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flyhoc
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.14.2009

Jul 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
This is interesting but the fact that the article mentions the Rangers as having made an offer kind of loses all credibility with me. They are in a crunch to eliminate contracts.
- Djapana


Would think Florida is likely fit. They have some cap room, and a Russian goalie

Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jul 18 @ 2:40 PM ET
Would think Florida is likely fit. They have some cap room, and a Russian goalie
- flyhoc


They also have Dadonov who has worked out really well since returning from the KHL. Yes Fla is probably the best fit but who knows that anything will happen with these dime a dozen rumors.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 18 @ 4:01 PM ET
spoiler alert, don't strain your eyes looking for Philly. Only 1 "expert" had the Flyers in there

https://www.nhl.com/news/...xaKzNxnMoMpHiHF4T0BM_HJwM
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 4:04 PM ET
spoiler alert, don't strain your eyes looking for Philly. Only 1 "expert" had the Flyers in there

https://www.nhl.com/news/...xaKzNxnMoMpHiHF4T0BM_HJwM

- wcorvette


Only one out of 12 "experts" had the Flyers as a top 16 team in the NHL. Luckily the experts don't know as much as the posters on this board. Just like the posters don't know as much as the Flyers brass.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 18 @ 4:07 PM ET
spoiler alert, don't strain your eyes looking for Philly. Only 1 "expert" had the Flyers in there

https://www.nhl.com/news/...xaKzNxnMoMpHiHF4T0BM_HJwM

- wcorvette




Actually 2. Kimmelman at 15 and Laflamme at 16
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 18 @ 4:08 PM ET
Only one out of 12 "experts" had the Flyers as a top 16 team in the NHL. Luckily the experts don't know as much as the posters on this board. Just like the posters don't know as much as the Flyers brass.
- PLindbergh31



Meh, one of them had the Leafs as #1.

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 18 @ 4:10 PM ET
spoiler alert, don't strain your eyes looking for Philly. Only 1 "expert" had the Flyers in there

https://www.nhl.com/news/...xaKzNxnMoMpHiHF4T0BM_HJwM

- wcorvette

Carolina, Islanders, Penguins, are they all really better than us? On paper I like our team.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 18 @ 4:13 PM ET
Only one out of 12 "experts" had the Flyers as a top 16 team in the NHL. Luckily the experts don't know as much as the posters on this board. Just like the posters don't know as much as the Flyers brass.
- PLindbergh31


Trust in fletch. Per Ek he made a great move by putting the fear of God in konecny with Stewart’s ATO
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 4:14 PM ET
Carolina, Islanders, Penguins, are they all really better than us? On paper I like our team.
- ClaudeFather


The Penguins still have Malkin and Crosby playing at near elite levels, and Murray is a proven goaltender. So yes they are better.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 4:17 PM ET
Trust in fletch. Per Ek he made a great move by putting the fear of God in konecny with Stewart’s ATO
- Just5


The optics of the Stewart ATO is what bothers me. If Fletcher had no previous ties to him, and he was being brought in on merit where he could actually compete for a spot I'd be fine with it. Stewart was toast two years ago, it's Fletcher bringing in a guy as a favor.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 18 @ 4:18 PM ET
Trust in fletch. Per Ek he made a great move by putting the fear of God in konecny with Stewart’s ATO
- Just5


Do you enjoy being miserable all the time?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 4:18 PM ET
Trust in fletch. Per Ek he made a great move by putting the fear of God in konecny with Stewart’s ATO
- Just5


The optics of the Stewart ATO is what bothers me. If Fletcher had no previous ties to him, and he was being brought in on merit where he could actually compete for a spot I'd be fine with it. Stewart was toast two years ago, it's Fletcher bringing in a guy as a favor.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jul 18 @ 4:19 PM ET
The optics of the Stewart ATO is what bothers me. If Fletcher had no previous ties to him, and he was being brought in on merit where he could actually compete for a spot I'd be fine with it. Stewart was toast two years ago, it's Fletcher bringing in a guy as a favor.
- PLindbergh31

rooney rule?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 18 @ 4:19 PM ET
The Penguins still have Malkin and Crosby playing at near elite levels, and Murray is a proven goaltender. So yes they are better.
- PLindbergh31

Their depth and Dcore is horrible, Jake, G, and Coots aren't producing at elite levels huh
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 18 @ 4:20 PM ET
The Penguins still have Malkin and Crosby playing at near elite levels, and Murray is a proven goaltender. So yes they are better.
- PLindbergh31


debateable. their defense is pretty bad and they lost a point per game player.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 4:26 PM ET
Their depth and Dcore is horrible, Jake, G, and Coots aren't producing at elite levels huh
- ClaudeFather


So you think they’ve closed an 18 point gap in the standing last year on the Penguins? We’re going to find out
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 18 @ 4:28 PM ET
So you think they’ve closed an 18 point gap in the standing last year on the Penguins? We’re going to find out
- PLindbergh31


I think we increase by at least 12 points and the penguins decline some so its possible
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
Only one out of 12 "experts" had the Flyers as a top 16 team in the NHL. Luckily the experts don't know as much as the posters on this board. Just like the posters don't know as much as the Flyers brass.
- PLindbergh31


Like all the experts astutely pegged the rise of Islanders and Huricanes last season and the instant success of the Golden Knights the year before. Also very adroitly pegged the Jets falling short of 100 points this year and having a short spring. And their prophetic offseason predictions that Jordan Binnington would backstop a team to the Cup.

Now for the reality; any hockey person worth a damn will tell you they hate making predictions because the one thing they've learned above all is just how unpredictable this sport really is.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 18 @ 4:30 PM ET
So you think they’ve closed an 18 point gap in the standing last year on the Penguins? We’re going to find out
- PLindbergh31

I hate when people say dumb things like closing point gaps…Our goalie Carousel and meaningless last 5 games really made our point totals realistic and how many points did we have the year before? What was the point gap lmao, did we get that much worse?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
I think we increase by at least 12 points and the penguins decline some so its possible
- bulet13


Well 82 to 94 isn’t going to get you in the playoffs. Better hope they increase by more than 12.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
Like all the experts astutely pegged the rise of Islanders and Huricanes last season and the instant success of the Golden Knights the year before. Also very adroitly pegged the Jets falling short of 100 points this year and having a short spring. And their prophetic offseason predictions that Jordan Binnington would backstop a team to the Cup.

Now for the reality; any hockey person worth a damn will tell you they hate making predictions because the one thing they've learned above all is just how unpredictable this sport really is.

- bmeltzer

But the point gap between us and the playoffs!!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 4:36 PM ET
I hate when people say dumb things like closing point gaps…Our goalie Carousel and meaningless last 5 games really made our point totals realistic and how many points did we have the year before? What was the point gap lmao, did we get that much worse?
- ClaudeFather


Bring up the goalie carousel, but leave out that Giroux, Voracek, Coururier, Provorov, Konecny missed a total of 6 games amongst them.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 18 @ 4:37 PM ET
Bring up the goalie carousel, but leave out that Giroux, Voracek, Coururier, Provorov, Konecny missed a total of 6 games amongst them.
- PLindbergh31

Provorov had a great year, so did Simmonds! JVR missed time. We are deeper than we have been in the past 3 years, we can sustain an injury.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
Provorov had a great year, so did Simmonds! JVR missed time. We are deeper than we have been in the past 3 years, we can sustain an injury.
- ClaudeFather


Who is the third line RW? 4th line of Laughton/Raffl/Pitlick? Average at best.
Need bounce back years from Gostisbehere, and Provorov. Not to mention Hart who is very talented and looked excellent at times last year, but you can't just pencil him in for a .910-.915 save %. Injury issues with Elliott. Niskanen and Braun both coming off bad seasons. You act as if there aren't a lot of question marks.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 18 @ 4:45 PM ET
Who is the third line RW? 4th line of Laughton/Raffl/Pitlick? Average at best.
Need bounce back years from Gostisbehere, and Provorov. Not to mention Hart who is very talented and looked excellent at times last year, but you can't just pencil him in for a .910-.915 save %. Injury issues with Elliott. Niskanen and Braun both coming off bad seasons. You act as if there aren't a lot of question marks.

- PLindbergh31

You act like every team doesn't have question marks, geeez, shutup one day man.
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