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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:56 AM ET
Todd Cordell: Could the New Jersey Devils be the landing spot for Michael Frolik?
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:05 PM ET
For one year, I see no problem.

Also in there: Hall texted Shero "✔️" after the trade.
drew18
New Jersey Devils
Location: Places in the
Joined: 02.27.2015

Jun 26 @ 12:19 PM ET
Do it Ray.
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 26 @ 12:28 PM ET
Always a good read, thanks Todd. I just see it differerently. I would rather have one of the Devs youngsters on that line and use that 4.5 million and more on someone to slot into the left or right side of Hughes.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 26 @ 12:30 PM ET
"Today @ 12:05 PM ET
For one year, I see no problem.

Also in there: Hall texted Shero "✔️" after the trade. "


haha is that true?
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:43 PM ET
Decent players being dumped for salary with cheap returns? Sign me up.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 26 @ 12:45 PM ET
Hughes needs a sniper.

Enter Laine.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:49 PM ET
"Today @ 12:05 PM ET
For one year, I see no problem.

Also in there: Hall texted Shero "✔️" after the trade. "


haha is that true?

- Leniwm1

According to Friedman lol
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 26 @ 12:56 PM ET
Decent players being dumped for salary with cheap returns? Sign me up.
- Pomegrant

Would Frolik push Boqvist or Bratt down? Considering the Devils recently just traded for Hayden?
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:00 PM ET
Would Frolik push Boqvist or Bratt down? Considering the Devils recently just traded for Hayden?
- tomburton99



As it stands right now I'd still put Hall-Hischier-Bratt as the top line, then decide who plays LW with Hughes and Palmieri.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:00 PM ET
Would Frolik push Boqvist or Bratt down? Considering the Devils recently just traded for Hayden?
- tomburton99

Boqvist, probably. Frolik on a 3rd line with Zajac and Coleman would be a nice possession driven line that could have some offensive impact. I think Bratt will likely start in the top six somewhere unless some kind of move for a big winger is done, which I'm not sure is all too likely.
Devilish4
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.21.2019

Jun 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
We really need to set our heights a loy higher. Why give up anything for a third line player unless they are paying us to do so ? Is that all every Devils fan thinks we need and then we are done???? The final piece to this team is a third liner ? Am i the only one that thinks we NEED ANOTHER LEGIT TOP LINE PLAYER?

Going into this off season I could never of imagined the main focus would be landing that perfect. 3Rd liner.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
We really need to set our heights a loy higher. Why give up anything for a third line player unless they are paying us to do so ? Is that all every Devils fan thinks we need and then we are done???? The final piece to this team is a third liner ? Am i the only one that thinks we NEED ANOTHER LEGIT TOP LINE PLAYER?

Going into this off season I could never of imagined the main focus would be landing that perfect. 3Rd liner.

- Devilish4



How much cap you want to take on in a year we just added 9 mil in Subban and its a season before Hall, Nico and Bratt need to be signed?
Devilish4
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.21.2019

Jun 26 @ 1:07 PM ET
Boqvist, probably. Frolik on a 3rd line with Zajac and Coleman would be a nice possession driven line that could have some offensive impact. I think Bratt will likely start in the top six somewhere unless some kind of move for a big winger is done, which I'm not sure is all too likely.
- Pomegrant

Why shouldnt we be looking at better players though? Like an actual upgrade to the top line that isnt a rookie or a player whos dealt with injuries much of his career.

Im not debating wether or not he would be an upgrade on the third line but like I said why they hell is that a priority with the talent level on this roster.

If I had Nico and Hughes down the middle I would be embarrassed that we didnt have better wingers for these 2 instead we are looking for help for Zajac....
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
It's not that the team was lacking top end talent and had good depth players, it's that the team was lacking quality in all facets. The best teams in the league are rolling good lines top to bottom, and we had maybe one acceptable line last year. You can give up your bigger assets to move into bigger players, but if your depth players suck you're still going to lose games come playoffs.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
Why shouldnt we be looking at better players though? Like an actual upgrade to the top line that isnt a rookie or a player whos dealt with injuries much of his career.

Im not debating wether or not he would be an upgrade on the third line but like I said why they hell is that a priority with the talent level on this roster.

If I had Nico and Hughes down the middle I would be embarrassed that we didnt have better wingers for these 2 instead we are looking for help for Zajac....

- Devilish4



I think you need to see how much Hall is going to cost before you add another big salary unless a too good to be true trade falls in Rays lap. Over the next three offseasons need to extend Hall, Blackwood, Butcher, Nico, Brett, Hughes and possibly Vatanen. That's not going to be cheap.
Devilish4
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.21.2019

Jun 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
How much cap you want to take on in a year we just added 9 mil in Subban and its a season before Hall, Nico and Bratt need to be signed?
- smellmyfinger

That literally has nothing to do with what I said there are good players on cash strapped teams making good money.... The list of players you could hypothetically trade for in that same cap hit as frolik that would have a greater potential of playing in the top six is a lot.

Pay an extra mill a year to get a guy that belongs on the top line vs getting a fourth rounder and a good deal on a need we dont even really have to slightly uograde the third lines.
Palms is a good second line winger imo and Hall a good top line winger if we had one more player with a skill level sonewhere in between Hall and Palms that would fill a need much more imo.

When everyone echoed this team needs more talent i figured they meant elite talent and like a lot more of it not a 30 yro Subban a change of scenery project now possibly a third line cap dump?
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Could the New Jersey Devils be the landing spot for Michael Frolik?
- Todd.Cordell

I’d do a 5th round pick
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: How have you not heard of your boy, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
Hughes needs a sniper.

Enter Laine.

- Leniwm1

Not worth what we would have to give up
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
I think you need to see how much Hall is going to cost before you add another big salary unless a too good to be true trade falls in Rays lap. Over the next three offseasons need to extend Hall, Blackwood, Butcher, Nico, Brett, Hughes and possibly Vatanen. That's not going to be cheap.
- smellmyfinger

I think Vatanen becomes expendable, don't you think? If you have Subban and Severson on the right side it doesn't make a ton of sense to have a lot of money tied up in another righty defeseman, especially if Ty Smith is expected to play his off side. Vats might be a good trading chip to a team in need of defense with his reasonable ~4 mil cap hit.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
That literally has nothing to do with what I said there are good players on cash strapped teams making good money.... The list of players you could hypothetically trade for in that same cap hit as frolik that would have a greater potential of playing in the top six is a lot.

Pay an extra mill a year to get a guy that belongs on the top line vs getting a fourth rounder and a good deal on a need we dont even really have to slightly uograde the third lines.
Palms is a good second line winger imo and Hall a good top line winger if we had one more player with a skill level sonewhere in between Hall and Palms that would fill a need much more imo.

When everyone echoed this team needs more talent i figured they meant elite talent and like a lot more of it not a 30 yro Subban a change of scenery project now possibly a third line cap dump?

- Devilish4


We went from bottom dwellers to almost must win, with Hall at 28, PK 30, Cory... We def need a elite winger to take advantage of this blessed situation we find ourselves in. Why waste PK's and Hall's best years. Its time to not only make the playoffs, but make some noise in there!
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
That literally has nothing to do with what I said there are good players on cash strapped teams making good money.... The list of players you could hypothetically trade for in that same cap hit as frolik that would have a greater potential of playing in the top six is a lot.

Pay an extra mill a year to get a guy that belongs on the top line vs getting a fourth rounder and a good deal on a need we dont even really have to slightly uograde the third lines.
Palms is a good second line winger imo and Hall a good top line winger if we had one more player with a skill level sonewhere in between Hall and Palms that would fill a need much more imo.

When everyone echoed this team needs more talent i figured they meant elite talent and like a lot more of it not a 30 yro Subban a change of scenery project now possibly a third line cap dump?

- Devilish4


If you're looking for a high end wing making approximately 4.3 a year, you are going to have to pay up. What are you willing to give up?
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
Not worth what we would have to give up
- shvingter88


No way...
2 1sts and Bratt.

Laine will get you 40-50 goals every year, especially with Hughes.

If Laine isnt that good, in Winn. eyes, then he can be had for less.
Devilish4
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.21.2019

Jun 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
I think you need to see how much Hall is going to cost before you add another big salary unless a too good to be true trade falls in Rays lap. Over the next three offseasons need to extend Hall, Blackwood, Butcher, Nico, Brett, Hughes and possibly Vatanen. That's not going to be cheap.
- smellmyfinger

I guess if you look at it that way or you can hope we move some of these guys like vats and a pick for a decent player on a good deal so we dontnhave to worry about over paying a bunch of mediocre players.

Like on most elite teams palms would be considered adding scoring depth yet he is a lock for the top 6 not just the 6th guy in that top 6 but basically the number 2.

I personally would be aiming for a guy to push Palms down there is youre depth why are we looking outside for depth when we should be lookong for more skill to push the guys down we have and yes even our good players.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
I think Vatanen becomes expendable, don't you think? If you have Subban and Severson on the right side it doesn't make a ton of sense to have a lot of money tied up in another righty defeseman, especially if Ty Smith is expected to play his off side. Vats might be a good trading chip to a team in need of defense with his reasonable ~4 mil cap hit.
- Pomegrant



I agree he probably is expendable, and Carrick looked useful in a limited role last year. I just cringe at what our defense has looked like the last few years, and being able to roll out Subban, Severson and Vatanen all on different pairings is a nice luxury for once.
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