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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:30 AM ET
Todd Cordell: The New Jersey Devils missed the boat on Jacob Trouba
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 18 @ 10:33 AM ET
34 and Butcher vs 20 and Pionk is extremely debatable. Does 34 and Butcher even get you to 20? Probably close but not much more than that.
ryant601
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 03.02.2018

Jun 18 @ 10:35 AM ET
It sounds like Jets fans are glad to be rid of the headache he appears to be, but I agree that the offer they accepted could have easily been surpassed...little bummed, but Shero needs to make a splash with defense *cough* Subban *cough*
mcjags
New Jersey Devils
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 06.12.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:38 AM ET
The issue is Butcher is a LHD and the Jets wanted a RHD in return. Yes Winnipeg fans are glad to be rid of the headache that is Trouba but most are upset with the return.

I would have thought there were better options than Pionk, DeAngelo would have made more sense but I would assume that Chevy at least tried for him. I think the hockey world as a whole is shocked at the return.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 18 @ 10:39 AM ET
Newarks hospitals are just as good as NYC. Complete garbage he didn't go to Devils
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:43 AM ET
34 and Butcher vs 20 and Pionk is extremely debatable. Does 34 and Butcher even get you to 20? Probably close but not much more than that.
- nyrangers9479


Butcher is miles better than Pionk. I also said another 2nd rounder could have easily been added.
ChipArm
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 01.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 10:48 AM ET
What are the Devils doing, except patting themselves on the back for "winning lottery".

Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 18 @ 10:56 AM ET
What are the Devils doing, except patting themselves on the back for "winning lottery".
- ChipArm


The same as every offseason. They’re doing Richard.

Fire up another marketing plan and keep the payroll low.

PK Subban is a quality player, a great philanthropist and could be a great role model in Newark. This team should be all over that. Even the remaining term is unlikely to be a cap problem and he’s a traceable asset.

Make a move ray ray. Because if Taylor Hall walks because we are the same crapwagib as last year we are in poopsville.
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:00 AM ET
per Dreger "Trouba made it abundantly clear there were only specific teams he would go to, Trouba's list wasn't 10 teams long or even 5 teams long, believes it was 1 or 2 teams"
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 18 @ 11:02 AM ET
per Dreger "Trouba made it abundantly clear there were only specific teams he would go to, Trouba's list wasn't 10 teams long or even 5 teams long, believes it was 1 or 2 teams"
- Senor_Elias


Sounds like a douche bag. Perfect Ranger.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 18 @ 11:02 AM ET
Im glad we didnt get him. This will force Shero to pull off a trade for "unmentioned" available players, contracted players and such. There is more to choose from and he might have to pony up more but hopefully we'd get better quality than Trouba. The FA D are not impressive now that EK is gone.

Also to the draft, people mention having a center is better, thus Hughes. BUT, Kakko can play center too. What if Kakko was drafted to be our centerman. It'll be like having Forsberg.

Does this change the conversation?
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 18 @ 11:06 AM ET
Im glad we didnt get him. This will force Shero to pull off a trade for "unmentioned" available players, contracted players and such. There is more to choose from and he might have to pony up more but hopefully we'd get better quality than Trouba. The FA D are not impressive now that EK is gone.

Also to the draft, people mention having a center is better, thus Hughes. BUT, Kakko can play center too. What if Kakko was drafted to be our centerman. It'll be like having Forsberg.

Does this change the conversation?

- Leniwm1


We will find out Friday but I think it’s a jump to think this kid will be Forsberg.

We’ll see what happens but I think you can’t lose with Hughes and Kappo is crappo.

I’m going to the Devils draft party. Gonna have fun explaining why I’m not buying season tickets because the team hasn’t done poop.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 18 @ 11:09 AM ET
We will find out Friday but I think it’s a jump to think this kid will be Forsberg.

We’ll see what happens but I think you can’t lose with Hughes and Kappo is crappo.

I’m going to the Devils draft party. Gonna have fun explaining why I’m not buying season tickets because the team hasn’t done poop.

- Queenie_5_hole


Because the team sucks did they drop $$ for tickets?
rmccart
Joined: 03.08.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:14 AM ET
Where and when is the draft party ?
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:18 AM ET
Im glad we didnt get him. This will force Shero to pull off a trade for "unmentioned" available players, contracted players and such. There is more to choose from and he might have to pony up more but hopefully we'd get better quality than Trouba. The FA D are not impressive now that EK is gone.

Also to the draft, people mention having a center is better, thus Hughes. BUT, Kakko can play center too. What if Kakko was drafted to be our centerman. It'll be like having Forsberg.

Does this change the conversation?


Kakko is not Forsberg. He's good like Rantanen or Laine, but not prodigally good like Jagr or Forsberg.

On other things:

Dreger is a pretty credible source. The consequences often betray the kinks in the process. These are professional GMs. I think them trying to retain Myers and Trouba's difficulty were the two kinks in this deal that made the return seem low. In the end, Trouba was a 9th overall pick and they got a 20th overall pick out of him in a way deeper draft (2012's draft was awful).
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
Because the team sucks did they drop $$ for tickets?
- Leniwm1


I don't have complete price information yet, but (frank) no.

I told my account rep that I'd show them the money when Apollo group spends some of their cash they're pocketing on the stadium. Until ownership shows they give a crap (and I'm not talking about their lip service because they're smart guys and will say the right thing) I assume they don't give a crap.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
Where and when is the draft party ?
- rmccart


Same time as the draft (Friday night at Prudential) but you need tickets. I was offered them via my account rep, but if you call up the sales office and tell them you're interested they might set you up.
thechezman
New Jersey Devils
Location: 9083103373, NJ
Joined: 04.24.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
no
thechezman
New Jersey Devils
Location: 9083103373, NJ
Joined: 04.24.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
NO you draft Hughes over KAKKo every time...


Missed out on TROUBA ..

If you really think NJD are getting SUBBAN you are mistaken he is not coming here.
neither is PANAKIN , Nyquist , Eberle ( done ) .

Ill be shocked if we get any UFA ( not Sheros way )
And the trades and salary we did pick up we trade away....
MOJO , Lovejoy , PJ ,

I unfortunately think this makes HALL walk.....





Butcher and 34 is not a better offer than Poink and 20 in a strong draft class. sorry.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
no
- thechezman


That's what she said!


Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jun 18 @ 11:32 AM ET
NO you draft Hughes over KAKKo every time...
- thechezman


How often do you think these guys are getting drafted?
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jun 18 @ 11:38 AM ET
Trouba wouldn't have made the Devils instant contenders, and they were only guaranteed one year. It would have been idiotic to make that trade since they'd be in a worse position next offseason and all Trouba would get them is a slightly lower draft pick.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jun 18 @ 11:41 AM ET
per Dreger "Trouba made it abundantly clear there were only specific teams he would go to, Trouba's list wasn't 10 teams long or even 5 teams long, believes it was 1 or 2 teams"
- Senor_Elias


He doesn't have a say in who he plays for until next summer.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:47 AM ET
NO you draft Hughes over KAKKo every time...


Missed out on TROUBA ..

If you really think NJD are getting SUBBAN you are mistaken he is not coming here.
neither is PANAKIN , Nyquist , Eberle ( done ) .

Ill be shocked if we get any UFA ( not Sheros way )
And the trades and salary we did pick up we trade away....
MOJO , Lovejoy , PJ ,

I unfortunately think this makes HALL walk.....





Butcher and 34 is not a better offer than Poink and 20 in a strong draft class. sorry.

- thechezman


... I'm thinking of a word that starts with d and has six letters
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jun 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
He doesn't have a say in who he plays for until next summer.
- Hunkulese


If I'm a GM, I'm not trading for a headache unless he really makes it worth my while. Trouba apparently didn't make it worth their while.
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