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123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 4 @ 9:18 AM ET
Well, if any of those 3 are dirt cheap... not the worst thing out there. Its when he overpays for replacement level veterans its an issue.
- Guile



agreed! Maybe a 1 year boost their net worth type of deal (while potentially playing for a cup).
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 4 @ 9:21 AM ET
agreed! Maybe a 1 year boost their net worth type of deal (while potentially playing for a cup).
- 123Kid



ESPECIALLY if we somehow get rid of JJ. Then one of those guys to be paired with Gud while Petts tests the waters with Schultz is a good risk signing.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 4 @ 9:27 AM ET
Dale Tallon's best days in hockey was in the 2nd balcony perch at Chicago Stadium. Doing colour commentary beside the great Pat Foley.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 4 @ 9:33 AM ET
Well, found the segment Pagnotta was on the Fan for... now to listen in the background for that JJ info.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 4 @ 9:39 AM ET
https://937thefan.radio.c...s-galchenyuk-trade-kessel

9 Minute mark is where Jack Johnson talk is brought up and it IS mentioned for being 'the guy' the Penguins are probably going to be the one moved to shed cap.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 4 @ 9:40 AM ET
If I'm JR I'd be circling back to Minnesota for a deal. Pair up JJ, Bjugstad and a 1st for Zucker.

Hell, even revisit a deal for Rask. JJ and Rust might get it done.

The Pens will need a couple mil and some roster space cleared up to have a shot at a value signing.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 4 @ 9:41 AM ET
If I'm JR I'd be circling back to Minnesota for a deal. Pair up JJ, Bjugstad and a 1st for Zucker.

Hell, even revisit a deal for Rask. JJ and Rust might get it done.

The Pens will need a couple mil and some roster space cleared up to have a shot at a value signing.

- MacPatty



(frank)... Where the (frank) you going to play Rask if you get him swapped for Johnson? That would 100% kick Bluegar out of the starting 12
Grizzsh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.24.2019

Jul 4 @ 9:49 AM ET
Damn, boys. If JJ could be traded.... ugh I wouldnโ€™t know what to do.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 4 @ 9:51 AM ET
Damn, boys. If JJ could be traded.... ugh I wouldnโ€™t know what to do.
- Grizzsh


You'd be doing this, like many of us would
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 4 @ 9:57 AM ET
(frank)... Where the (frank) you going to play Rask if you get him swapped for Johnson? That would 100% kick Bluegar out of the starting 12
- Guile


Happy 4th of July... get into the moonshine bright and early did you?

As I mentioned the Zucker trade would be ideal.

In the Rask suggestion he likely fits somewhere in the bottom 6. Blueger needs to be able to beat someone out for a spot, even if that means Rask being on the bench. If Blueger can't beat out any of the current roster players then he should be kept in the minors.
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 4 @ 10:05 AM ET
Happy 4th of July folks!!!๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐ŸŽ‰

If they move JJ, Rust and a first, I truly hope they consider to make a play for Gardiner.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 4 @ 10:13 AM ET
Happy 4th of July folks!!!๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐ŸŽ‰

If they move JJ, Rust and a first, I truly hope they consider to make a play for Gardiner.

- Doogs


Agreed. Gardiner isn't my favorite player and I think he will be overpaid but he would be perfect to round out the LD on the 2nd pair.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 4 @ 10:27 AM ET
I wouldn't mind trading a few players away if we ended up signing one of: Ryan Dzingel, Micheal Ferland, Jake Gardiner, or Marcus Johansson. I'm surprised these players are still available honestly! JR has pulled off crazier feats so we can all hope he trades JJ and someone else to open up some cap space. Sadly as I posted above though. I think he will sign someone like Phaneuf, Lovejoy, or McQuaid for the bottom pairing if the previous JJ rumors is true.
- 123Kid

From what I've read, most of the better names holding up the market are waiting for teams to clear cap space. I'm real curious to see where Gardiner ends up. Montreal seemed the obvious fit to me and they still have all kinds of space after not getting Aho.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 4 @ 10:29 AM ET
I'd say if there's any truth to that JJ rumour he'd be disposed of much like Hunwick. So instead of Sheary, Hunwick and a 2nd(?)....it'll be Rust, JJ and a pick.

That move would clear 6.75 mill in cap space.

Low bawling Petts, ZAR and Teddy total cap hit id say would come in around 4/4.5 mill.

- MattStrat

I keep reading they want to go the other way with Pettersson on a long-term deal around 3M. That's a bargain if he's in your top 4, but I care more about the next few years and would rather do a 2-3 year bridge deal.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jul 4 @ 10:29 AM ET
Pens, Isles and Devils with very strong interest in Gusev... as many as 10 teams with some interest
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 4 @ 10:30 AM ET
https://937thefan.radio.com/articles/david-pagnotta-likes-galchenyuk-trade-kessel

9 Minute mark is where Jack Johnson talk is brought up and it IS mentioned for being 'the guy' the Penguins are probably going to be the one moved to shed cap.

- Guile

Glad you found it, I might have to listen to it again later.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 4 @ 10:42 AM ET
Pens, Isles and Devils with very strong interest in Gusev... as many as 10 teams with some interest
- pens4life-66



I wouldn't mind Gusev coming back to Pittsburgh. I would assume we would have to move another contract to sign him though.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 4 @ 10:47 AM ET
Watch the Leafs trade Nylander. Look at their cap position. If youโ€™re going to keep Mitch ya basically gotta trade Willie. Tons of teams out West will have interest
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
I would still trade Horny over Bjugstad, but I would assume Bjugstad, rust and or JJ will be moved especially if we traded for Gusev (I could see Simon moved since Vegas has cap issues). Logically I would say Horny, JJ and Simon would be traded and our lines would be

Guentzel - Crosby - Kahun
Galchenyuk - Malkin - Gusev
McCann - Bjugstad - Tanev
Zach Aston-Reese - Blueger - Wilson (if he resigns or Bjorkqvist).

Mccann on the 3rd to limit his time a bit due to his PK ability.

Letang - Dumoulin
Schultz - Pettersson
Gudbranson - Riikola (or FA signing)



Power play could be Guentzel - Crosby - Galchenyuk or Gusev with Malkin and Letang as D. Or Guentzel - Crosby - Malkin with Letang and Schultz as the D.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 4 @ 11:00 AM ET
I wouldn't mind Gusev coming back to Pittsburgh. I would assume we would have to move another contract to sign him though.
- 123Kid



JR and McPhee have some good face from the expansion draft and the Brass and Reaves trades, I know McPhee isnt the GM anymore but hes still there....also the Pens and Knights have already pulled off a 3 way trade. So they have that experience together.

These two things alone give me a smidgen of hope for Gusev.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 4 @ 11:04 AM ET
Pens, Isles and Devils with very strong interest in Gusev... as many as 10 teams with some interest
- pens4life-66

Where are you seeing this?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 4 @ 11:07 AM ET
I would still trade Horny over Bjugstad, but I would assume Bjugstad, rust and or JJ will be moved especially if we traded for Gusev (I could see Simon moved since Vegas has cap issues). Logically I would say Horny, JJ and Simon would be traded and our lines would be

Guentzel - Crosby - Kahun
Galchenyuk - Malkin - Gusev
McCann - Bjugstad - Tanev
Zach Aston-Reese - Blueger - Wilson (if he resigns or Bjorkqvist).

Mccann on the 3rd to limit his time a bit due to his PK ability.

Letang - Dumoulin
Schultz - Pettersson
Gudbranson - Riikola (or FA signing)



Power play could be Guentzel - Crosby - Galchenyuk or Gusev with Malkin and Letang as D. Or Guentzel - Crosby - Malkin with Letang and Schultz as the D.

- 123Kid

If they got Gusev, I would definitely want him on the top PPs he happens to play Phil's spot.

This will likely cost futures and/or cheap players, but the system looks stronger after adding Joseph, Poulin, and Legare.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 4 @ 11:18 AM ET
Glad you found it, I might have to listen to it again later.
- Tojo.



Np. I'm still trying to refind the tweet someone threw at mark madden a couple weeks ago showing that JJ was no better in the 2nd half of the season.

Can't remember who posted it up here.


edit: nvm, my dumbass brain realized it was on my phone history, not my PC. Got it.

Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 4 @ 11:28 AM ET
I would still trade Horny over Bjugstad, but I would assume Bjugstad, rust and or JJ will be moved especially if we traded for Gusev (I could see Simon moved since Vegas has cap issues). Logically I would say Horny, JJ and Simon would be traded and our lines would be

Guentzel - Crosby - Kahun
Galchenyuk - Malkin - Gusev
McCann - Bjugstad - Tanev
Zach Aston-Reese - Blueger - Wilson (if he resigns or Bjorkqvist).

Mccann on the 3rd to limit his time a bit due to his PK ability.

Letang - Dumoulin
Schultz - Pettersson
Gudbranson - Riikola (or FA signing)



Power play could be Guentzel - Crosby - Galchenyuk or Gusev with Malkin and Letang as D. Or Guentzel - Crosby - Malkin with Letang and Schultz as the D.

- 123Kid

Mccaan Tanev or Wilson have to be with Crosby or Malkin. Someone who will forecheck and be the first guy in. Really hoping Wilson is resigned. A lot more to that guy than carrying a Cullen line around.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 4 @ 11:31 AM ET
Mccaan Tanev or Wilson have to be with Crosby or Malkin. Someone who will forecheck and be the first guy in. Really hoping Wilson is resigned. A lot more to that guy than carrying a Cullen line around.
- Grinder47



Galchenyuk and Kahun are pretty good on the forecheck.
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