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oil90
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ON
Joined: 12.05.2010

Jul 11 @ 5:27 PM ET
The organization helped him get sober, and trading a player for another good player or players is part of the business. Would hardly call that an afterthought especially with the way that they spoke of him after he left.

Monahan and Gaudreau both had career years last season. Yeah they totally fell apart without that glue guy there. Great points all around though. A rope sounds like a grand idea for you you should really look into it.

- PoketheBear

Great year indeed... in the playoffs??? Where were the flames top players. I know the canes did alot better than expected...
oil90
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ON
Joined: 12.05.2010

Jul 11 @ 5:33 PM ET
You keep bringing up the Kadri thing despite KADRI HIMSELF saying he nixed the deal because he wanted to stay a Maple Leaf, not because he had anything against Calgary or the Flames.

And Ferland was the glue that held Gaudreau and Monahan together? Is that why they both had career years without him even on the team, let alone their line?

The Flames helped Ferland get sober and they helped him become the player he is. They didn't want to lose him in the first place. You can listen to Tre's interview after the trade and find that out. Ferland wasn't treated like an afterthought. Anything but. Trades are part of the business. Ferland knows that. If he was so against going back to Calgary he wouldn't have met with the Flames in the first place.

You should really do some research before trolling because you look like an idiot.

- Helios


He could have refused Colorado and the avs wouldn't have traded for him. He has to protect his image. He may have wanted to stay a leaf but surely didn't want Calgary...that much is obvious. And the avs have a great future and character players...key word character...kadri has a bad rep and prob didn't want to make it worse with tchachuk,Giordano,gaudreau dragging it down more...
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 11 @ 5:35 PM ET
Show us the quote where he said that. Instead of I'm here to win and be part of the solution...oh and signing an 8 year deal. When you draft class like mcdavid thats what u get. When you draft trash like tkachuk you get disappearing acts and spear jobs and ill-timed penalties...
- oil90

Kassian is on your first line...

enough said?
FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

Jul 11 @ 5:46 PM ET
He could have refused Colorado and the avs wouldn't have traded for him. He has to protect his image. He may have wanted to stay a leaf but surely didn't want Calgary...that much is obvious. And the avs have a great future and character players...key word character...kadri has a bad rep and prob didn't want to make it worse with tchachuk,Giordano,gaudreau dragging it down more...
- oil90


I see your mom let you have internet access for the day. You talk smack about the Flames losing in the first round after winning 50 games so why aren't talking smack about Tampa? BTW I'm sure McDavid will want out of Edmonton very soon they keep staying the same, dumb as (frank) with management. Have you found the rope and tree yet??
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jul 11 @ 5:50 PM ET
Kassian is on your first line...

enough said?

- geta02it


Meh his production wasn’t bad he actually looked like he fit in at times....better then the 6 million dollar plug we currently have
PoketheBear
Boston Bruins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.09.2014

Jul 11 @ 6:30 PM ET
Great year indeed... in the playoffs??? Where were the flames top players. I know the canes did alot better than expected...
- oil90


Well Ferland was hurt for most of the playoffs anyway so I'm not really sure what that has to do work anything.

You forgot to address the rest of my post tho, like how trading a player makes him an afterthought to the organization. I know this may come as a shock to you Oiler fans and the morons that run your team but most of the time when a trade is made, quality pieces go both ways. Doesn't mean the team thinks any less of them as people.
Helios
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.11.2016

Jul 11 @ 6:39 PM ET
Well Ferland was hurt for most of the playoffs anyway so I'm not really sure what that has to do work anything.

You forgot to address the rest of my post tho, like how trading a player makes him an afterthought to the organization. I know this may come as a shock to you Oiler fans and the morons that run your team but most of the time when a trade is made, quality pieces go both ways. Doesn't mean the team thinks any less of them as people.

- PoketheBear


You'll have to forgive him for not knowing anything about the playoffs. He's the fan of a team that only makes it once every 15 years, it only makes sense he'd be unknowledgable about them.

Why he thinks teams hate players because they were traded, though, I don't know. Probably some kind of self defense mechanism to try to give the appearance that every team in the League is managed as horribly as the Oilers are.
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Jul 11 @ 6:45 PM ET
Dude are you even out of diapers yet? Why don’t you go to the nearest hardware store buy some rope, go to the closest tree and hang yourself?!?!
- Clyde334

PoketheBear
Boston Bruins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.09.2014

Jul 11 @ 6:58 PM ET
You'll have to forgive him for not knowing anything about the playoffs. He's the fan of a team that only makes it once every 15 years, it only makes sense he'd be unknowledgable about them.

Why he thinks teams hate players because they were traded, though, I don't know. Probably some lind of self defense mechanism to try to give the appearance that every team in the League is managed as horribly as the Oilers are.

- Helios


It is actually funny, ignorance or not to hear him talk about class and the Oilers in the same breath. Go listen to Souray or Smid talk about Oilers brass and their injuries and then talk to me about class.
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Jul 11 @ 7:23 PM ET
It is actually funny, ignorance or not to hear him talk about class and the Oilers in the same breath. Go listen to Souray or Smid talk about Oilers brass and their injuries and then talk to me about class.
- PoketheBear


I just talked to both and they openly admitted they were being little female doges and couldn't come to terms with their careers being over.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jul 11 @ 7:43 PM ET
He could have refused Colorado and the avs wouldn't have traded for him. He has to protect his image. He may have wanted to stay a leaf but surely didn't want Calgary...that much is obvious. And the avs have a great future and character players...key word character...kadri has a bad rep and prob didn't want to make it worse with tchachuk,Giordano,gaudreau dragging it down more...
- oil90



You should get a job instead of hanging in your parents basement with your junk in your hand oil90!
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Location: I like everyone
Joined: 08.24.2011

Jul 11 @ 7:49 PM ET
Well Ferland was hurt for most of the playoffs anyway so I'm not really sure what that has to do work anything.

You forgot to address the rest of my post tho, like how trading a player makes him an afterthought to the organization. I know this may come as a shock to you Oiler fans and the morons that run your team but most of the time when a trade is made, quality pieces go both ways. Doesn't mean the team thinks any less of them as people.

- PoketheBear

No he didn’t. He’s a troll. It’d be better if we just ignored him.
Hewey8
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 09.02.2018

Jul 11 @ 8:38 PM ET
People are making a mountain out of a mole hill here. Kadri wanted to stay in Toronto and he tried to use a clause in his contract to make that happen.

Have people already forgotten the notable free agents we've picked up the last few years?

Quine & Czarnik (chose calgary despite interest from other teams)
Foo (targeted by basically the whole league)
Neal (Sure he got paid, but he came here to win a cup)
Cervanka (had a pile of interest from other teams)
Brouwer (bust, but still chose to come here)

Part of the pitch meeting for most of these guys would be the vacant RW slot with Johnny and Money. We'll always be at a disadvantage recruiting big name American and Russian FA's (lower taxes, less pressure, warm weather).

But as far as attracting free agents, this franchise has probably never looked more appealing to some free agents than they do now (having a good young d and forward core that's expected to challenge for a cup will do that to a team--e.g Chicago).

- Saskabush[/quote

2-12 in last 3 playoff series !!! That's why he didn't come. flames are too soft in the forward position. VERY TALENTED forward group but TOO SOFT, when it comes down to it the top line gets scared of the middle of the ice during playoffs and can't handle it. Its really quite obvious when you watch the videos, Win all the division titles you want but when it comes down to crunch time the Flames don't have what it takes.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Leafs Losers Even After Fifty-one Seasons
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 11 @ 9:22 PM ET
You keep bringing up the Kadri thing despite KADRI HIMSELF saying he nixed the deal because he wanted to stay a Maple Leaf, not because he had anything against Calgary or the Flames.

And Ferland was the glue that held Gaudreau and Monahan together? Is that why they both had career years without him even on the team, let alone their line?

The Flames helped Ferland get sober and they helped him become the player he is. They didn't want to lose him in the first place. You can listen to Tre's interview after the trade and find that out. Ferland wasn't treated like an afterthought. Anything but. Trades are part of the business. Ferland knows that. If he was so against going back to Calgary he wouldn't have met with the Flames in the first place.

You should really do some research before trolling because you look like an idiot.

- Helios


The guy is a piece of SH!T. You should really just ignore him. He's a closet Flames fan that shows up here like a diaper rash.
I agree with Clydes suggestion, will even send the rope.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 11 @ 10:56 PM ET
Kevin R
Best idea Ive heard all summer.

Now if you only knew how to tie a knot.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Jul 12 @ 12:36 AM ET
he can't be OS'd apparently
- Nucker101


Really? Hadn't heard that.
Nucker101
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ESKETIT
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 12 @ 12:44 AM ET
Really? Hadn't heard that.
- Saskabush


Apparently he's ineligible because the KHL doesn't count towards the 3 seasons played that you need to be offer sheet eligible.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jul 12 @ 9:00 AM ET
No he didn’t. He’s a troll. It’d be better if we just ignored him.
- Ol_Boy_Wop


Yeah days like these I miss Jero and Iggy. They talked a lot of poop, but it was not just blind stupidity.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Jul 12 @ 3:01 PM ET
Apparently he's ineligible because the KHL doesn't count towards the 3 seasons played that you need to be offer sheet eligible.
- Nucker101



(frank) the rules, just get Feaster to toss in an offer sheet


Harry Jay Feaster is a National Hockey League executive currently serving as the Executive Director of Community Hockey Development for the Tampa Bay Lightning. Wikipedia


(frank) some poop up Jay!
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: World Wide
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 12 @ 5:49 PM ET
Did the Flames really want Ferland back? Cap issues seem to be a theme for most teams now. Perhaps next CBA buyouts shouldn't count against the cap or there should be a minimum number (2?) that can be waived.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jul 12 @ 6:08 PM ET
Did the Flames really want Ferland back? Cap issues seem to be a theme for most teams now. Perhaps next CBA buyouts shouldn't count against the cap or there should be a minimum number (2?) that can be waived.
- NuckUp


I think the Flames were interested in Ferland. If he's healthy, 3.5 is a good deal. Health is an issue though. Guaranteed contacts are tough. There's a good chance any player's game can fall off a cliff especially after 30. Maybe one or two get out of jail free cards per 5 years of CBA. The team would still have to pay the player but not count against the cap. It sucks for fans watching the same player with a bad contract year after year.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jul 12 @ 7:22 PM ET
Did the Flames really want Ferland back? Cap issues seem to be a theme for most teams now. Perhaps next CBA buyouts shouldn't count against the cap or there should be a minimum number (2?) that can be waived.
- NuckUp


If the Flames didn't have Neal taking up 5.75 million a year, Treliving would have probably overpaid Ferland weeks ago. I bet he would have given him 4+ for 5 years.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Leafs Losers Even After Fifty-one Seasons
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 12 @ 7:48 PM ET
If the Flames didn't have Neal taking up 5.75 million a year, Treliving would have probably overpaid Ferland weeks ago. I bet he would have given him 4+ for 5 years.
- Hunkulese

How much?
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Location: I like everyone
Joined: 08.24.2011

Jul 12 @ 7:51 PM ET
Yeah days like these I miss Jero and Iggy. They talked a lot of poop, but it was not just blind stupidity.
- DuranDuran

There will never be anyone around that could banter like those two.
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