burgh4life87
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.22.2014
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If they could get Gusev, would you be willing to move Galchenyuk if that was the only way to find the salary to make it happen? I would, think Gusev fits better because he can play Kessel's PP spot and has more upside
Would be two trades because Vegas is going to want cheap players or futures, but Galchenyuk would be an easy flip to recoup some of that. - Tojo.
For Gusev, I would honestly be comfortable sending Hornqvist somewhere and I'm a big fan of Hornqvist. He just screams 60 plus points and hi end possession forward who would absolutely help Malkin out. Also, Galchenyuk is comfortable on the off wing as well so you wouldn't have to flip him right away. |
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j.boyd919
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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If they could get Gusev, would you be willing to move Galchenyuk if that was the only way to find the salary to make it happen? I would, think Gusev fits better because he can play Kessel's PP spot and has more upside
Would be two trades because Vegas is going to want cheap players or futures, but Galchenyuk would be an easy flip to recoup some of that. - Tojo.
100% would rather have Gusev than Galchenyuk, Tanev, or Rust.
Do something like 1st + Hallander/Addison for Gusevs rights. And then deal Galch or Rust elsewhere. |
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j.boyd919
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Oh I would be 100% for this. I was making this pitch a week ago on here. I was replying to Wilson's comment under the Montreal analysis. He stated they have the room to offer sheet Gusev, but Gusev is not eligible for group 2 free agency therefor he isn't able to receive an offer sheet. - burgh4life87
Oooh roger that. My bad. |
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100% would rather have Gusev than Galchenyuk, Tanev, or Rust.
Do something like 1st + Hallander/Addison for Gusevs rights. And then deal Galch or Rust elsewhere. - j.boyd919
After what McCrimmon let Miller go for I would be upset if that’s what GMJR gave up for Gusev. I’m all for bringing him in but I want to buy low on the guy. Based off what McCrimmon’s done I don’t see any reason to offer more than a couple picks and none of our top prospects |
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burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.22.2014
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After what McCrimmon let Miller go for I would be upset if that’s what GMJR gave up for Gusev. I’m all for bringing him in but I want to buy low on the guy. Based off what McCrimmon’s done I don’t see any reason to offer more than a couple picks and none of our top prospects - WSCTeton17
Who is McCrimmon? |
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burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.22.2014
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100% would rather have Gusev than Galchenyuk, Tanev, or Rust.
Do something like 1st + Hallander/Addison for Gusevs rights. And then deal Galch or Rust elsewhere. - j.boyd919
3rd rounder and Tristian Jarry. Gives them a much more affordable goaltender and depth in the organization, to which they don't have much of. I don't think getting him from vegas is the tough part. The tough part is finding a trading partner for us to take salary. |
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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Oh I would be 100% for this. I was making this pitch a week ago on here. I was replying to Wilson's comment under the Montreal analysis. He stated they have the room to offer sheet Gusev, but Gusev is not eligible for group 2 free agency therefor he isn't able to receive an offer sheet. - burgh4life87
I didn't think you had to be. Wasn't Aho also not eligible for group 2 free agency. Not saying you're wrong, I really don't know the rule. |
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Forwards weren’t the problem last year. The defenses inability to move the puck is the problem. I’ve yet to see that addressed. - j.boyd919
The problem was the team had no identity, and got outworked by a hungrier team.
This has been addressed. |
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hawk35
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: NF Joined: 08.26.2009
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Kerfoot and Shore as well forgot those two. Kerfoot is a solid addition. - j.boyd919
Ok. Kerfoot decent, I agree....shore...a nothing.
And still when you line it up player for player, leafs are no better, and likely slightly worse than last year. |
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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For Gusev, I would honestly be comfortable sending Hornqvist somewhere and I'm a big fan of Hornqvist. He just screams 60 plus points and hi end possession forward who would absolutely help Malkin out. Also, Galchenyuk is comfortable on the off wing as well so you wouldn't have to flip him right away. - burgh4life87
Yeah, I'd rather do that too, I just think it's way harder to move Hornqvist's deal and since they already are over, I'm not sure there's another way to clear enough money. I'm open to other ways, just pointing out a way I know can work. |
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Who is McCrimmon? - burgh4life87
Kelly McCrimmon is the new sheriff in Vegas. McPhee is now Team President |
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I didn't think you had to be. Wasn't Aho also not eligible for group 2 free agency. Not saying you're wrong, I really don't know the rule. - Tojo.
Nope. Gusev along with Boeser and a few other RFAs were not granted offer sheet status for this free agency period |
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burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.22.2014
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I didn't think you had to be. Wasn't Aho also not eligible for group 2 free agency. Not saying you're wrong, I really don't know the rule. - Tojo.
You have to be group 2 or group 4 to receive an offer sheet.
Aho played three seasons before turning 22, which makes him a group 2.
Playing 2 seasons before turning 24 renders you a Group 2.
Playing a single season 24 to 27 renders you a Group 2.
Gusev has never played therefore is technically in the same category as a guy you just drafted. |
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burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.22.2014
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Kelly McCrimmon is the new sheriff in Vegas. McPhee is now Team President - WSCTeton17
Oh man, I must have missed that announcement |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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What could have been...
Edit: I used Dadonov as a Gusev stand in. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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100% would rather have Gusev than Galchenyuk, Tanev, or Rust.
Do something like 1st + Hallander/Addison for Gusevs rights. And then deal Galch or Rust elsewhere. - j.boyd919
Well, Gusev has shown to be a big point producer in the North American game. Definitely worth a first pick and a top-5 system prospect. |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Well, Gusev has shown to be a big point producer in the North American game. Definitely worth a first pick and a top-5 system prospect. - jmatchett383
Cool. We’re in agreement. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Cool. We’re in agreement. - j.boyd919
Yep. Time has shown that all European players always have a flawless adjustment to the North American game after having never played here at 26 years of age.
Seriously, if you can get the guy for some beans because Vegas can't sign him, then great, take a flier. But if you're gonna give up a 1st rounder and a top-5 prospect for a guy with zero pro NA experience...I don't know man. |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Yep. Time has shown that all European players always have a flawless adjustment to the North American game after having never played here at 26 years of age. - jmatchett383
Awesome. I knew history was on my side. |
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What could have been...
Edit: I used Dadonov as a Gusev stand in. - j.boyd919
Isn’t using a roster under 23 the same thing you jump on Rino for? 🤔 |
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Cousinskrid
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: the BURGH, PA Joined: 03.08.2018
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Gusev is reportedly looking for 2yrs at 4M. Good job GMJR. - j.boyd919
Maybe he's not done yet. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Forwards weren’t the problem last year. The defenses inability to move the puck is the problem. I’ve yet to see that addressed. - j.boyd919
Nor does JR think that's a problem which is insanely mind boggling and maddening all at once. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Who is McCrimmon? - burgh4life87
McFiened for lackluster trades. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Kelly McCrimmon is the new sheriff in Vegas. McPhee is now Team President - WSCTeton17
Oh...I didnt know that. |
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Cousinskrid
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: the BURGH, PA Joined: 03.08.2018
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Forwards weren’t the problem last year. The defenses inability to move the puck is the problem. I’ve yet to see that addressed. - j.boyd919
I would suggest this was ONE of the problems, but not the only one by far. And no, it has not been addressed. |
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