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daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jul 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
Anyone who thinks the Flyers are in cap hell, should look at the team-by-team cap outlooks on Cap Friendly.... much of the league is in the same boat, and many are far worse off.
- bmeltzer

but but they bought out Schlemko and his 600k hit next year will kill the team. Add in the gudas retention this year with andy macs money (this year and next) and it is terrible cap management. kidding of course

Though Bill others will argue what other teams do doesn't matter or make it a good decision....
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 18 @ 9:35 AM ET
In today's society that is called racism (I don't believe SSB is a racist, please read on). I have no problem if SSB wants to root for someone he feels is like him in some way. However we need to be consistent if we truly want to root out racism. If you want to elimate it you need to stop focusing on it. We are all either the same or not the same. Either accept that slight racism such as SSB's comment is ok as long as it is not meant to hurt someone (which his was not) or just be color blind in which that statement would not have been made. Sorry it is strange that you you called someone out for asking that question considering how sensitive society is today. Please go back to discussing Hockey.
- hockeyphan25


I don't view at as racism at all, just kind of a weird thing to say. At the same time, I don't really care that much. But if all Stewart is bringing is toughness/hitting, I'd rather he didn't make the team.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 18 @ 9:39 AM ET
Everyone who thinks the Flyers are in cap hell should read the Rags blog.

LOL, they are (frank)ed!

- BiggE



Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 18 @ 9:56 AM ET
In today's society that is called racism (I don't believe SSB is a racist, please read on). I have no problem if SSB wants to root for someone he feels is like him in some way. However we need to be consistent if we truly want to root out racism. If you want to elimate it you need to stop focusing on it. We are all either the same or not the same. Either accept that slight racism such as SSB's comment is ok as long as it is not meant to hurt someone (which his was not) or just be color blind in which that statement would not have been made. Sorry it is strange that you you called someone out for asking that question considering how sensitive society is today. Please go back to discussing Hockey.
- hockeyphan25


Jesus christ, this post is ignorant.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 18 @ 10:00 AM ET
In today's society that is called racism (I don't believe SSB is a racist, please read on). I have no problem if SSB wants to root for someone he feels is like him in some way. However we need to be consistent if we truly want to root out racism. If you want to elimate it you need to stop focusing on it. We are all either the same or not the same. Either accept that slight racism such as SSB's comment is ok as long as it is not meant to hurt someone (which his was not) or just be color blind in which that statement would not have been made. Sorry it is strange that you you called someone out for asking that question considering how sensitive society is today. Please go back to discussing Hockey.
- hockeyphan25


I don’t think jmatchett383 was really concerned with stamping out racism with his comment. I think he was just trying to annoy SSB. You’re right tho, I shouldn’t have taken the bait. Unfortunately there’s not much hockey to talk and I’m bored.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 18 @ 10:03 AM ET
Anyone who thinks the Flyers are in cap hell, should look at the team-by-team cap outlooks on Cap Friendly.... much of the league is in the same boat, and many are far worse off.
- bmeltzer


Here is the thing. I have a general rule. If you're a legitimate Cup contender, you should absolutely be up against the Cap. If you're not, then you shouldn't be anywhere near the Upper Limit. There are some teams, one being the Rangers that are badly mismanaged cap wise. The Flyers are dangerously close to the same level.

(Exclude the teams who made their runs and are now on the back side of that struggling due to player decline. That is sometimes just the price you pay )
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 18 @ 10:04 AM ET
Everyone who thinks the Flyers are in cap hell should read the Rags blog.

LOL, they are (frank)ed!

- BiggE



That was so much fun to read, I had to read it twice.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:11 AM ET
add another thing to the list that is labeled as racist/racism that isnt remotely close
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 18 @ 10:13 AM ET
For the record, I hope Chris Stewart does make the team. We depth on the fourth line, NAK is younger abs players the same style, which is element we’re missing, which is I originally wanted NAK to make the team this coming season.

Most importantly, I love this team when a tough black player plays on it. RIP Ray Emery.

- SuperSchennBros


They need to see if his skating is good, and I think that last spot on the 4th line is going to come down to team fit and the best player who can play the needed role.

Ray Emery is missed. Anytime someone dies young, it’s hard. His story hits like a ton of bricks. We can all learn so much from his life.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 18 @ 10:16 AM ET
Also, I want to go on the record that I might have a problem following a team that had orgies in the locker room. Call me old fashioned, but that just seems creepy. Ha ha
- Dkos


Spits in coffee
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jul 18 @ 10:21 AM ET
They need to see if his skating is good, and I think that last spot on the 4th line is going to come down to team fit and the best player who can play the needed role.

Ray Emery is missed. Anytime someone dies young, it’s hard. His story hits like a ton of bricks. We can all learn so much from his life.

- NC Flyers Fan

I believe the 4th line is set with pitlick-laughton-raffle.

No if someone doesn't take that 3rd line winger spot then maybe they try laughton there. Then opens up a spot for 4th line center. Who are potential players for that role (excluding Rubstov)? Would they use pitlick or raffle there then add a winger?
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jul 18 @ 10:21 AM ET
Here is the thing. I have a general rule. If you're a legitimate Cup contender, you should absolutely be up against the Cap. If you're not, then you shouldn't be anywhere near the Upper Limit. There are some teams, one being the Rangers that are badly mismanaged cap wise. The Flyers are dangerously close to the same level.

(Exclude the teams who made their runs and are now on the back side of that struggling due to player decline. That is sometimes just the price you pay )

- MJL

So in theory the flyers and other team may never be a true contender. Therefore those teams should not spend to the upper cap. Ever.
hockeyphan25
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 18 @ 10:28 AM ET
Jesus christ, this post is ignorant.
- Tomahawk


It's not but I'm not going to argue about it. Let the board get back to discussing Hockey.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 18 @ 10:32 AM ET
I believe the 4th line is set with pitlick-laughton-raffle.

No if someone doesn't take that 3rd line winger spot then maybe they try laughton there. Then opens up a spot for 4th line center. Who are potential players for that role (excluding Rubstov)? Would they use pitlick or raffle there then add a winger?

- daryl stanley


There’s lots of options on that 3rd line wing spot. That is the first spot to fill assuming there are no injuries to the top 8 forwards. Once you fill the top nine, you have to think Laughton if he isn’t in the top 9 is a lock, but he can play center or wing.

I also think Raffl is a safe bet for 4th line, but not guaranteed. As far as 4th line center options besides Laughton...you have Vorobyev, Rubtsov, Bunnaman and Pitlick.
There are too many 4th line wing possibilities for me to list off the top of my head. I’m sure I’d forget someone.
Pompous
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ruskin, FL
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 18 @ 10:33 AM ET
story says GM's are sticking it to Vegas and not trading with them until they are way desperate, payback for expansion....


Get the Dems we found collusion...

- wcorvette


Glad to see you involved yourself in the 'criminal' cover-up.
Put a little shade on that.

Sometimes I'd like to lay down my outrage at what I consider a criminal family moving into my WH. How about we consider that when you post?
This is my Island of Inconsequential Amusements. Political headwinds make bad combers and erode the beach.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 18 @ 10:34 AM ET
add another thing to the list that is labeled as racist/racism that isnt remotely close
- KINGKENZO



God Bless America!
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 18 @ 10:35 AM ET
Here is the thing. I have a general rule. If you're a legitimate Cup contender, you should absolutely be up against the Cap. If you're not, then you shouldn't be anywhere near the Upper Limit. There are some teams, one being the Rangers that are badly mismanaged cap wise. The Flyers are dangerously close to the same level.
- MJL


The Rags have about $8m to sign four RFAs, and the Flyers have $13m to sign two.

So they're not close at all.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 18 @ 10:36 AM ET
I believe the 4th line is set with pitlick-laughton-raffle.

No if someone doesn't take that 3rd line winger spot then maybe they try laughton there. Then opens up a spot for 4th line center. Who are potential players for that role (excluding Rubstov)? Would they use pitlick or raffle there then add a winger?

- daryl stanley


Have to believe if Laughton is on third line wing then Pitlick is the
Guy for the 4C. Not sure why you would exclude Rubtsov? I would think he becomes a major competitor for that spot along with
Vorobyev.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 18 @ 10:37 AM ET
Have to believe if Laughton is on third line wing then Pitlick is the
Guy for the 4C. Not sure why you would exclude Rubtsov? I would think he becomes a major competitor for that spot along with
Vorobyev.

- peesinwind


Pitlick didn't play center for Dallas last year.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 18 @ 10:40 AM ET
add another thing to the list that is labeled as racist/racism that isnt remotely close
- KINGKENZO


Well here's something we can all agree is racist enough to get you fired from your job under Federal Law.

https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc...ions/immigrants-facts.cfm

Harassment Based on National Origin

Ethnic slurs and other verbal or physical conduct because of nationality are illegal if they are severe or pervasive and create an intimidating, hostile or offensive working environment, interfere with work performance, or negatively affect job opportunities. Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person's foreign accent or comments like, "Go back to where you came from, " whether made by supervisors or by co-workers.
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 18 @ 10:44 AM ET
Glad to see you involved yourself in the 'criminal' cover-up.
Put a little shade on that.

Sometimes I'd like to lay down my outrage at what I consider a criminal family moving into my WH. How about we consider that when you post?
This is my Island of Inconsequential Amusements. Political headwinds make bad combers and erode the beach.

- Pompous


All you would have needed to do was to kindly ask that the forum sticks to hockey. Instead, you made ignorant and unproven statements that stoke the fires of the very flame you sought to put out.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jul 18 @ 10:48 AM ET
There’s lots of options on that 3rd line wing spot. That is the first spot to fill assuming there are no injuries to the top 8 forwards. Once you fill the top nine, you have to think Laughton if he isn’t in the top 9 is a lock, but he can play center or wing.

I also think Raffl is a safe bet for 4th line, but not guaranteed. As far as 4th line center options besides Laughton...you have Vorobyev, Rubtsov, Bunnaman and Pitlick.
There are too many 4th line wing possibilities for me to list off the top of my head. I’m sure I’d forget someone.

- NC Flyers Fan

I am not so sure their are lots of options for 3rd line wing. Legit options anyway.

Raffle and pitlick need to be on the 4th line. If not then that is not good to me for a lot of reasons. If laughton is the 3rd lien winger then others failed to impress enough to get a spot. forgot about Vorobyev though not sure he is an nhl player.

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 18 @ 10:50 AM ET
Glad to see you involved yourself in the 'criminal' cover-up.
Put a little shade on that.

Sometimes I'd like to lay down my outrage at what I consider a criminal family moving into my WH. How about we consider that when you post?
This is my Island of Inconsequential Amusements. Political headwinds make bad combers and erode the beach.

- Pompous



is this a Joke, mine was a joke, is this joke, mine was a joke
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jul 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
Have to believe if Laughton is on third line wing then Pitlick is the
Guy for the 4C. Not sure why you would exclude Rubtsov? I would think he becomes a major competitor for that spot along with
Vorobyev.

- peesinwind

exclude for conversation purposes only as what other options would there be besides him.

Dont want him on the 4th line as rather he expand his game on the phantoms and dont get pigeon hold as 4th line player so to speak.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 18 @ 11:01 AM ET
The Rags have about $8m to sign four RFAs, and the Flyers have $13m to sign two.

So they're not close at all.

- Feanor


The Flyers when all is said and done will be close to the Upper Limit. How close will depend on where Provorov and Konecny come in at.
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