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joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 15 @ 2:51 PM ET
There's no better lube than the tears of your opponent


- MaximumBone


I can see you needed the win, so if it got you off the bridge, I've done a good thing here.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 4:32 PM ET
I can see you needed the win, so if it got you off the bridge, I've done a good thing here.
- joel878

Not everyone is as 'depressed' as you Though you wouldn't think it if you believed what the social sciences try to tell ya.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 15 @ 6:07 PM ET
Phanuef bought out. Say hello to your new sixth dman.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 6:16 PM ET
Phanuef bought out. Say hello to your new sixth dman.
- RafiDRW


Don’t make me (frank) you with an ice auger, babe.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 6:17 PM ET
I get back from work and it looks like some female genitalia wants "research" and "credibility"? Well, allow me to show you the research I did prior to making that post.

Yes, his difficult year was when he played on the top pairing with Rielly and spent 43.5% of his total minutes (source #1) playing against the opposition's best players. The season he "excelled" to the tune of -10.91% team relative goal share, -6.13% team relative HD chance share and minuses in pretty much every other team relative stat (source #2). While Gardiner played merely 28.9% of his time against the best, Zaitsev and Rielly played the hard minutes and their results suffered because of it

A defensive role only in that he had to cover for Gardiner's offensive sorties. In doing that, he started seeing weaker competition (see source #1, 2017-18) and saw his numbers take a bit of a jump, but it didn't last. The following year under much the same conditions, his results took a substantial dip as his poor play dragged down the results of literally every Dman he partnered with:

Partner/GF% Together/Zaitsev GF% Away/Partner GF% Away/Diff.

Gardiner/ 50.9%/ 33.3%/ 61.5%/ -28.2%
Muzzin/ 50%/ 43.5%/ 70.4%/ -26.9%
Dermott/ 44.4%/ 50%/ 52.2%/ -2.2%
Hainsey/ 36.4%/ 50%/ 58.2%/ -8.2%
(he saw 39 mins of 5-on-5 time w/ Rielly)

But those are some small sample sizes that- as such an evidence-based and credible man such as yourself must know- needed to be compared to a larger one. So here's his results with those same players over his whole career:

Gardiner/ 51.6%/ 43.3%/ 65.8%/ -22.5%
Rielly/ 40.2%/ 50.2%/ 55.8%/ -5.6
Muzzin/ 50%/ 43.5%/ 70.4%/ -26.9%
Dermott/ 44.4%/ 50%/ 52.2%/ -2.2%
Hainsey/ 48%/ 50%/ 56%/ -6%

Keeping in mind that Maple Leafs were running a 54.1% GF during this stretch of 3 seasons. Turns out the evidence supported my initial findings- the one's you seem intent on decrying as "not researched" and "non-credible". I'd go into more nuanced numbers that would show more precise measures of what he's good at and what's leading to his failures, but I feel no inclination to waste such on you.

And here's the fundamental part that you're not understanding: he'd be playing the same role here. He'd be paired on the 2nd pairing, playing secondary opposition and having to cover for an offensive LD with a tendency to over-extend at times (Nurse). If he's not suited to play the role in Toronto, he's not suited to our 2nd pair.

Good, keep your trash. As we've established, we want nothing to do with him and his propensity for being a significant drag on all his D partners. At least Russell's contract will be over in 2 years.

Then go ahead and take all those other means of freeing up cap space because Zaitsev is precisely what we want to avoid: bad, overplayed and overpaid.

Congratulations on showing your overwhelming conceit and allowing me the opportunity to lay out why Zaitsev would be among the worst possible acquisitions any team could make. I already gave away 1st prize a few years ago, but here's your participation award:



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Source #1: http://www.puckiq.com/players/8479458
Source #2: http://www.naturalstattri...te=r&v=p&playerid=8479458

- MaximumBone


Oh mah (frank)ing gawd...
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 15 @ 6:44 PM ET
Don’t make me (frank) you with an ice auger, babe.
- Wildschwein

Where the (frank) have you been, bítch?
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 15 @ 6:44 PM ET
Oh mah (frank)ing gawd...
- Wildschwein

Epic, wasn’t it?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 6:57 PM ET
Where the (frank) have you been, bítch?
- RafiDRW


Working. A lot.

So what’d I miss in Oiler land?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 6:58 PM ET
Epic, wasn’t it?
- RafiDRW


Educational, amusing and insulting. A trifecta of triumph as only Brother Bone can produce.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 15 @ 6:59 PM ET
Working. A lot.

So what’d I miss in Oiler land?

- Wildschwein

Perry, Eriksson, and Abdelkader rumors. Outside of that, Reveen not picking Connor McMichael and me following everyone on Twitter.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 15 @ 7:01 PM ET
Educational, amusing and insulting. A trifecta of triumph as only Brother Bone can produce.
- Wildschwein

He does what Iggy tries to do. Just did it the right way.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 7:04 PM ET
Perry, Eriksson, and Abdelkader rumors. Outside of that, Reveen not picking Connor McMichael and me following everyone on Twitter.
- RafiDRW


Ick, Icky and Icky... er?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 7:07 PM ET
He does what Iggy tries to do. Just did it the right way.
- RafiDRW


Yeah... Iggy could be educational, but only if you somehow managed to successfully suffer through the verbal tirades of your intelligence and/or questionable parentage.

I miss him.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 15 @ 8:48 PM ET
Ick, Icky and Icky... er?
- Wildschwein

Reveen is in charge of the Oilers first round pick in the Islanders mock draft I think.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 15 @ 8:48 PM ET
Yeah... Iggy could be educational, but only if you somehow managed to successfully suffer through the verbal tirades of your intelligence and/or questionable parentage.

I miss him.

- Wildschwein

Me too. Wonder if he re-emerges this year. His ban should be up.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 9:22 PM ET
Me too. Wonder if he re-emerges this year. His ban should be up.
- RafiDRW


I would welcome him with open arms.

Then probably have to tell him to get (frank)ed within the hour.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 15 @ 10:07 PM ET
I would welcome him with open arms.

Then probably have to tell him to get (frank)ed within the hour.

- Wildschwein

Yep. Figure Jero is permagone. I think one of his alts is open as of last month.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Jun 16 @ 3:51 PM ET
Phanuef bought out. Say hello to your new sixth dman.
- RafiDRW


EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Jun 16 @ 3:52 PM ET
Don’t make me (frank) you with an ice auger, babe.
- Wildschwein


The Schwein is back!

It has been a while since I've seen you around here.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jun 16 @ 4:53 PM ET
The Schwein is back!

It has been a while since I've seen you around here.

- EdmHockeyMan


Should be back for a bit. Depends on how work goes.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 17 @ 7:43 AM ET
Should be back for a bit. Depends on how work goes.
- Wildschwein

Quit work. Become the next Iggy.
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