotted onto Twitter.
- GreatGigInTheSky

f'n animals
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 18 @ 2:45 PM ET
Which console?
- RickJames77

yes
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:47 PM ET
I was so disappointed when "Simmer" aka Shawn "Moron" Simpson declined the Assistant GM job in Ottawa..
- AdamFrench


that would have been fun, but I am happy with Pierre Dorion so far
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:47 PM ET
yes
- daeth

we should play

I'm not a 7 K/D kinda guy though
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:48 PM ET
that would have been fun, but I am happy with Pierre Dorion so far
- senstroll

He's had an okay offseason after blowing his wad last year to be honest.
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