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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jun 12 @ 2:35 PM ET
Carol Schram: The Vancouver Canucks can still learn lessons from the "Boston Model" With their shared history in the 2011 Stanley Cup Final and some other mutual DNA, the Boston Model still remains a blueprint for the Vancouver Canucks.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: "I don’t have your don cherry style bigotry" Penticton
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 2:44 PM ET
"Boston Model" They're in the SCF, but still getting man handled by some big STL D.

The game changes in the playoffs. JB's right he needs some more size and grit.

We have Roussel and Zack MacEwen in Utica, not enough. Protect the skill guys.
Itsjustarash
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 08.29.2013

Jun 12 @ 2:44 PM ET
Go Blues Go
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
Ty Carol
VANTEL
Vancouver Canucks
Location: 2019 Weak Draft
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:53 PM ET
Boston St.L Pitts Mtl Cgy Chi SJ are good examples that you just don't need to only draft and develop.

I think with no more hand tying NMC Benning has a lot more wiggle room.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 2:59 PM ET
"Boston Model" They're in the SCF, but still getting man handled by some big STL D.

The game changes in the playoffs. JB's right he needs some more size and grit.

We have Roussel and Zack MacEwen in Utica, not enough. Protect the skill guys.

- VanHockeyGuy

Sorry bro that is too simplistic.
The need is CHARACTER as deep as it can go. Skill sets or certain skills is only one part that makes a player. The shear will of players will always take a team farther. Passengers hold a team back if leaders don’t find ways to bring them into the tram fold & fully buy in. I’ll cite the ‘82 Canucks as a team of will that most ppl said was a lucky run. I don’t buy into luck i look into what happened & saw a team that played together from the coaching staff down to the last man on the bench.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: "I don’t have your don cherry style bigotry" Penticton
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:01 PM ET
Sorry bro that is too simplistic.
The need is CHARACTER as deep as it can go. Skill sets or certain skills is only one part that makes a player. The shear will of players will always take a team farther. Passengers hold a team back if leaders don’t find ways to bring them into the tram fold & fully buy in. I’ll cite the ‘82 Canucks as a team of will that most ppl said was a lucky run. I don’t buy into luck i look into what happened & saw a team that played together from the coaching staff down to the last man on the bench.

- Nighthawk


Of course, to me those go hand in hand, but you're right.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: "I don’t have your don cherry style bigotry" Penticton
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:03 PM ET
Boston St.L Pitts Mtl Cgy Chi SJ are good examples that you just don't need to only draft and develop.

I think with no more hand tying NMC Benning has a lot more wiggle room.

- VANTEL


Zucker, Panarin = Playoffs!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 3:05 PM ET
When the JB’s seek out prospects & want character & hockey IQ those traits tend to go hand in hand. It’s too easy to stare at stats but very hard to find true winners driven to win. EP & Bo are 2 examples. Tanev like him or not it’s undeniable. There is a long long list of players that were not superstar stats players who led teams to their highest level. Then again there are many superstars that don’t rest & work on every aspect of their game continuously.
VANTEL
Vancouver Canucks
Location: 2019 Weak Draft
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:07 PM ET
Zucker, Panarin = Playoffs!
- VanHockeyGuy



The entertainment factor alone is worth it . I am so tired of them trying to fit Baertschi Jake Leivo Loui in there and trying to pass them off as top 6 players.
VANTEL
Vancouver Canucks
Location: 2019 Weak Draft
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:09 PM ET
When the JB’s seek out prospects & want character & hockey IQ those traits tend to go hand in hand. It’s too easy to stare at stats but very hard to find true winners driven to win. EP & Bo are 2 examples. Tanev like him or not it’s undeniable. There is a long long list of players that were not superstar stats players who led teams to their highest level. Then again there are many superstars that don’t rest & work on every aspect of their game continuously.
- Nighthawk


Give me a Debrusk over Ehlers or Nylander any day and I promise I won't ask what his hockey IQ is or what his favorite movie or color is.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
Of course, to me those go hand in hand, but you're right.
- VanHockeyGuy

I wasn’t knockin you btw lol
In my team sports days i’ve been very fortunate to have played with some awesome ppl that would not look like winners on the surface to most ppl. My best best example is a 70yr old pitcher who led us to a Provincial gold medal. Harry Lavalee. He was even on TSN once Pratt saw him play for us in a tourney in North Van. When Harry 1st joined us & at our 1st game the other team was chuckling when he took the mound. 7-0 shutout 2 hitter later they were not laughing. That’s my reason why stats are only stats & there is no stat that quantifies a winner.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 3:12 PM ET
The entertainment factor alone is worth it . I am so tired of them trying to fit Baertschi Jake Leivo Loui in there and trying to pass them off as top 6 players.
- VANTEL

My line-ups bleed when i need to put them in cuz of no choice lol
VanHockeyGuy
Location: "I don’t have your don cherry style bigotry" Penticton
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:14 PM ET
My line-ups bleed when i need to put them in cuz of no choice lol
- Nighthawk


Pearson may turn out okay.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 3:14 PM ET
Give me a Debrusk over Ehlers or Nylander any day and I promise I won't ask what his hockey IQ is or what his favorite movie or color is.
- VANTEL

Teams need warriors to make it thru the grind to get to the top.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 3:16 PM ET
Pearson may turn out okay.
- VanHockeyGuy

No probs with Pearson he earned his career & will continue so.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 3:17 PM ET
Don’t be surprised if we take Krebs. The guy oozes character & leadership.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM ET
Some here like the term ALPHA.
What is that exactly?
I’ll give some of my examples...
Forsberg
Crosby
Gainey
Bergeron
Billy Smith

There are many more of course & not all need to be superstars or HOFers.
thundachunk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: We're on the right path
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM ET
Dach
optimus-reim
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jun 12 @ 3:24 PM ET
Sorry bro that is too simplistic.
The need is CHARACTER as deep as it can go. Skill sets or certain skills is only one part that makes a player. The shear will of players will always take a team farther. Passengers hold a team back if leaders don’t find ways to bring them into the tram fold & fully buy in. I’ll cite the ‘82 Canucks as a team of will that most ppl said was a lucky run. I don’t buy into luck i look into what happened & saw a team that played together from the coaching staff down to the last man on the bench.

- Nighthawk




Man, you should become a Leafs fan. We need more of you in the fold.
VANTEL
Vancouver Canucks
Location: 2019 Weak Draft
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:24 PM ET
Dach
- thundachunk



Did you read the CanuckWay article on him? They are usually out to lunch on their articles but they did good on this one.


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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 3:25 PM ET
Did you read the CanuckWay article on him? They are usually out to lunch on their articles but they did good on this one.
- VANTEL

The gist pls? Thx
VANTEL
Vancouver Canucks
Location: 2019 Weak Draft
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:27 PM ET
The gist pls? Thx
- Nighthawk


Hibernation and Skating problems
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 3:28 PM ET
Kawhi Leonard for me is the epitome of a recent player to transcend a team with them taking on his persona. It’s so very rare a player like him comes along. The term generational player is nothing when compared to a player like him. Orr was not generational he was more than that.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 12 @ 3:31 PM ET
Hibernation and Skating problems
- VANTEL

Ok. I don’t like the sounds of hibernation. Tells me his motor isn’t always running to be the best he can be & not stop improving.
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