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breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jul 12 @ 10:21 AM ET
My concern is when the playoffs came and when Guelph pushed back against London, Boqvist was suddenly very unnoticable. Yes he dominated the regular season but ...
- paulr


He was leading the league in goals for the OHL playoffs when London was eliminated. I know that isn't his primary job, but even if he didn't have a stellar series vs Guelph that is something that stands out IMO.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:27 AM ET
This is an example of Bowman getting smarter. He avoided jumping on Dzingel as a UFA and overpaying with term because he has an NHL resume. He may turn out to be a very good signing for Carolina, but have to wonder why teams like Columbus, Buffalo, Detroit, Minny and a few others who need forwards didnt bite.

I prefer what Stan has done - bring back Shaw and create a very competitive environment with many young guys looking for an NHL job.

- RickJ


Was just going to say I'd rather have Shaw and his term, for this team anyway.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:30 AM ET
He was leading the league in goals for the OHL playoffs when London was eliminated. I know that isn't his primary job, but even if he didn't have a stellar series vs Guelph that is something that stands out IMO.
- breadbag

You can't take that away from him but Once Guelph turned it on his defense just wasn't good enough to be a difference maker. It is imperative Boqvist learns how to play without the puck or in a few years he will be another Gus. The question is where is the best place for him to learn the aspects of the game he's weak at? Keith learned in the AHL under Trent Yawney. Is Rockford or London better from him to learn?
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 12 @ 10:33 AM ET
Keith-Gus-Maattaa-deHaan-Murphy-Seabrook.

Where does he fit in as an everyday player?

Don’t want him rotating between 6and 7 - and he’s indicated (I think) that he’s not looking for time in Rockford (hasn’t he said he wants to make an immediate impact, hasn’t he?).

He’s going to be the captain on a good college team coming off the Frozen Four.

I’d think he’d be play in Denver through his tournament.

- StLBravesFan


I think he will sign with the Hawks at the end of the NCAA season with the condition to burn a year off his ELC by joining the team at the end of this season.

If Boqvist plays at Rockford he can easily be brought up from Rockford to audition as Gus' replacement. I think he and Mitchell will be on the team for the 20/21 season.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Jul 12 @ 10:34 AM ET
I believe Stan is not getting better at his job ,it just he does not have 300 pound gorilla ( Q ) In the room to dance around .Having a coach on the same page as the FO makes a big difference
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jul 12 @ 10:36 AM ET
You can't take that away from him but Once Guelph turned it on his defense just wasn't good enough to be a difference maker. It is imperative Boqvist learns how to play without the puck or in a few years he will be another Gus. The question is where is the best place for him to learn the aspects of the game he's weak at? Keith learned in the AHL under Trent Yawney. Is Rockford or London better from him to learn?
- paulr


I think the Hawks feel it is Rockford. I think the Hawks know they need offensive minded guys on the blueline like Gus and Boqvist. Personally, I don't think either guy will be a problem for the Hawks because they will be more like a Brian Campbell contributor meant to cause problems on the rush and attack and give the team a boost offensively, like Gus did last year. To me, biggest thing Boqvist needs to do it learn to win more battles and get stronger. In the preseason last year he was trying but attackers could shake him much too easily.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:36 AM ET
Dzingle gone...to the Canes.

So, the camp pushing for him must move on.

AA will likely stay, unless a center can come back. I see Perlini as one that may move, cap-wise we are right against it. If Stan could make ONE more move to free up just a little. We be all set.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 12 @ 10:37 AM ET
You can't take that away from him but Once Guelph turned it on his defense just wasn't good enough to be a difference maker. It is imperative Boqvist learns how to play without the puck or in a few years he will be another Gus. The question is where is the best place for him to learn the aspects of the game he's weak at? Keith learned in the AHL under Trent Yawney. Is Rockford or London better from him to learn?
- paulr


Potentially one good thing I see about him going to RFD is being able to bond with some other players that could be in the team pic in a few years.

The bigger ? For me is will he get the coaching needed from King and are there any mentoring types on the team? I know Versteeg will be there and hopefully that’s a role he can embrace and excel at.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 12 @ 10:38 AM ET
Does that make Taylor Dr. Jekyll? Would have to right?
- HawkintheD


Yep, Tyler is the good guy.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jul 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
Saw that.

Actually there is quite a list of guys doing that.

- RickJ


Quite a number also getting on the ice to occasionally play some semi-serious games against other pros (current and past). If you're in Chicago, the games are only $5 per ticket and you can stand at the glass or sit in the stands. When it's a hot day, it's a perfect respite.

Active Hawks System
Toews
Kane
DBC
Strome
Beaudin
Louis
Boqvist
Murphy
Vlasic
Broadhurst

Some Hawks Alums
Bollig
Darling
Pirri
Hinostroza
Hartman

Saw Q and StanBo at a couple of the games last year. Good way for them to see the new guys on ice in a lower pressure situation.

This year, they've also got a women's division (Kendall Coyne was on Kane's team last year)
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 12 @ 10:44 AM ET
Dzingle gone...to the Canes.

So, the camp pushing for him must move on.

AA will likely stay, unless a center can come back. I see Perlini as one that may move, cap-wise we are right against it. If Stan could make ONE more move to free up just a little. We be all set.

- hawk35


Agreed, AA is more likely to stay although I believe he will be moved next summer.

There are still some questions on this roster, but it's now more about which prospects will make the jump and remain in the NHL as consistent contributors. My guesses are Kubalik and Sikura. Dach gets 9 games to further his learning and development but ultimately goes back to the dub.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 12 @ 10:49 AM ET
You can't take that away from him but Once Guelph turned it on his defense just wasn't good enough to be a difference maker. It is imperative Boqvist learns how to play without the puck or in a few years he will be another Gus. The question is where is the best place for him to learn the aspects of the game he's weak at? Keith learned in the AHL under Trent Yawney. Is Rockford or London better from him to learn?
- paulr


Could you say that also about his blueline partner, another high 1st round draft choice with more experience (Evan Boiuchard)?
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jul 12 @ 10:54 AM ET
Dzingel got sat during play-offs in Columbus. Had perfect situation for him in Ottawa. Not worth the money Canes gave.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 12 @ 10:55 AM ET
Quite a number also getting on the ice to occasionally play some semi-serious games against other pros (current and past). If you're in Chicago, the games are only $5 per ticket and you can stand at the glass or sit in the stands. When it's a hot day, it's a perfect respite.

Active Hawks System
Toews
Kane
DBC
Strome
Beaudin
Louis
Boqvist
Murphy
Vlasic
Broadhurst

Some Hawks Alums
Bollig
Darling
Pirri
Hinostroza
Hartman

Saw Q and StanBo at a couple of the games last year. Good way for them to see the new guys on ice in a lower pressure situation.

This year, they've also got a women's division (Kendall Coyne was on Kane's team last year)

- pdx2ord


They play on Wednesdays and the first games were a couple days ago on the 10th. I haven't seen any coverage and their website has a schedule/stats section but none of the game summaries have been posted yet. I recall last season it took the website a couple days to post game summaries so it looks the same this season, if not even slower.

Here's the website:

https://www.chicagoprohockeyleague.com/
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:55 AM ET
I think he will sign with the Hawks at the end of the NCAA season with the condition to burn a year off his ELC by joining the team at the end of this season.

If Boqvist plays at Rockford he can easily be brought up from Rockford to audition as Gus' replacement. I think he and Mitchell will be on the team for the 20/21 season.

- boilermaker100


Doesn't it have to be a regular season game to burn the year of ELC?

If I remember correctly, if you make it to the frozen four, regular season is over by the time you are done.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 12 @ 10:56 AM ET
Could you say that also about his blueline partner, another high 1st round draft choice with more experience (Evan Boiuchard)?
- LAHawk



Most, if not all, of the London team didn't perform as expected once Guelph went on their run. I think it's more to do with Guelph's great play in that series and it wasn't the only time they went on a run like that in the playoffs.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jul 12 @ 10:57 AM ET
They play on Wednesdays and the first games were a couple days ago on the 10th. I haven't seen any coverage and their website has a schedule/stats section but none of the game summaries have been posted yet. I recall last season it took the website a couple days to post game summaries so it looks the same this season, if not even slower.

Here's the website:

https://www.chicagoprohockeyleague.com/

- EbonyRaptor


Yeah, at least last year, it seemed like a one-man show. Promos, social media, game announcing, etc. Hopefully, he has some help this year. Great idea and obviously an attractive option for a lot of pro players in the Chicago area.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:59 AM ET
Most, if not all, of the London team didn't perform as expected once Guelph went on their run. I think it's more to do with Guelph's great play in that series and it wasn't the only time they went on a run like that in the playoffs.
- DarthKane


It was all because of Mackensie Entwhistle
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 12 @ 11:00 AM ET
Doesn't it have to be a regular season game to burn the year of ELC?

If I remember correctly, if you make it to the frozen four, regular season is over by the time you are done.

- vabeachbear


I think playoffs games count too. Cale Makar joined Colorado after his team won the Frozen Four and played only playoff games and the 1st year of his ELC was knocked off.
phantasmo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.13.2016

Jul 12 @ 11:01 AM ET
You think Stan and Colliton are holding out hope that one of the prospect F's make the big club, hence the delay on signing Perlini to a deal at anything other than their terms?

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I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 12 @ 11:03 AM ET
I think playoffs games count too. Cale Makar joined Colorado after his team won the Frozen Four and played only playoff games and the 1st year of his ELC was knocked off.
- EbonyRaptor


I think it was 10 playoff games. Isn't that the number to burn the first year?
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jul 12 @ 11:03 AM ET
You can't take that away from him but Once Guelph turned it on his defense just wasn't good enough to be a difference maker. It is imperative Boqvist learns how to play without the puck or in a few years he will be another Gus. The question is where is the best place for him to learn the aspects of the game he's weak at? Keith learned in the AHL under Trent Yawney. Is Rockford or London better from him to learn?
- paulr


London lost solely because they were weak up-front. Simply didn’t have enough forward scoring. Boqvist had 10 in 11 and Bouchard was also great. Can’t fault the London D. Can we stop comparing Boqvist to Gus, as Gus is clueless on the ice and should not be in the NHL.
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jul 12 @ 11:05 AM ET
Great deal for Carolina. Dzingel is better served as forward but nice to have a winger that can slot in at C in a pinch. Money dried up on Dzingel and had to settle for a two year deal at much less AAV than what he originally wanted.
- Assman22


Dzingel was benched in the play-offs. Hardly a great signing.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 12 @ 11:07 AM ET
Now that you mention it, it's been a while since Stan made a deal. I have a feeling another move is coming today, but it could be just gas I'm feeling, not too sure yet.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 12 @ 11:07 AM ET
Quite a number also getting on the ice to occasionally play some semi-serious games against other pros (current and past). If you're in Chicago, the games are only $5 per ticket and you can stand at the glass or sit in the stands. When it's a hot day, it's a perfect respite.

Active Hawks System
Toews
Kane
DBC
Strome
Beaudin
Louis
Boqvist
Murphy
Vlasic
Broadhurst

Some Hawks Alums
Bollig
Darling
Pirri
Hinostroza
Hartman

Saw Q and StanBo at a couple of the games last year. Good way for them to see the new guys on ice in a lower pressure situation.

This year, they've also got a women's division (Kendall Coyne was on Kane's team last year)

- pdx2ord

Bollig should have switched to defense 6'2" 230 could skate a little. Michal Rozival type.
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