Dumbest comment of the day
- JiggsDinner

I’m taking it that you haven’t seen a spatso comment today, eh?

I’m taking it that you haven’t seen a spatso comment today, eh?
- Yzerman|sTheMan

We got a 1st/2nd/3rd for Tomas Tatar lol

Regarding the offer sheet...

All signs point toward the #Canes matching the offer, bringing Aho under contract for the next five years.

@NHLCanes
- HockeyBuzz

Not according to his agent!!

The absolute best thing to come from this offer sheet was the term, and $$$... I think it set the market for the remaining comparable RFAs

Why are people talking about a trade? The Habs made an offer to a RFA. Either Carolina matches or they don’t. If don’t they match the offer then AHO stays in Carolina and they are not allowed to trade AHO for at least one year. That’s it. There is no trade.

They can agree to the trade, give the draft picks back and do a legit trade
- koarik91

No they can’t

I just don't see the Canes letting him go away ... they will match the offer for sure.

This all about telling fans (and veterans players) that they want to win. The Habs clearly didn't want to invest any money into what is left in the UFA market, we have promising prospects coming out of our Ying Yang right now and a ton of picks in the next few years.

This is just a poker move ... let's see if the opponent will blink.

The Carolina #Hurricanes will have 7 days to match the offer sheet that the Montreal #Canadiens have sent to Sebastian Aho, and if they choose to match, they are restricted from trading him for 1 year

Why are people talking about a trade? The Habs made an offer to a RFA. Either Carolina matches or they don’t. If don’t they match the offer then AHO stays in Carolina and they are not allowed to trade AHO for at least one year. That’s it. There is no trade.
- chelios_24

They can make a trade. It's not very likely, but they can. If Carolina doesn't want to match but want a bigger return they can try and get a trade done. Montreal has to believe that they'll match if they can't figure out a trade though.

Like, technically it wouldn't be a trade for Aho, but Carolina can tell Montreal that they will match the offer sheet unless they give them what they want.

They can make a trade. It's not very likely, but they can. If Carolina doesn't want to match but want a bigger return they can try and get a trade done. Montreal has to believe that they'll match if they can't figure out a trade though.

Like, technically it wouldn't be a trade for Aho, but Carolina can tell Montreal that they will match the offer sheet unless they give them what they want.
- Hunkulese

Right. For example : Carolina doesn't match because they have an agreement with the Habs (nothing official).

Habs send the 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks as compensation.

As a separate trade previously agreed upon, Habs take back their picks (all or some) and trade back the return Carolina would actually want for Aho (picks, prospects, players, etc.)

They can make a trade. It's not very likely, but they can. If Carolina doesn't want to match but want a bigger return they can try and get a trade done. Montreal has to believe that they'll match if they can't figure out a trade though.

Like, technically it wouldn't be a trade for Aho, but Carolina can tell Montreal that they will match the offer sheet unless they give them what they want.
- Hunkulese

Yeah.... they're just gonna match. It's a pretty pathetic offer sheet.

Yeah.... they're just gonna match. It's a pretty pathetic offer sheet.
- BINGO!

Even if the whole signing bonus shenanigans scared them, I don't even know what Montreal could possibly offer to make them consider it a good deal. Drouin and 2 or 3 firsts? Even then I'd rather just have Aho.

Breakings News...Aho is a Montreal Canadiens... in 6 days or in 5 years... i'll wait

The Carolina #Hurricanes will have 7 days to match the offer sheet that the Montreal #Canadiens have sent to Sebastian Aho, and if they choose to match, they are restricted from trading him for 1 year
- chelios_24

No poop eh

Yeah.... they're just gonna match. It's a pretty pathetic offer sheet.
- BINGO!

So let’s say instead that the hurricanes decided to play the game and call MB. If they request Suzuki, 1st rounders in 2021 (not protected) and Jonathan Drouin. Would you do it?

Yeah.... they're just gonna match. It's a pretty pathetic offer sheet.
- BINGO!

Not pathetic to the eyes of Aho and his agent

Yeah.... they're just gonna match. It's a pretty pathetic offer sheet.
- BINGO!

Your owner seems to be the pathetic one. Your org is broke as (frank). Maybe your team will match and put themselves in trouble. Because that team is barely making money.

Why are people talking about a trade? The Habs made an offer to a RFA. Either Carolina matches or they don’t. If don’t they match the offer then AHO stays in Carolina and they are not allowed to trade AHO for at least one year. That’s it. There is no trade.
- chelios_24

Is this your first year following the NHL?

THREE options:

1) Match offer sheet
2) Decline to match offer sheet and Carolina gets compensation (2020 1st, 2020 2nd and 2020 3rd)
3) Work out a trade with MONTREAL that has Carolina declining the match, which would be the compensation instead of the 2020 1st, 2020 2nd and 2020 3rd draft picks.

Yes, Carolina is not able to trade Aho to ANYONE else for at least 1 year, but a trade can still be worked out during the 7 days Carolina has.

SEE: Gratton, Chris

I don't think it is a pathetic offer sheet. It is very well done by Bergevin. While the AAV doesn't seem that high since the compensation is only a 1st,2nd and 3rd, the signing bonus structure is probably what bothers Carolina the most.

First of all the 21M in bonus in the next 13 months (11.3 now, 9.87 next july) would probably bother the owners a lot financially. That's a big step from their estimated 6M/year they were offering. Depending on their cash/revenue situation, that alone is hard to swallow.

Next add in the fact that almost all the contract is paid in bonuses makes it so Carolina would have to pay him almost full salary in case of another lockout.

I don't think the word pathetic applies here. If this same offer had been done to a player from the leafs, rangers or any other big market team than yes I would agree. I'm sure the Carolina brass are bothered by it. Will they match? I would expect so but I it is still unsure even if there isn't multiple first round picks involved.

I imagine the Canes are pretty pissed about the offer sheet and will have little interest in talking trade or anything with the Habs at this point.

I don't think it is a pathetic offer sheet. It is very well done by Bergevin. While the AAV doesn't seem that high since the compensation is only a 1st,2nd and 3rd, the signing bonus structure is probably what bothers Carolina the most.

First of all the 21M in bonus in the next 13 months (11.3 now, 9.87 next july) would probably bother the owners a lot financially. That's a big step from their estimated 6M/year they were offering. Depending on their cash/revenue situation, that alone is hard to swallow.

Next add in the fact that almost all the contract is paid in bonuses makes it so Carolina would have to pay him almost full salary in case of another lockout.

I don't think the word pathetic applies here. If this same offer had been done to a player from the leafs, rangers or any other big market team than yes I would agree. I'm sure the Carolina brass are bothered by it. Will they match? I would expect so but I it is still unsure even if there isn't multiple first round picks involved.
- wardancr

The same was said about Shea Weber offer sheet (mostly signing bonus) by the Flyers towards another cash strapped franchise at the time (Nashville)...how did that work out?

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vi...r-42-25m-contract~1719574

Almost 22 millions in one year for Aho which is the revenues they make at the gates in one year.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/habs-present-aho-with-an-offer-sheet-for-five-year-42-25m-contract~1719574

Almost 22 millions in one year for Aho which is the revenues they make at the gates in one year.
- deadpoulet

Now do top golf annual revenue

The same was said about Shea Weber offer sheet (mostly signing bonus) by the Flyers towards another cash strapped franchise at the time (Nashville)...how did that work out?
- Glak18

Like I said, I believe they will match.

How did the Weber contract work out? Well he didn't stay a predator for the rest of his contract for sure.

Either way, I don't see how this ends up badly for the habs. If they don't match (which I would be surprised), they would be thrilled to have Aho for the picks involved. If they do match, Carolina, a wild card competition for the Canadiens, is in a worse salary position.

With all the picks Bergevin has in stock, I would be surprised we don't see more offer sheets for RFA. Event lower offers for only 3rd ou 2nd rounders could be made.

Now do top golf annual revenue
- Tumbleweed

I see what you did there, but do you actually think he would sell shares in TopGolf in order to pay another business? So say he needs 20mil for Aho, he needs to sell 40mil worth of Topgolf shares since he owes taxes.
Then who buys those shares? Those people that want to buy his shares would have all the leverage on the price because he would be in a position of weakness.

The guy is worth 1.1billion, but that in no way means he has 1.1billion of liquid cash.

He's worth 1.1billion because if he sells all assets he owns, it's what they are valued at.

Callaway put in 54million in Topgolf and now could be valued at 600million.

So there's the bulk of what Dubdon is worth. It's an estimate and it's mostly in Topgolf.

He's still a millionaire, but not sure he's having fun throwing 14mil more than he planned to at 1 single player.