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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jul 3 @ 10:23 AM ET
Todd Cordell: On the New Jersey Devils' cap situation and a Will Butcher contract update
cu45161
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.26.2016

Jul 3 @ 10:31 AM ET
Todd do you think we can still get Gusev

are we even looking into Gusev ?
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jul 3 @ 10:33 AM ET
If anyone still worries about Simmonds, read the [email protected] on nhl.com with him, listen to what Shero says about him. It made me love that we got him even more.

He's totally not what I thought.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 3 @ 11:11 AM ET
Todd Cordell: On the New Jersey Devils' cap situation and a Will Butcher contract update
- Todd.Cordell

I’d like a longer deal for butcher, hopefully turns out to be one of those deals that are a steal.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 3 @ 11:15 AM ET
Todd do you think we can still get Gusev

are we even looking into Gusev ?

- cu45161


May have looked but doubt we would get him
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jul 3 @ 11:29 AM ET

I think we are done except for maybe that one unknown depth player Ray signs late when he can get a good deal. Who will be this years PJ Parenteau or Drew Stafford?

It's a bit disappointing because I feel like we are really close to being a damn good club. I'd be stoked if we could get Gusev or one more good piece.
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 3 @ 11:40 AM ET
I think we are done except for maybe that one unknown depth player Ray signs late when he can get a good deal. Who will be this years PJ Parenteau or Drew Stafford?

It's a bit disappointing because I feel like we are really close to being a damn good club. I'd be stoked if we could get Gusev or one more good piece.

- Queenie_5_hole

I think you are right. The open question is, based on Hall's previous comments, has the team improved enough to sign long term. Hopefully Shero finds out that answer and takes the next appropriate steps.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
I think we are done except for maybe that one unknown depth player Ray signs late when he can get a good deal. Who will be this years PJ Parenteau or Drew Stafford?

It's a bit disappointing because I feel like we are really close to being a damn good club. I'd be stoked if we could get Gusev or one more good piece.

- Queenie_5_hole

Pirri or Pominville is my guess
Devilstz
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.23.2019

Jul 3 @ 12:13 PM ET
We don't need depth players. We have lots of them..
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 3 @ 12:25 PM ET
We don't need depth players. We have lots of them..
- Devilstz

We’ll sign someone anyway
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 3 @ 12:30 PM ET
I'm still hoping that Ray makes a move for Gusev.

Also signing depth players is still fine because it's not like the majority of the AHL guys were tearing it up with all the ice time they were given last year.
djsnippets
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.09.2017

Jul 3 @ 12:34 PM ET
I'm still hoping that Ray makes a move for Gusev.

Also signing depth players is still fine because it's not like the majority of the AHL guys were tearing it up with all the ice time they were given last year.

- Pomegrant


I would go after Gusev too.

Is it possible for us to try and trade to get our own 2nd round pick for next years draft, then be able to offer the right compensation for an offer sheet?
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 3 @ 12:39 PM ET
I would go after Gusev too.

Is it possible for us to try and trade to get our own 2nd round pick for next years draft, then be able to offer the right compensation for an offer sheet?

- djsnippets

I believe you have to have your original pick and it can't be just any team's 2nd round pick. $4,227,437 and below is a 2nd round pick, and $4,227,438 and a above is a 1st and a 3rd. So it'll be interesting to see if teams are interested in trying to sign Gusev for, but I think Vegas would be able to match and hit the upper limit of their cap overage for the offseason.
djsnippets
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.09.2017

Jul 3 @ 12:44 PM ET
I believe you have to have your original pick and it can't be just any team's 2nd round pick. $4,227,437 and below is a 2nd round pick, and $4,227,438 and a above is a 1st and a 3rd. So it'll be interesting to see if teams are interested in trying to sign Gusev for, but I think Vegas would be able to match and hit the upper limit of their cap overage for the offseason.
- Pomegrant


That's what i mean though, If we traded with Nashville to get our own 2nd rounder for next year back (that we traded them in the Subban deal).
dcolli18
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 06.24.2019

Jul 3 @ 12:45 PM ET
That's what i mean though, If we traded with Nashville to get our own 2nd rounder for next year back (that we traded them in the Subban deal).
- djsnippets


Can't offer sheet Gusev. He hasn't played a game in the NHL.
djsnippets
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.09.2017

Jul 3 @ 12:46 PM ET
Can't offer sheet Gusev because he never played a game in the NHL.
- dcolli18


What i meant was i would rather go for Gusev first, 2 years and 4 million per year is easily manageable.

If not, then we could go the offer sheet route. Was just curious if we could say trade our 2nd in 2021 to nashville to recoup our own 2nd rounder for 2020 so that we would then have the compensation needed for an offer sheet.
dcolli18
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 06.24.2019

Jul 3 @ 12:51 PM ET
What i meant was i would rather go for Gusev first, 2 years and 4 million per year is easily manageable.

If not, then we could go the offer sheet route. Was just curious if we could say trade our 2nd in 2021 to nashville to recoup our own 2nd rounder for 2020 so that we would then have the compensation needed for an offer sheet.

- djsnippets


I agree we should go after him but what I'm saying is the only way to get him is via a trade. He is ineligible to receive an offer sheet.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jul 3 @ 12:55 PM ET
What i meant was i would rather go for Gusev first, 2 years and 4 million per year is easily manageable.

If not, then we could go the offer sheet route. Was just curious if we could say trade our 2nd in 2021 to nashville to recoup our own 2nd rounder for 2020 so that we would then have the compensation needed for an offer sheet.

- djsnippets



The problem isn't Gusev's contract, it's getting his rights from Vegas. No idea what Vegas is asking or how it could work out; but it would be great to work something out... and maybe Jon Merrill back also. (KIDDING).
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jul 3 @ 12:57 PM ET
Pirri or Pominville is my guess
- shvingter88


Looks like good guesses. No idea if Poms has anything left but Pirri wouldn't be the worst. That Mike Folik option is looking better...
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 3 @ 1:27 PM ET
Look like good guesses. No idea if Poms has anything left but Pirri wouldn't be the worst. That Mike Folik option is looking better...
- Queenie_5_hole

Whoever we get one thing is certain



DOOMED
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:34 PM ET
Looks like good guesses. No idea if Poms has anything left but Pirri wouldn't be the worst. That Mike Folik option is looking better...
- Queenie_5_hole


I thought Pirri signed already?
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jul 3 @ 2:46 PM ET
I thought Pirri signed already?
- Gambi99



You are correct! I didn't see that.

Looks like a good bargain for Vegas.

https://www.cbssports.com...back-for-more-with-vegas/
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 3 @ 2:51 PM ET
I’d like a longer deal for butcher, hopefully turns out to be one of those deals that are a steal.
- shvingter88



Yep, I’d like to buy up some of his UFA years with this contract, we aren’t exactly deep on the left side.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 3 @ 2:56 PM ET
I think we are done except for maybe that one unknown depth player Ray signs late when he can get a good deal. Who will be this years PJ Parenteau or Drew Stafford?

It's a bit disappointing because I feel like we are really close to being a damn good club. I'd be stoked if we could get Gusev or one more good piece.

- Queenie_5_hole



There’s no saying that Noesen won’t be back, he’s still out there (as is Drew Stafford). Also one Ben Lovejoy remains unsigned.

Not sure Vegas is going to be keen on shopping Gusev. Ferland is still out there though, wondering what his demands are.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 3 @ 2:58 PM ET
Yep, I’d like to buy up some of his UFA years with this contract, we aren’t exactly deep on the left side.
- smellmyfinger


come now. there is no end to our depth! Hall, Bratt, Zacha, Wood, Boqvist! Look at that depth! Good thing we signed a 3rd line guy for the right side! Coleman can go on the left too. In all seriousness, we could be ok on the left.

Hall-Hischier-Palmieri
Bratt-Hughes-..Simmonds?
Zacha-Zajac-Coleman
Wood-Rooney/Boqvist-Bastian/McLeod

If we bump Simmonds down..

Hall-Hischier-Bratt
Zacha-Hughes-Palmieri
Coleman-Zajac-Simmonds
Wood-Rooney/Boqvist-Bastian/Mcleod

a 2nd line winger would fix so much.
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