HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Which Metro Division team has had the worst off-season to date?

I agree Columbus messed up big time, not with their fa's cause they needed to win a playoff series, it was time for that.
Where they shot themselves in the foot was goaltending.
They couldn't go 2 years 10 mil for Robin Lehner? Really? Smh.

Penguins traded Kessel and then used the cap savings to sign Tanev to a monster contract

Picking CBJ is to easy. I dont think they could have had a real good off season. Most ppl thought all the guys they lost were gone anyways.

Picking CBJ is to easy. I dont think they could have had a real good off season. Most ppl thought all the guys they lost were gone anyways.
- poisondhearts37

Exactly.

Picking CBJ is to easy. I dont think they could have had a real good off season. Most ppl thought all the guys they lost were gone anyways.
- poisondhearts37

That should tell you something about their organization. If a team played that well and showed that much promise, why would everyone leave?

Penguins traded Kessel and then used the cap savings to sign Tanev to a monster contract
- bulet13

To be fair there was less than $2M freed up from that deal. Don’t get me wrong, I was not happy with that trade, but relative to what Columbus did the penguins are still very much in tact, CBJ is not.

That should tell you something about their organization. If a team played that well and showed that much promise, why would everyone leave?
- Rinosaur

Well. For some it was obviously the bigger pay day. Panarin seemed like a some what family move. But he did also state before wanting to play in a big city did he not? I dont hate the idea that CBJ went all in for a chance.

Well. For some it was obviously the bigger pay day. Panarin seemed like a some what family move. But he did also state before wanting to play in a big city did he not? I dont hate the idea that CBJ went all in for a chance.
- poisondhearts37

Panarin was the given. It was well reported he wanted to play in NYC. The others? It's not like CBJ wasn't offering them money. The could have locked up Duchene, Bobs and Dzingel. From all reports, the Jackets were pretty aggressive in trying to keep Duchene.

Also, I don't hate that CBJ went all in. It took a minute for them to gel, but one they came together they looked great. A full season of those guys playing together would probably make a huge difference.

I honestly think it's Torts. He just does not appear to be the type of coach everyone wants to play for.

Panarin was the given. It was well reported he wanted to play in NYC. The others? It's not like CBJ wasn't offering them money. The could have locked up Duchene, Bobs and Dzingel. From all reports, the Jackets were pretty aggressive in trying to keep Duchene.

Also, I don't hate that CBJ went all in. It took a minute for them to gel, but one they came together they looked great. A full season of those guys playing together would probably make a huge difference.

I honestly think it's Torts. He just does not appear to be the type of coach everyone wants to play for.
- Rinosaur

I saw a thing somewhere saying Duchene actually wanted Nashville. But I dont think many teams other than Florida were willing to give a goalie 10 million. Sucks they lost everyone. A little surprised they didnt even retain Dzingel.

Torts is def the type of coach players get tired of playing for. Much like Sutter. But you need a Torts to teach players alot of things. Id imagine CBJ has a new coach some time next season or the following season.

I saw a thing somewhere saying Duchene actually wanted Nashville. But I dont think many teams other than Florida were willing to give a goalie 10 million. Sucks they lost everyone. A little surprised they didnt even retain Dzingel.

Torts is def the type of coach players get tired of playing for. Much like Sutter. But you need a Torts to teach players alot of things. Id imagine CBJ has a new coach some time next season or the following season.
- poisondhearts37

At this point I don't think they're a playoff team any longer. There's not much left out there in the UFA market. When you look at NJ and NYR getting stronger, CAR pretty much icing a similar team, I can't see CBJ making a serious push. PHI is such a hard team to predict, but I think they're more of playoff team than CBJ at this point.

At this point I don't think they're a playoff team any longer. There's not much left out there in the UFA market. When you look at NJ and NYR getting stronger, CAR pretty much icing a similar team, I can't see CBJ making a serious push. PHI is such a hard team to predict, but I think they're more of playoff team than CBJ at this point.
- Rinosaur

I could see CBJ having a “no one believed in us!” Season, much like NYI just completed. The cupboard is not totally bare there.

That being said, Trotz>Torts, all day every day.

I could see CBJ having a “no one believed in us!” Season, much like NYI just completed. The cupboard is not totally bare there.

That being said, Trotz>Torts, all day every day.
- Za Warudo

CBJ leaned quite a bit on Bobs and not having a suitable replacement could be problematic. This is not to say CBJ has a "bad" team right now. They still have some very good young players. If they can come together as a unit they could be a bottom-seeded team.

Remember that if the Islanders didn't have goaltending at the level they did in Lehner, there's a good chance they don't even sniff the playoffs. But hey, there's always one to two surprise teams and you just never know.

CBJ leaned quite a bit on Bobs and not having a suitable replacement could be problematic. This is not to say CBJ has a "bad" team right now. They still have some very good young players. If they can come together as a unit they could be a bottom-seeded team.

Remember that if the Islanders didn't have goaltending at the level they did in Lehner, there's a good chance they don't even sniff the playoffs. But hey, there's always one to two surprise teams and you just never know.
- Rinosaur

They for sure need Korpisalo to step up and be huge.

I would count out CBJ yet . There are a lot of teams that need to move salary and the closer it gets to the season the less CBJ will have to give up .Tampa would be a good example . Heck , it looks like the waiver wire could garner some good players

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Rhino, at least the CBJ never intentionally tanked to get the top pick in the draft 2 or 3 years running, so please don't trash another organization because you got intentionally lucky with your draft position.

I would also remind some of you that had the CBJ not lost 3 or it's top 6 d-men before and during the playoffs the Boston series could easily have turned a different way, and then who knows what happens against Carolina and St. Louis? It was a risk worth taking and the CBJ should be applauded for rolling the dice and going for it instead trading everyone away at the trade deadline for chump change players and picks. Since everyone assumed the UFA's were leaving for greener pastures no matter what the CBJ did who is going to spend a #1 draft pick + to rent these guys for two months?

The team obviously believes that the young players coming up will be quality NHL players, and if it takes a year or two for them to get better, then it takes time. It is really discouraging that all of the big free agents left, Columbus is a great town and there is a lot of support for the team. But the UFA's had their own priorities, and like I said, better to use them to try and win it all than drop out of the playoffs and try to make them in 2020 with some 2nd and 3rd round picks and a couple aging veterans.

I would also remind you that there are some teams who have cap problems even now, and who knows what players will be available as the season gets closer? The team has $17 million US dollars left to spend, and likely $10 million after signing Zach Wrenesky to a contract. This off-season is not over yet, and this is not the Oilers or Arizona we are discussing.

Every player that left CBJ got severely overpaid but they are obviously the clear losers... Matt Duchene is one of the most overrated players in the league. All the hype for a perennial 50 pt player that can't play defense.

Artemi Panarin got paid like a top 5 player. He isn't.

Bob getting 10 million until age 37.



On the other hand, Carolina did well picking up Dzingel.

This poll is a bit early. Run it again after Labor Day and the answers might be a bit different.

Every player that left CBJ got severely overpaid but they are obviously the clear losers... Matt Duchene is one of the most overrated players in the league. All the hype for a perennial 50 pt player that can't play defense.

Artemi Panarin got paid like a top 5 player. He isn't.

Bob getting 10 million until age 37.



On the other hand, Carolina did well picking up Dzingel.
- Mahewman

I'm sorta glad we dodged that Bob contract, not sure how the panthers will handle this once he starts declining and spencer knight is ready .

Just because Columbus is an easy choice doesnt make it an incorrect one.

CBJ lost their big name players
Traded away all their picks
Failed to make an offseason splash

I dont see the issue with the Flyers moves. The Dmen they added are 32 years old and the longest contract is just 2 years.

Flyers signed the the 2nd best C available. They overpaid but that is what you have to do to get the top players in FA. Panarin is not a 12 mill player but the Rangers overpaid to get him. They got into a bidding war with other teams. Hayes would have gotten 7 mill somewhere. It had to be Philly as we desperately needed to fill a hole in the team that was severely exposed last season.

Yeah, agree, after labor day will give a better indication. I like Columbus going for it last season. They rolled the dice which is better than what other teams did, not even winning a series. Columbus had a real shot.

The team will still be decent and they didn't handcuff themselves for years with albatross contracts. The only position is goalchie where I think they could have done better. I believed they'll shore that up before the season starts. I wouldn't be surprised if they get Crawford from Chicago.

Rhino, at least the CBJ never intentionally tanked to get the top pick in the draft 2 or 3 years running, so please don't trash another organization because you got intentionally lucky with your draft position.
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- jkumpire

What in the world does that have to do with what team had the worst off-season? Dumbass.

Also, who the (frank) is trashing the jackets? The question was simple. Who had the worst off-season? They lost a top five winger in the league, a top goalie, a top centerman and a solid top-six winger, and so far have replaced Panarin with Nyquist.

Thats not trashing an organization you mongoloid. It's answering the question. They lost a lot of quality players and barely replaced them.

Rhino,

I quote your post:

That should tell you something about their organization. If a team played that well and showed that much promise, why would everyone leave?

If that is not an attack on the current CBJ organization please tell us what it means. And yes the Pittsburgh tanking was a long time ago, but the CBJ had some bad management in the past, but has never tanked to get the #1 pick.

I understand your tram had a bad playoff series last year, but being angry enough at a post to call someone an ******* is not much of a way to win an argument.

HOW IS CBJ A BUBBLE PLAYOFF TEAM??? I ABSOLUTELY CAN'T HEARING THAT!!! They barely made the playoffs with Panarin Bobrovsky Duchene & Dzingle. If Korpisalo was just bad & not God awful they'd have been easily into the playoffs. Backups stats can be quite deceiving & bloated when they are well rested and typically get the cherry picked games vs lesser opponents. Even with that role he had a sub 90% SV% & almost a 3gaa. Now as the starter he's gonna c the best teams with little rest. There's a very good chance he'll have worse stats than last yr. Elvis has never played in the NHL AHL or NCAA & wasn't even an elite player in the NLA. He could get run out of the NHL really quickly. That's just the goalie problems. They look Panarin Duchene & Dzingle & only added Nyquist.

THIS TEAM WILL BATTLE FOR THE BASEMENT NOT THE PLAYOFFS!!!!!