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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 14 @ 10:44 PM ET
Yep, a for sure huge offer to Panarin. Backed up by a trade for a d man or two. Cap space and a Jimbo with a job on the line, it seems inevitable to me.
- Supirium99

Why is his job on the line again?
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 14 @ 10:47 PM ET
Yep, a for sure huge offer to Panarin. Backed up by a trade for a d man or two. Cap space and a Jimbo with a job on the line, it seems inevitable to me.
- Supirium99

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 14 @ 11:04 PM ET
Why is his job on the line again?
- neem55

Because he's starting his 6th season with the club and the only time they've made the playoffs is with a club he largely inherited.

So if he can't either make the playoffs or deliver more stud prospects than he's a likely casualty.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 14 @ 11:44 PM ET

- VANTEL

You guys make me sick 🤢🤮
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:12 AM ET
Because he's starting his 6th season with the club and the only time they've made the playoffs is with a club he largely inherited.

So if he can't either make the playoffs or deliver more stud prospects than he's a likely casualty.

- golfingsince

His job was/is to replace the old core, seems to be doing pretty well at it. He only really started when aquaman finally caved on the retool. Sutter and LE are both retool moves, but since he’s actually made some decent moves. Just my opinion, i know thinking JB is competent and getting better is unpopular on here but idgf
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 15 @ 12:16 AM ET
He'll be gone if he screws it up, which he might. All I know is if he makes this a cap team and doesn't make the playoffs he's going to get fired.
- golfingsince


Unlike four of the other five years where he was in charge, they spent to the cap, and didn’t make the playoffs?

Edit, I guess it’s only 3 of five, because they did make the playoffs in year 1.

#millertime
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 15 @ 12:21 AM ET
You guys make me sick 🤢🤮
- CanuckDon

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 15 @ 12:31 AM ET
His job was/is to replace the old core, seems to be doing pretty well at it. He only really started when aquaman finally caved on the retool. Sutter and LE are both retool moves, but since he’s actually made some decent moves. Just my opinion, i know thinking JB is competent and getting better is unpopular on here but idgf
- neem55

If that was the case don't you think he would have a contract extension by now?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:43 AM ET
Why are you so desperate for attention with this basketball thing? I’m not a basketball fan, I’ve never watched a game in my life, however, good for the Raptors and their fans. Winning championships is hard to do. But this is the Canucks thread, head over to the Leafs thread if you wanna lick their balls, we’ll be discussing Canucks related material here lol.
- Pacificgem

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:49 AM ET
Stetcher is a good 2nd pairing guy, not worth tossing away.
- Retinalz

#5at best, but he is getting better.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 15 @ 1:02 AM ET



Is there nothing sweeter than this image
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 15 @ 1:05 AM ET
#5at best, but he is getting better.
- Makita

Mackey...how would you rate the Canucks D?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 15 @ 1:25 AM ET
Mackey...how would you rate the Canucks D?
- CanuckDon

About one of the worst in the league, if all of the defense are healthy then in the middle of the pack.

The problem is with both Tanev and Edler gone for more than half a season Green has to overplay Gudbranson, Stecher, Hutton and for a large portion of last year Pouliot. The Canucks “D” depth is not good enough to rely on when their two best go down.

I thought Schenn was a pleasant surprise but he was used sparingly, the way I thought Stecher and the others should be used. I would like to see Schenn return again to see if he could be the stay at home physical presence needed.

I know most here like Stecher and Hutton for their offensive rushes but man those two get burned so many times pinching in and as a last line of defense it pisses me off..


Edit: I would keep Stecher around and like to see him play 15-18 mins a night, then he could be discussed as a #4, he wouldn’t be pressured to be relied on to do something he doesn’t have the skill set to do.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 15 @ 1:30 AM ET
About one of the worst in the league, if all of the defense are healthy then in the middle of the pack.

The problem is with both Tanev and Edler gone for more than half a season Green has to overplay Gudbranson, Stecher, Hutton and for a large portion of last year Pouliot. The Canucks “D” depth is not good enough to rely on when their two best go down.

I thought Schenn was a pleasant surprise but he was used sparingly, the way I thought Stecher and the others should be used. I would like to see Schenn return again to see if he could be the stay at home physical presence needed.

I know most here like Stecher and Hutton for their offensive rushes but man those two get burned so many times pinching in and as a last line of defense it pisses me off..

- Makita

Good answer and I agree. But I meant rank the D in order. Top to bottom
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 15 @ 1:36 AM ET
Good answer and I agree. But I meant rank the D in order. Top to bottom
- CanuckDon

Tough to do Don, Gudbranson is gone, Pouliot is gone, Edler is a ufa, so that leaves Tanev, Stecher, Biega, Hutton, so by this list Stecher is a 5 dressed up as a two
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 15 @ 1:36 AM ET
His job was/is to replace the old core, seems to be doing pretty well at it. He only really started when aquaman finally caved on the retool. Sutter and LE are both retool moves, but since he’s actually made some decent moves. Just my opinion, i know thinking JB is competent and getting better is unpopular on here but idgf
- neem55


You can sugar coat it all you want but he’s right ...he’s been in Van a while now ...and if they have a bad year next he could be gone
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 15 @ 1:40 AM ET
His job was/is to replace the old core, seems to be doing pretty well at it. He only really started when aquaman finally caved on the retool. Sutter and LE are both retool moves, but since he’s actually made some decent moves. Just my opinion, i know thinking JB is competent and getting better is unpopular on here but idgf
- neem55


He's on the hot seat man


how many GM's with a decent leash and high trust from ownership go into the draft and free agency with only 1 year left on their contracts?

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 15 @ 1:41 AM ET

- Makita


considering some of the other topics that get discussed in here, I don't understand the anger over the NBA finals being discussed a bit.


I get that some of you hate Toronto with a passion, but considering the viewership ratings and the amount of packed viewing parties from coast to coast, it's safe to say that this was more than a Toronto thing. The Raptor players, coaches, management themselves even mentioned Canada more than Toronto in their interviews last night.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 15 @ 2:01 AM ET
He's on the hot seat man


how many GM's with a decent leash and high trust from ownership go into the draft and free agency with only 1 year left on their contracts?

- Nucker101

It's a "show me something or this is your final lap" or the leash may soon look like this:

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 15 @ 2:33 AM ET
Tough to do Don, Gudbranson is gone, Pouliot is gone, Edler is a ufa, so that leaves Tanev, Stecher, Biega, Hutton, so by this list Stecher is a 5 dressed up as a two
- Makita

Stecher is our best dman (proven) under contract. I know it’s gross Mackey but that’s our sad reality as Canuck fans
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 15 @ 2:46 AM ET
considering some of the other topics that get discussed in here, I don't understand the anger over the NBA finals being discussed a bit.


I get that some of you hate Toronto with a passion, but considering the viewership ratings and the amount of packed viewing parties from coast to coast, it's safe to say that this was more than a Toronto thing. The Raptor players, coaches, management themselves even mentioned Canada more than Toronto in their interviews last night.

- Nucker101

I didn't watch a second of it and I have no problem with it being discussed.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 15 @ 2:47 AM ET
I didn't watch a second of it and I have no problem with it being discussed.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 15 @ 2:52 AM ET
Stecher is our best dman (proven) under contract. I know it’s gross Mackey but that’s our sad reality as Canuck fans
- CanuckDon

I’ll take Hughes
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 15 @ 3:17 AM ET
I’ll take Hughes
- Nighthawk

Read my message
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 15 @ 4:38 AM ET
#5at best, but he is getting better.
- Makita

Maki he played 4 all year and did very well. You’re hate is documented, but not too warranted given how he has actually performed.
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